When will Scotland leave GB?

When will Scotland leave GB?

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Figel Narrage will build SKIP party and make Scotland great again.

They will join as the 53rd state

after they opted out of the eu. scots will solely manage to come back into it.

Hopefully. Scots are based af.

>Scots are based af.

You are joking?

You do know they are the most pro migrant part of our cunt?

If they do, it'll quickly turn into a migrant-ridden shithole.

Being stuck with you is turning us into a migrant ridden shithole anyway

scotcucks already are a migrant ridden shithole you fuckers are the ones causing it with your shitty sturgeon

migrants were never a real problem for the UK.

Uh... not anymore.

The Scottish governments plan is a 7% growth n population form now to 2035, and made up of 90% immigrants.

You can read this for yourself, but you are probably too stupid to understand what the parties you vote for, stand for.

PRAY they never get control over immigration.

Depends how bad brexit is.
We're in for interesting times.

in all seriousness.
won't Scotland leave the """United""" """Kingdom""" if they actually leave Europe?
Scotland would benefit alot by staying in the EU.
right?

its just propaganda to push for the independence tho.

hopefully they fuck off soon, leaching wankers

They can call another referendum but there is no reason that 55% wont vote to remain in the UK again.

The EU's economy is stagnant with less than 1% growth and they currently trade more with teh rest of the UK than the Eu as a whole, and yet they push to remain in teh EU and would divide the UK for it... Why?

I'll tell you:

The SNP are socialist cunts who believe in globalism and would hapilly sell Scotland to Brussels for a cushy EU job and pension in return.

They are assholes par excellence.

Tell that to the communities in Bute and the Black Isle and the borders that have had dozens of shitskin families dumped in their small villages, and now go to school with their children.

It is despicable.

Do you homework before you comment

ok so, they wouldn't benefit by stayin in the EU then?
I've heard a lot of people that alledgedly know about this that they would though.

When the tories have completely lost their minds which does seem to be the case more and more nowadays. Please keep shooting yourself in the foot some more for the upcoming negotiations Britain, the pound can go a lot lower if you ask me.

Ideally they want to stay a part of Britain and the EU because it makes the most sense economically. There are some important issues for them to sort out now they are leaving the Union. Scottish imports/exports with the EU will be much less competitive hurting their economy. The EU also put more money into Scotland then Scotland sent out so now there is going to be a deficit if the rest of the UK doesn't want to subsidize them.

I find it funny that the English use the taking back our sovereignty from other countries as a tagline for Brexit but when Scotland asks for the exact same thing from the UK people call them traitors.

Only according the the Scottish government who think that Scotland NEEDs EU trade deals, and NEEDSs EU immigrants to replace its population.

If a person is a left leaning piece of shit who doesn't care about his countries identity and is happy to sell out to globalism, and all it entails, or someone who really doesn't mind throwing away democracy for bureaucracy, then sure the EU is great.

But for people who prefer a country that is not willing to cuck itself out of existence, no the EU is an evil and failing bureaucratic superstate that holds no advantages at all.

Sadly, Scotland is full if socialist idiots who really have no clue what they are voting for, or the bigger picture.

Hope Gert wins. Nexit now!

I find it funny that the English use the taking back our sovereignty from other countries as a tagline for Brexit but when Scotland asks for the exact same thing from the UK people call them traitors.

Leaving the UK union and joining the EU union is traitorous on so many levels, it is traitorous to the Scottish people to take back power form Westminster and hand it to Brussels with no democratic control over the decisions made there.

Also, currently the Scottish gov, had devolved powers over everything except defence and immigration. 2 items they and bent on destroying the country with if they had the power to do so.

Supporting that direction is terrifying as to the impact it will have in the country when the next 3 generations of growth are 90% immigrant.

Source, and article form yesterday: bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38704218 )

dunno what makes you so serious and uptight even though its about the scots referendum.

> shitskin families dumped in their small villages
what a medieval fantasy that only internet shitters believe in. such beautiful villages you would imagine like in videogames, would see only on the internet, are nowhere to be seen irl. as long as they are people who live in this modern fucked up world as we live and need earn money to live on, they are just the same average humans as others, not fairies.

brexshit is such a fucking economic disaster that would destroy their lives to the poorest extent from the viewpoint of 1st world standard. they arent 3rd world scum, they should maintain the current living standard.

The amount of control the EU has over national decisions is minuscule compared to the amount Westminister has

The SNP is ruining Scotland already, god help them if they manage to have any say in defence or immigration.

You need only say "Westminster" and they sit their pants in anger. I have absolutely no idea why they think the EU would be better ruling over them than someone who can be held accountable. Feels good to live in an area that receives more money from the EU than pays in and voting to leave though.

I've been there, I've seen it, I'm from there.

Go fuck yourself if you think shitskins belong s small population homogeneous villages.

You can take yoru globaist rhetoric and. shove it up your ass frankly. The EU is at less than 1% grwth. There is no advantage to staying in a trade union with them, and it does. not mean that all trade stops, only that new deal will be negotiated. Nothing to stop trading even before a deal is made.

Come back when you understand basic economics.

The ideal thing to do would be to join the EFTA so we can stay part of the single market and make a separate trade agreement with the rest of the UK

Literally all powers except defence and immigration are now devolved to Holyrood friend. Westminster does not have control over the workings of Scotland anymore. Just the UK as a whole.

>The SNP is ruining Scotland already, god help them if they manage to have any say in defence or immigration.

Indeed. It's fucking terrifying.

>Literally all powers except defence and immigration are now devolved to Holyrood friend

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Almost no economic policy is devolved, benefits aren't, energy policy, data protection and consumer rights are all still at Westminster

So are you saying to get independance from the UK and then join the EFTA? Just to make sure I don't misunderstand you.

I'm not sure why you would think having a trade deal with the UK instead of one with the EU would be a better idea. Unless I'm mistaken the highest importer of Scottish goods is the rest of the UK. You'd also have trouble with the land border between England and Scotland if that were to happen. Scotland would also probably lose access to UK universities unless you paid international fees. You'd probably have to switch to the Euro or face having England still controlling your currency.

It just seems like you're picking the harder route based on wanting independance alone.

Probably never. Even with Brexit, they really have nothing to gain by it apart from self determination, and they've gotten on fine without that for centuries now.

>sacrifice your empire because you wanted to defend Belgium
>slice your country into pieces because you can't stand Brussels
can't make this shit up. hahahahahahahaha

>It just seems like you're picking the harder route based on wanting independance alone
Not that it would happen because of countries like Spain but I could see leaving the UK and joining the EU to be a long term strategy since the EU market is so much bigger, and far more diverse than the UK. The EU (again if countries like Spain didn't go ape shit) would probably funnel money into Scotland so it stays afloat as a big middle finger to the UK.

Aren't most consumer rights and data protection policies enforced by the EU and not by Westminster?

Also economic policy is a tricky one. Because the SNP do get to decide where they spend the money they're given. That's why you have no tuition fees but your pre-HE education places are suffering. You don't get to decide things like corporation tax because you could set yourself up to become a tax haven with easy access to the UK.

>Losing two world wars
>Bottling it when at one point you covered literally the entirety of mainland Europe

10 miles outside Moscow and you fucking freeze to death. How incompetent are you?

What are people right around the border of Scotland and England like?

Are they Scots or English?

Yes. They have all the resources and way way lesser debt.

The UK has nothing left to offer, no colonies and no future prospects.

Usually just farmers. And most scots consider them English, even if they're in Scotland.

At this rate they will become independent after fucking Frisia. Why can't pro-independence groups get together and work for independence instead of trying to poison each other because of different political views? Catalonia is even worse.

The problems with what you're saying are that the EU market is "bigger", but they still send more to us than they do overseas. Also trade with the EU has been dropping so I see no reason why it would start going up.

I don't think the EU is in the position to funnel money in to Scotland. Scotland in the EU wouldn't be a very economically healthy country, and they don't need another Italy that could cause serious issues in the future. Especially now that the UK will be leaving and will not be part of the bail-out should it happen. It's a risky move where the risks are clear and the only reward is a feeling of smug satisfaction.

I didn't tell you to stop scrubbing my toilet

The EFTA grants access to the single market. However you are also able to negotiate agreements with countries outside the EU, which would be necessary scotland the the rest of the UK are each others biggest export markets.
I doubt there would be a hard border, May doesn't want one with Ireland, so I'm sure an agreement can be reached
Universities depends on the Brexit negotiations I suppose, even as it is I don't know many people who go down south for Uni anyway, because of the fees.
Currency is a mess I agree

Don't worry. You will soon scrub your own toilet msr
"Global Britain".

By the way its true, they will leave.

>muh english opressors
>we're a nation!
>votes to remain in uk because too scared of making it without english bucks

at least welsh are honest

data protection policy is set by Westminster and it is policed by the EU courts, however atm May just does what she wants

I just don't understand how someone from your country could possibly post the shit you posted. I've met some of your countrymen who were lawyers and accountants with degrees from your country, and they're scrubbing toilets and picking berries here. It's hilarious actually, you're like an underclass of red-faced baboons, a servile race of mongrols.

They could join us as the 51st state if they weren't so pro-EU. The only things they'd have to give up are the Pound and the Monarchy, both of which I'd think are more popular in England anyway.

Scottish on the Scottish side, English on the English side. They used to have their own unique Borderer identity from raiding each other all the time. When the two Kingdoms got merged a lot of them got sent to what would become Northern Ireland to police the rebellious Irish. The modern day protestants are partly descended from them

And yet I managed to bet a inbred shit like you so butthurt.

Our social excrement is our gift to you mate :)

Enjoy your Independence.

You have to think about the possibility of Scotland and the UK not reaching an agreement on a trade deal though and resorting to WTO rules. This would impact Scotland more than the rest of the UK and while the UK is currently offsetting the low pound with increased exports it's hard to see whether Scotland could do the same if tariffs were to come about.
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Even the picture alone is enough to see why I think staying with the UK and getting a trade deal is more beneficial.

Hard border is a tricky one. She doesn't want one in Ireland, but there's also a bit of water between NIre and the rest of us which would probably make it a bit easier to police.

Anecdotally, I knew I good couple of Scottish people where I went to university, and this was down in Portsmouth. I'd take a guess at there being more in say, Liverpool or Newcastle. It's hard to tell so let's skip how many actually go. But say you now have basically lost access to England's universities because it costs something like 20k upwards in most places. Those few hundred or possibly thousand people now have to try find places in Scottish universities, which could well become a problem. Of course, they have the choice of going to a European university, but most people don't want to move so far away from their families so I don't see it being a massive pull.

but the commonwealth realm still exists, nations like can, aus, and nz still have thee queen as their commander in chief, and they still have 53 member states within their commonwealth, which is mostly a political/economic coalition thingy

She'll get a slap on the wrist eventually. Maybe.

there's actually a neat book called "Scottish Border Country" by two brothers named Andrew and John Lang

it's worth a read

Is it hard going through life as such a vitriolic cunt ?

I think the only instance that the rUK and Scotland can't negotiate some form of trade deal would be one where the whole think becomes very politically toxic. Although that isn't unlikely I suppose ;_;
Also while I agree that rUK is currently better equipped to handle a WTO rules scenario, they are also probably reverting to WTO rules with the EU as well, which would be pretty savage for them.
Worse case scenario if there is a hard border, I guess I hope it would be something along the lines of the Norway Sweden border which is technically a hard customs border but only has sporadic checks on goods

For universities the inverse is also true, there would be a reduction in English students coming to study in Scotland

never desu

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Why did Scotland get a referendum but Wales didn't? Why are the Welsh OK with being ruled by some autocrats in London that they have almost no influence over? I swear, the actual Welsh that had balls moved to America, all thats left in Wales is a pacified remnant of what they once were.

t. Robert 'Lllewylllthyllwn' Wang

My last name is perfectly Welsh, Morgan.

>Almost no economic policy is devolved
That which pertains to Scotland is devolved
>benefits aren't
You would know more about that than me, but I believe universal credit is a Scottish thing isn't it? Get a job.
>energy policy
Wrong. All these wind farms and tidal monstrosities are 100% Scottish government and they are stuffing their pockets with it.
>data protection and consumer rights
So what - also that is most an EU thing, and fully would be if an full Eu member.

Get. Fucked.

Britons, some with Scottish accents, some with English

Drop the meme atheistism and start working on getting a better job

>Drop the meme atheistism
No.

>start working on getting a better job
I'm going back to college soon to do just that.

It would get pretty toxic yeah.

Even with WTO rules the UK would still be doing fairly well because of the low, or normal valued pound. There's economists arguing both ways so it's hard to say one side is definitely right. Although from what we've seen so far I'm more inclined to say it won't be a big hit.
That's probably what it would come down to, a Norway/Sweden type border. Although I do think it would be more strict based on who's going to be running the country for the next decade or so.

It's true, however rUK has more top universities which is more important I believe. I don't think anyone would be upset that there are no more spaces on Study of Film and Television courses. If I'm not mistaken, the number of top 100 universities in the UK is either the same or very close to the number of top 100 in the entirity of the EU. It'd be tough for Scotland to attract the high skilled people it would probably want to not turn into a fairly poor country. Shit, it's tough for the UK to do it in anywhere that isn't near the golden triangle.

You'll be much happier after you get out of your edgy teenage ways

There's a half chinese half welsh poster who yanks around sometimes, assumed you were him.

Wales is too poor and small really, it also doesn't have the advantage of a lot of separate institutions like Scotland does

I'm in my 20s. I was less happy when I was religious.

You sound more miserable now t.bh

You don't know my life.

Because the Welsh are so far detached from the rest of the UK Westminster decisions don't reach here.

You have to go to Liverpool if you want to see what the UK is really like. Rhyl should be wiped off the map.

In your 20s and you are quote an "entry level wage cuck at a Macys"

Sounds like you live a horrible life

Bruh, I'm just taking a year off of college to work because I was tired of school.

Sure you are

They have to weight the benefits of no longer having the obvious conflict of interests in Westminster when it's the case of either Scotland or the other parties to the matter and the harm that may come from not being in the UK.

Though judging by the case of how Ireland is doing they should indeed leave and set themselves as a tax haven because being a tax haven is actually a very hard thing to do in practice otherwise every country would be one.

I don't think the low value of the pound will have as great an effect as people are hoping it will desu, but we will see.

Uni wise I'm not entirely sure what your point is. The super smart kids from Scotland are still going to manage to get to Oxbridge, and other than that I think Scotland has enough high tier uni's to manage its own population. Attracting high skilled people would be easier if anything because of the free movement of people

Are you the Scottish guy in Russia?

Also universal credit is UK wide

It's so far having a very good effect on some businesses. It sucks if you want to go on holiday overseas but it's not that much more really.

Scotland has 2 universities in the top 100, rUK 14. They can get to those universities that's for sure, but they now have to pay international student fees which not all can. It would be a worsening of social mobility for the Scottish.

On the point of attracting high skilled people, you have to think about do they want to live in that country too. Wales suffers because no one wants to live there and would instead choose to live in London or the other wealthy cities. The same would also happen to Scotland. There's nothing to stop the UK allowing high-skilled people in to the country, but those people also have to choose to live there. It would also be one of the difficulties the EU faces should it try to lure bankers from London.

I bow to your superior knowledge of the benefits system.

Could the Union buy your vote for an extra tenner a week?

Fuck the jocks.

They will never have the balls to leave (see: indy ref) but will simultaneously never cease moaning about independence.

Worse than the fucking paddys.

I think that's a temporary bump which is going to be wiped out by the rising inflation we're seeing.

rUK has about 8 times the population of Scotland though, so in terms of access to high tier uni's nothing really changes

Other small northern euro nations like ireland, denmark or norway manage to have better standards of living than the UK without having a London sized city to attract highly skilled people. I think enough skilled people will still want to come and live in Scotland if they're offered pay which they feel is reasonable. Not everywhere needs to have a massive London style city dominating the economy to succeed.

I'm not on benefits m8

I'm not even an independence voter, I'm just not a rabid orangeman licking the queens arse

>tfw actually finding out just how shite the labour councils are around me
jesus FUCK
renfrewshire is on its last chance before I set of the dirty bomb desu
[spoiler]good thing my da is running for council as SNP ;^)[/spoiler]

Possibly but we'll see. So many experts are saying different things it's hard to decide who's right. They had an economist on LBC today at some point which was an interesting listen but probably biased.

Well that's the thing. Some people will undoubtably lose out as they do now but the question is how many. Also if they will remain as good as they are now with less money, as I don't see Scotland becoming richer should it leave. Of course it doesn't need to be a top 100 university to have a number of good courses, but the rankings really do pull in a lot more applications.

The money isn't everything though. And as dumb as it sounds because London is a hellhole, it has a massive pull in terms of culture and lifestyle to other nations. It's the same with somewhere like NYC. Scotland just doesn't have the high-tech industry needed to become a wealthy country. For Scotland get those sorts of industry it'll need investment from outside, and currently there are no reasons to start up in Scotland.

You're going to be on some list now friend. I suggest you head for Turkey.

Hopefully never
Scotland would end up being third world especially since GBs economy is tied so closely to London

considering how many rising fuck heads are here among us, i appreciate that Danish buddy

Didn't some EU member states (Spain in particular iirc) say they would block an independent Scotland attempting to join?

people from northern england literally act like the northerners below the wall from game of thrones, whining that its cold all the time

scots deserve something better
scoxit 2019

>Scotland can´t fuck our union up because that´s our job -England and Wales

Fuck Scots, look at Northern Ireland that is their fault!

>irish wife
That's the real crime

there will never, NEVER be an image that better describes this wankstain of a country

Are the english going to use violence to keep scotland in the union like they did with northern ireland?

When?

Yes, English death squads will be patrolling the streets of Edinburgh soon