Mostly elected by those who are poor and left behind

>mostly elected by those who are poor and left behind
>will help the rich by lowering taxes, deregulation and tarrifs (making stuff more expensive)
America, explain yourself

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tarrifs are a good thing you globalist non-white subhuman

>by lowering taxes
You mean corporate tax?

>Poor people generally buy the cheapest they can get.
>The cheapest is usually made in china or mexico.
>Tremp will impose tariffs on those.
>They get more expensive.

yes
this will only benefit millionairs and business owner, but will hurt poor people

but they hurt poor people who depend on cheap products from abroad

But that's retarded you idiot

Pretty much every economist agrees that corporate tax should be lower or non existent.

It's a terrible way to tax "rich people", if you want to tax the rich then tax the rich. Corporate tax is a bad way of doing this because it costs jobs

Also you're stupid.

The Corporate tax rate in Germany is 15%. It's over double in the US - 35%.

The US tax rate is too high as it is and it makes no sense. You're dumb and don't kboe what you're talking about

I've actually heard this a lot, but I'm not sure if it's a meme.
It makes sense that money spent on the economies shouldn't be taken away, but at the same time all you're left with is taxing products and people, who fills the hole?

But USA has almost full employment

The current U.S. federal tax rate on income earned by big, profitable domestic corporations is 35%.

Compare that to the 15% corporate tax rate in Canada, 25% in China, 15% in Germany, 12.5% in Ireland, 23.9% in Japan, 22% in Korea, 8.5% in Switzerland, 17% in Taiwan, 20% in the U.K., and 17% in Singapore. In fact, our superhigh 35% rate only matches up with the likes of Argentina (also 35%), Belgium (33%), Brazil (34%), Chad (also 35%), Congo (35%), France (33.3%), Venezuela (34%) and Zambia (35%), which are not exactly known for their booming economies. No country has a corporate tax ratehigher than ours.

>inb4 some burger starts spinning tales about muh real unemployment

you cant count on these graphs because they often incorrectly include people who are underemployed

USA also has 15% corporate tax on the first $50,000 of income

Massive corporations that employ thousands of people make a lot more than that

A based leaf? The fucks going happening?!

>America starts Globalism and is the only one that benefits from it
>WE WILL NO LONGER SURRENDER TO THE FALSE SONG OF GLOBALISM


What did he mean by this?

I'm so confused right now I can't even type right.

seeing how many massive corporations USA has, it seems like they are doing pretty well despite the high corporate tax rate

Look, if you want to tax the rich more that's fine, and logical. But corporate tax is not a good way of doing this, as unanimously agreed on by almost every economist.

People just hear"corporation " and think "evil, need to punish" but that's not right.

Nigger the US has significantly higher corporate tax rate than Germany and Canada

It makes no sense

do you have any other data we can relay on?

But Germany has a much higher tax rate than USA in General

>Look, if you want to tax the rich more that's fine, and logical. But corporate tax is not a good way of doing this, as unanimously agreed on by almost every economist.
So is Trump gonna replace the corporate tax with another tax?

Yeah but most of this employment is just part time jobs. Talk to me when we start getting full time

How does that justify it anyway

It's a terrible policy

I don't know

But a consumption tax seems like a better idea.

Point is: if you want to tax the rich then tax the rich. Corporate tax at all is a bad idea.

>mostly elected by those who are poor and left behind
>will help the rich
Talking to us.

So for whom we should vote?

got stats on that?

>mostly elected by those who are poor

love this meme

my point is, if Trump is gonna lower the corporate tax without introducing any other taxes, it is gonna hurt the poor really badly

you have any statistics on that?

Actually Hilary won the poverty votes

Vote for the poor village idiot who's never had over $2000 and has mild bouts of schizophrenia occasionally.

He'll know how to introduce policies that best represent the poor and disenfranchised.

Republicans are beyond retarded. If Fox news tells them their lives are better they'll believe it.

I'm on phone right now and the reception here is really shitty but I'm not joking, Im just getting off my second job now because nobody will give out full time.

cnbc.com/2016/08/05/charts-whats-the-real-unemployment-rate.html
article goes into to detail
tldr raw unemployment rate isnt a very good indicator of how many people are gainfully and productively employed and contributing towards the system

>my point is, if Trump is gonna lower the corporate tax without introducing any other taxes, it is gonna hurt the poor really badly

t. "german" economics

Just look for u6 unemployment

people earn money through jobs in a functional economy, not the government

oh my, looks like we will have to take you at your word

Poor people are usually stupid, and that's why they're poor.

Alright fine Ahmed, here's what I found on shitty cheap phone that took forever to load
tcf.org/content/commentary/graph-america-has-a-part-time-employment-problem/

all of them have the latest phones and new clothes so no. not poor.

i am so tired of seeing shit like this. there is way wayyyyyyyyyy more unemployment.

poor white people are tricked into voting for their own suffering becuase right wing candidates appealed to identity and tacked on some anti-immirgant policies they probably aren't going to stick to, and the modern left hates poor white people

what else is new

no matter at which measurement rate you look, it is clear that the unemployment has gone down drastically in the last 8 years. So it looks like Obama did do something right

sure, but poor people have to relay more often on help from the state than the rich, also, they are more dependant on public service like schools or health care, for example

that literally follows (proportionally) u3 historically

>corporate tax rate in Finland and USA is the same
>Finnish companies actually pay their taxes in Finland
>USA companies use scams to get out of paying taxes in USA
>Finland uses tax money to pay for free university for everyone
>No free university in USA
>Finland has perfect healthcare for everyone without health insurance
>USA charges crazy money for health care
>Finland has amongst the lowest crime on earth because people don't need to rob and steal to make money to survive
>USA crime is out of control

No we don't, food isn't expesnsive and if you live in a cheap home that has more than 4 working people you can pay for rent and utilities fine. Plus housing in America is super cheap, stop acting like a snobbish little brat.

thanks for the source, but it is like 5 years old, isn't it?
Do you maybe have some more recent sources?

>all of them have the latest phones and new clothes so no. not poor.
>poor people know how to judiciously prioritize expenditures
It's like you don't understand how people before/stay poor

Idk do your own research dick. I'm not gonna sit here and spoon feed you every link I find and read.

but there is like 6 people your entire country. you cant compare anything about finland to america.

>his country has the same population as a mid-level population state like Colorado

but as a poor person, you cant afford private school, so you must rely on the quality of public schools. Also, living in a poor neighbourhood, there are more crime and you depend more on the police force than rich gated communities, who can afford private security.
This are only two of many example that show that poor people rely more on the state than rich ones.

>>live in a cheap home that has more than 4 working people
U.S.A

what about Germany? We have 1/4 of your population.
And you cant argue that something that works for 80 millions suddenly stops working for 350 millions

>poor people know how to judiciously prioritize expenditures
no

That's why we own guns. Police can take up to 30 minutes to an hour to respond.

Our homes are very large, and nobody over 25 lives with roommates.

here is a meme
6 and 12 at the start
6 and 12 at the end

>And you cant argue that something that works for 80 millions suddenly stops working for 350 millions

You can when the costs aren't linear.

Healthcare for example is not a linear cost, and public healthcare in Canada and Britain is falling apart

I am just curious that you are so sure that you are right, when you have very little evidence that support your position
Have you ever considered that you might be wrong and the unemployment dropped drastically during Obamas administration?

>Healthcare for example is not a linear cost
Elaborate please

>german asks questions about america
>americans tell him what's up
>german does not listen

how are costs not close to linear for healthcare past a certain size?

Kinda my point, genius. You can be poor and still have a few nice, shiny things, especially if we're talking pre-2008 (I was already a poor working adult then).
What I don't get is why the individual states haven't done it. I'm all for public healthcare, but I don't like giving more power to the feds.

Well I apologize if I was acting like an asshole then. I thought you were just some champagne liberal acting snobbish and looking down on us lower class. I could be wrong and so could you, but as I said in my previous post in on my phone so if I have to do extensive research than I need to get home.

>the unemployment dropped drastically during Obamas administration?
is that what the news told you? did you see this for yourself? entire plants shut down and communties destroyed?

whats that? no? hmmm thats very inderdasting

you need more emergency services and staff, buildings etc the more people you have

It's not like [Cost of healthcare for 300 million] = (cost of healthcare for 30 million) * 10

Kind of hard to compare a tiny ass Nordic country to the United States

>t. "german" economics
Well, you both will never agree on economics. It's totally impossible to compare German economy and Anglo-Saxon econimies.
Anglo Saxon economies are build opon the paradigm of Smith and now on paradigm of Milton Friedman.
The German economy is based on Leibnitzian principles.

Also Keynsianism is extremly popular in the USA while most German economist think of Keynsianism to be only a nice theory that never worked in practice.

Same goes for other economic schools , for example the German Austrians base their views on Mises while American Austrians are heavily sold on Rothbard.

So chances are high both of you guys have lot's of valid arguments for totally different approaches of national economy.
It's not smart to discuss these until you yourselfs reach levels of understanding of economy like these great scientists.

nice buzzwords there karl

You haven't reponded to what I said.

>USA companies use scams to get out of paying taxes in USA

They are scamming the US people while paying them shitty wages and not contributing back to the tax system that built the roads they use, the water they use, the eelectricity they use, the bridges they use, the schools their employees and their kids use, etc.

You can't not pay tax.

No, obiviously I didn't see it myself, I have to rely on statistics that I find on the internet.
However, while anecdotal evidence certanly has its value, it can sometimes lead to false conclusions

Thank you for your apology. I just find it strange that lower class people elect a billionair like Trump, who campagin promise was to lower coroprate taxes. Wouldn't it more beneficial to you to vote for somebody like Bernie?

>entire plants shut down
>mfw I'm the dick installing/repairing automated manufacturing machines
Automation will continue to kill manufacturing jobs, and nothing will stop that.

t. saw the writing on the factory wall nearly a decade ago and changed career path accordingly

I'm having issues understanding, how are costs increasing faster than income?
You have 10 times the people, you get 10 times the money, so you spend 10 times on building and services.
The only difference is initial investment in central stuff like management, which is to the detriment of smaller states, not big ones.
How exactly are two hospitals more expensive than one hospitalX2?

>you need more emergency services and staff, buildings etc the more people you have
yeah, but i would expect the cost to raise linear with the amount of people.
Mabye even less than linear, if you consider special med centers for super rare disease, those get cheaper and cheaper the more people you have

Yea I was forced to learn about that shit at university. It's horribly useless shit until you become dictator of your own state.
But hey I will never give up the hope.

>who campagin promise was to lower coroprate taxes

That's not a bad thing.

>Wouldn't it more beneficial to you to vote for somebody like Bernie?
Bernie Sanders is a mentally deficient communist

oh no, an anecdote, my only weakness
*dies*

>Bernie Sanders is a mentally deficient communist
I am sure you meant socialist?

>How exactly are two hospitals more expensive than one hospitalX2?

Because you need more than two, you basically just need a lot more resources and it just doesn't scale this way

>Bernie Sanders is a mentally deficient communist

You deserve everything you get from Trump.

Loving every laugh.

why though? why would twice the people need more than twice the hospitals?

Capitalism is the cancer killing humanity, only through the examination; of the people's glorious immortal revolutionary science of Marxism, and its enactment, Communism, revolutionary action of the people, abolition of capital and the bourgeois plutocracy.

WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!

yeah we do deserve the glory

He's already making me money

>Americans vote for the interests of their country instead of their own selfish interests
Something Europoors can't understand.

yeah lol they're really helping those refugees

definitely in the interests of their own country to import millions of muslims

sounds to me like something the rich would tell to the poor to make them vote against their own best interest

you have to provide evidence that free trade is bad for the USA for that to be true

yea, we need to hurry up and build our super efficient robot savoirs already or we're all fucked.

one could only hope...

whats with you people and communism?
they literally horde all the wealth and tell you what to do. frig off

lmao

how would you come to the conclusion that Bernie Sanders is a communist?

Youngstown, OH
>we need to hurry up and build our super efficient robot savoirs
It's already done. It's just a matter of implementation over time.

Stay salty, low-skill fags.

he wants to expand the government and control EVERYTHING.

>yeah? Well, my dad says...

oh hey im from erie pa
funny finding a user in Sup Forums that close

t. Marxist

>a town
>USA
Many cities have gone down for various reasons, obsolete resources like coal, running out of stuff to dig out and so on, I was hoping for an actual analysis of the overall US economy.
Having jobs for the sake of having jobs is a communist mantra, Americans are suppose to be looking for opportunities rather than waiting for handouts for obsolete industries.

>erie pa
You're trash.
>Marxist
No. Not everything is a dichotomy, especially individuals' beliefs. You might realize this when you're through with your adolescence.

KEK!

I'm not really disagreeing with you, but if you don't get the significance of Youngstown's relationship with globalism as seen by the American people, I can't really explain it.
The reality is that people like myself have destroyed more American jobs than globalism. As robotic as they seem, it's not the chinks we need to worry about, it's the robots.

You're a cuck Hans. Nobody cares about the opinion of a cuck faggot.

>looking for opportunities rather than waiting for handouts for obsolete industries
that involves packing up and moving which isnt that easy. i guess i either need to git gud or go live in the wilderness.

well fuck you too buddy

Well fuck you three.

>isnt that easy
Yes, it is, you short-sighted, shiftless poorfag. People like you need to stop making excuses and get your shit together, or just go away.