What's your opinion of the Anglosphere?

What's your opinion of the Anglosphere?

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Friendship with other Anglos has ended
Now Mexico is my best friend.

I don't think about it at all.

Anglos suck so much dick, you have to be gay if you are one.

You can have ours if you like them so much.

>no Éire

Opinions on the Francosphere?

We will straight up trade you California for Alberta if you want Mexicans.

Niggersphere*
ftfy

I said Mexicans, not chicanos. Ameripig scum.

They're easier to herd around, while the British have been overpowered by their own kin, the USA.
More of a USAsphere than it is an Anglosphere nowadays.

Kind of sad t b h

Should have given away the Louisiana purchase for pennies

Anglo society is riddled with progressivism. Most of those posting under the US flag on Sup Forums, are self-hating whites and millennial progressives of the following type:

youtube.com/watch?v=q2R2btO4MEo

They are on the path to destruction

Shouldnt*

you live in an anglo society

>youtube.com/watch?v=q2R2btO4MEo

Hahahaha that autistic screeching

It's a stupid meme conjured up in the last few years to tie together the remnants of the empire

No more colonies to exploit, so reactionaries like to lump together the "Anglosphere" out of a recognition that capitalism has moved on

Tejanos > Mexicans

Too true, but we weren't as eager to flee our own homeland as the English were, knowing that it's dandily fancy around here, so we'd never have been able to populate it.

Shut the fuck up, faggot

>Tejanos

I have no Idea what that means

>reactionaries

Take your ass back to /leftypol/ with your buzzwords

Now that's just a ridiculous amount of self-hating nonsense. There's something to be said about the fact that the English colonies of the US, Canada, and Australia are all better than any single colony of any other country.

You can also throw Hong Kong and Singapore in there as well. The Brits knew how to colonize.

Triggered.

Hispanics that have always lived in Texas for centuries and actually the helped the American settlers fight for Texas independence.

Honestly, I'm just messing with you. Selling it was the right move because we would have taken it by force eventually anyway, and you desparately needed the money to fight wars in Europe.

>LOL U MAD

Good one.

>He says in English as he posts on a website founded by an American

And exploit the world and workers at home, sure.

The death of the empire was long overdue.

Cherry picking the colonies that succeeded is a bit dishonest. The Anglosphere also includes less successful places such as Guyana and Nigeria.

Best countries in the world.

You would had taken it by force anyway.

Even 1 lasting colonial success is still more than literally every other colonial power, and Britain has a bunch.

kek go back to /leftypol/. Had the British not exploited either of those and kick started Industrialization in the Industrial revolution we'd be pretty much stuck at the equivalent technological, economic, social, and cultural level of the 1820's or thereabouts. Science would only have improved sporadically, and no field would be as far along as it is today. Everything would still be custom-made by skilled craftmen; that is, the entire economy would all be "bespoke". All the gains from automation would be lost, and pretty much all power generation would be limited to localized engines. Exploitation of the 3rd world and turning your own children in phossey jawed deformities in factories helped cause one of the most important events in human history and we'd be nothing without it.

Yeah, I said as much here

The eternal anglo must be destroyed. China sides with Germany and France to destroy the perfidious anglo.

>By far the best part of China is a former British territory (Hong Kong)

El oh el

No, the best part is Shanghai, which was built by the French.

The scientific advancements of the industrial revolution were driven by scientists and engineers, not impoverished workers doing menial work for commercial companies.

african colonies were all started in the late 1800's to early 1900's, its dishonest to compare them to the australian and american colonies started 100 years earlier

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_administrative_divisions_of_Greater_China_by_Human_Development_Index

Sorry but you're wrong

What a fucking child.

>USA
>anglo
I thought you are Spanish?

Many of them have English (or a variant of it) as an official language though, which makes them part of the Angloshpere.

That doesn't justify what was done. Capitalism may be a necessary stage in societal development but those "advancements" were built upon the misery of the masses. No reason we couldn't have progressed technologically or economically under a different system. If we'd be nothing without the crimes of the empire, so be it.

I'm very surprised that both UK and USA, the creators of the modern world, are becoming introvert nations because they perceive the world order themselves have created as unfair for them.

People have been speaking for a long time about how USA would cease to be the world's first superpower during the XXI century; what I didn't expect is that the beginning of the fall would be started by USA. But hey, I'm happy, I have bitching about USA for years so it would be hypocritical for me not to welcome Trump and enjoy the change he is going to bring to the world order.

How did you even come to that conclusion? What a cop out. The agricultural sector of the British economy had been steadily growing during the 18th century. Agricultural stability allowed the British population to increase. You needed bodies for the machine, It took your whole country to industrialize. The idea of Industrialization was kicking around for a long time but nobody would commit to it because they never had the prerequisites. Only Britain could do it because of the stability that those on the continent didn't have and your surplus of iron and coal. Your wealth from plundering the outside world helped exacerbate the process and you needed this wealth to complete this feat. Do you really want me to list the probabilities of where we would be right now with you kicking off the industrial revolution?

best architecture and cultury, i dream about imigrate to US or Canada but thats hard af, you must learn good profession and have some experience

>That doesn't justify what was done. Capitalism may be a necessary stage in societal development but those "advancements" were built upon the misery of the masses.

life would be significantly worse for the majority of the planet. Some probabilities:

>The agricultural revolution would not exist; about 50% of the world's population would still be involved in agriculture. Due to the labor-intensiveness of agriculture, and the radically lower food output, global population would likely be little more than 1 Billion.
>Large-scale warfare would be significantly less common, and significantly less destructive, though no less deadly. We'd still be fighting with muzzle-loading muskets and cannon, as anything more advanced requires the I.R. to happen.
>Metalurgy would be primitive, pretty much frozen at wrought iron and very basic steels. No aluminum, let alone the more interesting alloys. Ceramics would likely not have processed either. Plastics would be unknown.
>Electronics would not exist, let alone digital circuits, microprocessors, etc.
Power would be from piston engines, either steam or oil-fired. Electric generators and motors would not exist.
>Medicine would probably plateau somewhere around 1950s-level or so.
>Transportation would be horse-drawn. Railroads would probably not exist. Certainly not the compact internal combustion engine - so no motor vehicles. Steam-powered vessels would probably exist, but be far more expensive and rare than sail-driven ones. Steam turbines would not exist.
>Communications systems would remain extraordinarily slow (being horse or ship-powered); no telegraph, no telephone, television, or radio. They also would be solely the province of the powerful.
>Wealth distribution would have remained as it was prior to 1800 - the Middle class would be much smaller; rather than make up the majority of the population as it does now, probably only 20% of the population.

The best group of countries on the face of the planet

Heres more

>Wealth distribution would have remained as it was prior to 1800 - the Middle class would be much smaller; rather than make up the majority of the population as it does now, probably only 20% of the population.
>Education would be significantly lower, as the agricultural bent of the economy would leave little time for 50-60% of the population to undergo any formal schooling beyond basic grade school. Less than 20% of the population would graduate from High School, and probably less than 1% from college. As a consequence, the progression of science would be radically slower than it is now.
>Social mobility would be very low, even in the more "enlightened" cultures, as both education and wealth would be far more concentrated than today.
>Planes would not exist. There would be no rockets, and no spaceflight.

The crimes that came from the British Empire were bad, but the British Empire produced one of the most important events in human history that would not have happened till probably centuries later.

So you are saying that had workers not been mistreated during the industrial revolution then it would not have happened and all technological and social progress would have stopped? How exactly are you calculating these probabilities of yours?

except they aren't becoming introvert nations at all
UK has voted for brexit due to a lack of faith in the EU, the EU is very closed off from the rest of the world considering it only has a trade agreement with 4 of the 16 non-EU G20 nations - South Africa, South Korea, Mexico and Turkey
USA? I don't even know what specifically could be called introverted, Trump wants nations to be responsible for their own security and stop specific nations receiving a lot of outsourced jobs

you have to go back

plz liberate us from Anglo devils ;(

I think the point is that if it was indeed "built upon misery" then it at least stopped said misery, because misery is what humanity was living in up till that point anyway

>UK has voted for brexit due to a lack of faith in the EU
True but there was a lot of isolationist sentiment going around too, especially towards immigrants.

they're weren't settler colonies

>No reason we couldn't have progressed technologically or economically under a different system

You stupid fucking Commie. Your system is at best Idiocracy and at worst mass genocide. Capitalism works because it's harnesses the laws of natural selection. The people who have suffered and died because of Capitalism are a drop in the barrel compared to the suffering brought from forced equality.

Capitalism has ALWAYS been the most effective propeller of progress and improving the standard of living for everyone. No other system even comes close.

I'm saying you can whine about muh workers on /leftypol/ while wanking to marx all you want. Such misery civilized the fucking world. The world would be far more miserable without it. Also yes, had Britain not committed massive human rights abuses to their workers and the world abroad, it would not have happened. For the sake of argument though, name ONE truly altruistic nation or Empire.

Except that the capitalism practiced by the British empire during the industrial revolution (e.g. slavery, indentured servitude, deadly work environments etc.) is a great example of how unregulated capitalism does NOT improve the standard of living for everyone.

You can't reason with people like that. They have absolute no concept of the bigger picture. They just see one worker suffering and it makes them blind to the fact that his suffering directly leads to the prosperity of his children for generations to come.

So what se learned today is that everything is justifiable if it's done for the greater good. It's funny t'ho cause it's the same argument used bu the communist of old to defend Stalin

Industrial and Occupational injury is common today. What do you expect from a country that is just learning to Industrialize (The first ever country learning to industrialize) that they would have safe guards? Nobody knew shit like white phosphorous was so lethal, nobody knew a ton of things. In the end it helped improved the standard of living a hundred fold. For the planet.

That was just misery with no progress though, there was no worthwhile end to justify the means

Burn the anglo

yes its amazing that after they invented the steam engine people didnt automatically pickup the 8 hour work day and occupational health and safety standards
I'm sure under communism that would have been fixed up right away, I mean the government just needed a chance to hold all the power to really get things done

>French gratitude

Never said everything could be justified. Being the first to turn your country from an agricultural society to industrial society is what happened. The world was a lot better for it. The Romans made the Nazis look like sentimental pussies with the horrible shit they did for hundreds of years. They are still the basis for Western Civilization.

The living standards of factory workers during the Industrial revolution was still 5x better than the life of a peasant farmer, which is why they moved to the city in the first place.

How about you compare that vs how many workers starved to death in Communist regimes.

Work place injury was a lot more common back then, especially in the factories. It took the formation of labour unions and literal riots to get companies to start giving a shit about worker's rights.

>usa and uk have meme leaders
>australia, canada and nz don't

i assume we're going to be dragged into another meme war sometime within the next 4 years

exactly, thank you capitalism

>critique unregulated capitalism
>"hurrr but communism is bad"

Unions are an invention of Capitalism.

you're "critiquing" the thing that caused living standards to improve a hundredfold

you're comparing modern standards to a historical period, the industrial revolution DID improve standards and quality of life for everyone at that time

*a reaction to Capitalism

The cause of almost all good and bad things in the world.

>capitalism
employees strike due to unsatisfactory conditions, a stalemate is in place until the employer or employees gives in to conditions
>communism
employees strike due to unsatisfactory conditions and are executed that night

And? I'm not saying workers should be treated like shit. Would you trade our Industrialized society for an Agricultural one? Can you even imagine being in the labor-intensiveness of agriculture before automation? You'd die young, with kids you can barley feed and many would die of illness and none would have an education. You'd literally be a shit eating peasant.

Economically speaking that is like trading a pile of gold bricks for a pile of platinum bricks just because the platinum brick owner doesn't like how many mexicans are loitering around his massive wealth stockpile.

Even Ancaps fully support the formation of private unions numbnuts. When somebody criticizes unions, they're talking about public unions which are indeed cancer.

Capitalism fixed the problem of working conditions, not the government.

I reckon working in a textile factory full of smoke and pieces of sharp, fast-moving metal was quite a lot more dangerous than working on a farm tbqh.

This must be the stupidest post I've ever read

Okay listen Luigi, you worthless fucking faggot. Your country is a fucking joke, you're a communist shit hole and you can't afford to fix the fucking cracks in your sidewalk. I went for an audience with the pope the other day, and my mother wept, not for the popes speech, but for the poor, the dying children not inside the walls but on the streets of the surrounding city. It's so sad, how Italy creates the false heir of history, and clings to it so, Florence, Sienna, Orvieto, Assissi, the great religious men who worked here, and died there to feed the poor, their tombs are trodden over by the people brought in to exploit your cities of their people while the government takes all the revenue to spend on its fucking it's crooked agenda. You were gifted these monuments to the ancient world by your ancestors, and you squander it on nothingness. You're a fucking dirty disgusting people, and your last concern should be football you fucking spineless piece of shit.

you know the industrial revolution wasn't limited to factories right?
literally every job was made easier with the steam engine, chopping trees, plowing soil, transporting goods

At least you don't have natives. The most useless race of people in existence and were forced to give them money so they can drink all day. At least mexicans will work.

These threads make me 100% mad

It's thanks to the anglos that we have everything today, so be bloody grateful, not hateful because "muh atrocities"

The French were more tyrannical to their colonies than the anglos and didn't achieve as much by far.

Yet everyone hates on them while using their inventions, their political system, their manufactoring, engineering and all the other things.

GO INVENT YOUR OWN FUCKING WORLD FAGGOTS

>being this triggered by some light online banter

What do you think of the Russosphere?

I do know that but you keep insisting that everyone's living conditions improved. I'm trying to show you that that is not the case.

You can "reckon" but it wasn't. Read about how cheerful life was for peasants working in bread baskets in Europe per-industrialization. Look at how significantly worse life would be without the industrial revolution in my posts here

Cute

You keep trying to justify suffering by saying "but some good things happened around the same and after time and that makes it OK". Life as a peasant back then wasn't fun at all but it didn't carry the daily risk of amputation by machinery or the long term effects of smoke inhalation.

Just take it as it was a necessary evil. Here we are today.

Serious question, are you working or studying right now?

USA - Cool, bro-tier people
Canada - Nice people
New Zealand - Cancerous liberals
Australia - Fun people with fucked up sense of humor like us
Britain - Cancer, no offense but literally the Cancer.

>Some good things
>One of the biggest achievements in human history

Trivialize it all you want. I don't need to justify it, my existence justifies it. My biggest concerns in life right now are what am I going to buy from the supermarket for dinner tonight or how much traffic I'm going to be stuck in coming home from work. If Industrialization hadn't happened wolves eating my livestock and the common cold killing me would be REAL problems. Too bad I can't go back in time with the knowledge you know now and teach safety regulations and workplace hazardous materials Information. Damn shame.

It wasn't that people didn't know certain aspects of industrialization were dangerous. Pure ignorance was rarely the cause of hardship. The people who owned the businesses simply didn't care and didn't want anything to cut into their bottom line.

We can thank business interests for the tech but groups like the IWW for us not living in a complete dystopic corporate nightmare.