What is wrong with poortugal?
Zero demage in ww2, marschal plan, in EU since 86(20 years before eastern europe) so shitload of germoney for infrastructure, free money from colonies
And this is the result:
Poorer than eastern europe, huge debt, unemployment, africa tier hospitals, detroit ghetto tier education, no industry, ugly people
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It's genetics. Cold weather created a selective pressure for intelligence. Portugal isn't cold, so they never evolved to be as smart as the other Europeans.
By your logic Russians would wipe the shit out of their asses with money
We would have to do that. But communism happened.
No idea, we are supposed to be the lazy iberians.
How many portugese are mixed with africans and indians?
30-40%??
t. butthurt czech that never answered my question
the russians created a generation of butthurt materialistic slavshits
Not many. They have tons of ex-colonials in Lisbon, though.
Elaborate
why are you so butthurt user?
when i read articles about greece there were sometimes czechs who wrote some bullshit comments
before that i thought people here were just joking that they are butthurt
Low IQ from all the miscegenation with Africans.
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lynn is a subhuman like you brazilians
Not nearly as subhuman as you, literal cockroach.
>ugly people
*cute people
>stealing greek user's maps
I am a Greek you ape
But you now live in fascism, Artyom
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loosen up
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We now live in such a surrealistic shit that I don't even have a term to describe this Juan
kys
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i fucked your mother and you happened
What did he mean by this? Pls tell
kys
Well greeks are entitled commies
They deserve poverty as a lecture
the dog was faster thats why your brother is so hairy
We have diagnosed retard type II in your blood.
Wow. Is this because of drugs?
not its not funny
kys
Also because of African migrants.
Damn.
HIV prevalence today is a lot lower
source: your ass
We had fascism and a little war
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>leftie media
>source
Top kek
Whatever makes you sleep at night
Basically a lot of political instability and poor economic policies really retarded economic growth. It's also not a very rich country in terms of resources and was historically always been kind of a poor area.
Also, colonies were always much more expensive to maintain than what the mother country got out of them, at least in the second wave.
Haha butthurt czcuck BTFO
>What is wrong with poortugal?
nothing, one of the biggest world reserves of gold, literally jews while pretending to be poor has fuck.
You don't magically get rid of HIV overnight. It will take at least three generations for HIV to be fully eradicated from Portugal, if at all, considering the never ending waves of African migrants coming into the country.
>venezuela has ton of gold
>is in the middle of an economic meltdown
EXPLAIN????
Socialism
>selling gold
>ever
Maybe you're retarded
it was the last colonial empire.
The portuguese saw the world in their own way and unlike the rest of europe refused to go with the flow and wanted to do things their own way.
The problem with that is the cold war. The colonies all got BTFO and portugal got dragged down with its empire.
Not really,our empire ended in 1999-2002
>never ending waves of African migrants coming into the country
lol
>being this openly ignorant about basic economics
Civilization doesn't revolve around gold, Moor. Manufactured goods, services and technology are hundreds of times more valuable than gold. It doesn't matter how much gold you're hoarding in your federal reserve, if you lack a strong industry and isn't able to develop technology you'll most certainly remain as poor as you should.
Até é verdade porque Salazar era um cuco pelas colónias psh
We had a dictatorship until 74 so we were undeveloped, still exists today old people that doesn't know how to read and write properly because they "didn't need" they just had to work in agriculture. Other thing is our position in Europe, we are far away of the main Europe and back in the days that lead to isolacionism, now we are trying to get back on track and the quality of life is good despite the crisis.
ps: The haploshit that you guys posted doesn't mean anything most of eb1 and j in Portugal doesn't correlate with the jews or the north africans and recent studies made by a portuguese university prove that. But wtv makes you happy
>most of eb1 and j in Portugal doesn't correlate with the jews or the north africans
>t. Shlomo ibn Moshe al-Berberi
But gold was supposed to magically protect countries against all economic problems
Did Sup Forums lie to me?
>Did Sup Forums lie to me?
Sup Forums circa Ron Paul memes? I wish I bought gold back in early 2000s t.b.h.
Dumb masses in Russia took everything over and killed anyone with ambition or intellect.
That's why Russia is the shithole we know today.
Uncompetitive economy mixed with highly socialist values and a dictator who literally wanted to keep people stupid to reign over them.
Also for how long have you been making these threads now? Almost two years?
The Iberian Peninsula as a whole is underdeveloped by Western European standards because of your low IQ, something that's hardcoded in your DNA, which consequentially leads to poor government choices and therefore keeps your nation behind the other Western European nations that are predominantly high IQ. The same applies for every underdeveloped nation: bad genes leading to low IQ leading to a poorly managed government leading to whatever problems that come with it.
This also explains why every [ethnic] Anglo-Saxonic colonies outperformed every single Iberian colony (none of which could be predominantly ethnically Iberian, as much expected) in every imaginable way, everywhere.
t. Nelson Macaco da Silva
retrasado, informa-te antes de escrever ou meto-te uma banana no cu.
>when facts hit you in the head like a bag of bricks
Prove me wrong providing actual arguments, until then I'll keep my statement.
Really lad, it takes 5 seconds of thinking to see why this is false and it's been debunked decades ago, don't be silly.
>We had a dictatorship until 74 so we were undeveloped
Portugal has always been a poor region since its first documented history.
>Other thing is our position in Europe, we are far away of the main Europe and back in the days that lead to isolacionism
And so is Finland, the UK (which is quite the definition of an isolated nation per se), also Japan. How about South Korea? Singapore comes to mind, maybe? What about Australia? New Zealand, I guess?
You'll roll it over, turn it around, pass it through, spin it, bend it, break it down to bits, yet the only reasonable answer will always be your average intellectual output. High IQ isolated populations will always manage to thrive and prosper, regardless of their resource scarcity or how harsh their environment might be, they will always find a way to get under the spotlight of success.
The government emanates from the people, and the people's productivity and inventive thinking is derived from their average IQ. No quality government will ever sprout from a low IQ population, and even if it did they wouldn't be able to achieve their desired goals as the ones they're ruling wouldn't be able to accomplish said goals, and again, even if they did, they wouldn't be able to maintain it for very long.
You can't blame the government when it's merely a reflection of your own people.
Interesting.
PISA test just don't agree with you
The first statement is completely false!
Cala-te autista do caralho,mesmo que não seja verdade cala-te
We don't like to work.
Nobody does, we're just okay with it.
What's wrong with the rest of europe desu. Work all year to spend the money they earned on a few weeks in southern europe.
I guess Croatia is worth all that hardwork for you Czechians...
Hm what?
I love working and most people I know too. Its just a great feeling to be tired after work and go to pub for amazing cold pilsner
richtiger spasti
I could work 3 months a year and live comfortably in portugal for the last 9. Why did you think finnish pensioners are moving there en masse?
t. jsem vysokoškolák a pracuji v montovně
You can't understand the southern people and why they are "lazy"...
I wish I was Greek or Sicilian... But Instead I am semi-southern-semi-eastern
it's the worst combination - you are lazy, but you don't get the benefits of good weather.
This winter has been so cold, that I feel as if I'm living in the Baltics. And it sucks. I've seen huge temp differences between Athena and Sofia (like 15 degrees), and this hurrrrrts
>the Czech poster baiting the Portuguese
>ikibey
>the Brazilian poster baiting the Portuguese
>all together in one thread
I expected more replies
we don't have any good data on Portuguese IQ, except some studies from the 70s and 80s. people sometimes use PISA results since they show correlation with IQ studies (it's a bit self-reinforcing though) but in that case Portugal in 2015 was "smarter" than many European countries (including Czechia btw) that are doing better economically so it'd be another factor ;)
At least you have sea...we have nothing :((((
Most "rich" countries don't owe their fortune to hard work or innovation
It isn't baiting when I'm proving actual arguments.
>people sometimes use PISA results since they show correlation with IQ studies
Academic performance doesn't always correlate intellectual output. Memory is proven to be the ruling factor when it comes to academic performance, regardless of your critical-analytical thinking and overall brain capability to understand signs and how fast you process external stimuli, which also affects your creative behaviour. A fairly simple example to debunk that argument: a genius from the 15th century such as Leonardo Da Vinci would most certainly perform very poorly on PISA tests today.
Plus, the welfare state and affirmative action naturally increases PISA scores even within low IQ populations, in the same way a poorly managed education system will naturally decrease PISA scores even within high IQ populations. IQ tests are still the most reliable method for measuring human intelligence because they don't require specific knowledge in specific fields of study. A genius raised by wolves in a forest would still score high on IQ tests regardless of his academic condition, in the same way a cretin raised in a first world nation enjoying all the benefits his government can provide will still score low on IQ tests regardless of his superior environment condition.
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>I love working
see, you quote people like Lynn who unlike you do think that PISA scores do have a very high correlation with IQ. in which case Portugal in 2015 was apparently "pretty smart"
otherwise, we need representative IQ tests done today and we don't have those so either way you seem to be making an argument that goes beyond the strength of your data
How can PISA scores be a reliable method to measure human intelligence when, as I mentioned above, a genius from the 15th century, or any innate genius who didn't have access to modern quality education per se, would inevitably perform poorly on PISA tests regardless of his/her intellectual output. And you don't have to go that far to know there is a fair share of geniuses among the poor, uneducated people.
PISA scores would be a reliable method to measure human intelligence if the whole world shared the exact same education system and culture. IQ tests don't require any of that.
The fact that Portugal performs decently well on PISA doesn't prove anything at all other than the fact that they have a decent education system, because as some of you know, Portugal also has "the smartest prostitutes in the world", because even though they do have a great portion of their population with a college degree, they "have no jobs", or, to be precise, they don't have enough jobs available for those college graduates who refuse to become an average working class citizen, with a college degree.
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look, I'm not arguing it is. but your source for the Portuguese IQ does think so (which is why in his later books, he started modifying his IQ estimates based on student assessment data - not just PISA but TIMSS etc too). so Portugal in 2015 was apparently just about as "smart" as say the UK and "smarter" than say Austria or Iceland
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Leonardo Da Vinci would most certainly perform very poorly on PISA tests today.
No he wouldn't lmao
he's talking about prespective, Da Vinci's knowledge wouldn't be enough to have a +1 level in PISA test in modern age, even though in his time, his knowledge and intelect would allow him to atain 100% score easely (since he's an adult an all)
but so did spain
ok someone has to fucking tell me how the fuck does noway have a huge gdp
They are white, and about as uncucked a you can be in Norther Europe.
>even worst korea which was a africa/india tier shithole with no resources or whites developed in only 60 years
>moortugal can't even be first world even tho it's populated with white people who had a vast colonial empire for resources for centuries and US marshall plan aid.
Pol btfo?
Oil money you silly billies
They are pretty much the only European country with proper oil.
Portugal is Moor as fuck and is not much Iberian.
I got 27 problems but not being Iber is not one.
Maybe it's because they have had relatively long time of peace and pretty good climate so they won't bother to advance better? I mean there is nothing that forces them.