Is it patrician?

is it patrician?

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no, Mariah is a hack

i think yes
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she may be now, but she still has a few albums with artistic merit under her belt

1986-2006 Mariah is patrician

Mariah Carey [Columbia, 1990]

I swear I didn't know her mama was an opera singer, but I'm embarrassed that I didn't guess. She gets too political in her brave, young, idealistic attack on "war, destitution and sorrow": "Couldn't we accept each other/Can't we make ourselves aware." Elsewhere she sticks to what she doesn't know--love. Debbie Gibson, all is forgiven. C

Emotions [Columbia, 1991] *bomb*

Music Box [Columbia, 1993] *bomb*

Butterfly [Columbia, 1997] *bomb*

#1's [Columbia, 1998]

"Fantasy [Featuring ODB]" *choice cuts*

Rainbow [Columbia, 1999]

Not a "real" r&b thrush, but good enough to fake it ("Heartbreaker," "Crybaby"). **

E=MC2 [Island, 2008]

"Touch My Body" *choice cuts*

Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel [Island, 2009] *bomb*

YES

#rekt

Kinda expected that desu. Christgau has a major hateboner for wannabe opera singers. Mariah, Whitney, J-Lo...he didn't like any of 'em.

yeah I kind of agree. that early 90s period when Mariah and Whitney ruled and it was a thing to ride the scales, so to speak.

J-Lo? doesn't quite fit with the other 2

I'm a little sleep deprived right now, but I do remember him disliking J-Lo.

she's been the punching bag of critics her entire career. take a look at her metacritic page for both movies and music. it's a shit show. i always thought she had a few great songs though

Her debut album has aged surprisingly well.

as a pop fan i honestly like most of the songs from her first few albums.
>career highlights
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imo this was reminiscent of a more mature britney

He likes Janet Jackson, so fuck him.

>useless, talentless skank who would be a cashier at Target if her name were Janet Smith

I meant Mariah's debut album. J-Lo was like 30 when she started, so no derp she sounds more adult than Britney.

shes like the best ever
probs my fav artist i like her alot

janet makes better music than any of her peers are now? unbreakable was actually good
mariah's debut album aged ok, better than most from that time i guess

bait?

>mariah's debut album aged ok, better than most from that time i guess
Prolly because it's not overrun with dated early 90s production tricks.

Mariah's debut album is one of the greatest albums of all time.

i mean i guess. there are a few songs where it's really bad though.
she's topped it and she doesn't have any albums that are GOAT

Her voice is starting to give out now and Whitney was declining when she died. That kind of singing kills the hell out of your throat with enough time.

>shes like the best ever
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...Claire?

the past decade has been really unkind to her appearance

Grimes confirmed Sup Forumstant

>kills the hell out of your throat

shes like almost 50

Whitney was a fucking horrible drug addict.

yea but like... this should not happen in less than 10 years

Christgau wrote an entire essay on how much he wanted to fuck JJ.

By the standards of the average woman (meaning not able to afford the best cosmetics/doctors/plastic surgeons/personal trainers/dietitians money can buy), she's aged really well.

i guess the weight gain is just dragging down her appearance, she could lose 40-50 lb and look much better desu

(Dead)
(Dead)

WHY WERE THESE DELETED

WAS IT GRIMES??

it was grimes

It's called "gaining tons of weight" and "going to a random Hollywood plastic surgeon and telling him to give you the works plus a little extra on top of that"

i feel like she hasn't had that much work done
she just doesn't hold extra weight well at all
she for sure had her boobs done in 1999 tho

He also didn't like Britney because too white trash for his tastes.

Yes 10/10. Butterfly is also a masterpiece

The pop equivalent of Guns'N'Roses. Soared too high too fast and melted in the sun.

She's never topped the debut album. There is no song after the debut album that is better than There's Got To Be A Way or All In Your Mind.

Her debut album was absolutely massive in 1990; it was racing neck and neck with Like A Prayer for the top of the charts.

yeah that's pretty pathetic to be totally finished by the age of 25

Fantasy is one of my all time favorite songs, dunno what it says about me. I think this is like the original Emotion, if it came out today it'd be received like it anyway.
Christgau fucking sucks at reviewing dunno how he has a following.

Are you talking about Britney? Her latest album is actually a really fun listen and sorely underrated, I'm guessing because s4k didn't review it so it's not "in" with the "cool" kids

>Christgau fucking sucks at reviewing dunno how he has a following

Pretty much only because he was one of the first rock critics and way outlasted all his peers. Otherwise Lester Bangs owned him.

Britney went schizo for a while and also had kids; her career never recovered from it, although she does get a few small points for having them at a more proper age than half these pop skanks who have a kid at like 45. Other than that...

there are many songs better than those tho.. like the one on daydream

She has a show in Vegas that she rakes in $15M per year from

tbf Britney was the first person to really give Madonna a scare and make her feel insecure and past it. none of the various pop singers in the 90s like Mariah and Janet could dethrone her, but Britney finally managed it.

glory kinda sucked ngl but it had a couple decent songs. sorry but britney's just done and has been for like 6 years

nobody has dethroned madonna tho? especially not shitney

Madonna is just a sad old woman who can't accept that it is no longer 1988. Pay her no heed.

"I dated Madonna for a time. I was 24 and she was 33, a lot older than me, in fact the oldest woman I've ever been with. And she was good in bed."

-- Vanilla Ice

the definitive ranking: madge > janet > mariah > shitney

>glory kinda sucked
Yeah nah

I'm pretty sure Britney's been done since 2006.

this just screams "in about 8 years im gonna become a cokehead and shave my head"
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it had too much filler and too little killer

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quite a respectable string of hits and a few of them went #1 on the Hot 100

>make me
>private show
>slumber party
>what you need
>liar
>if I'm dancing

And even the "filler" was good dance pop

Arguably her best album by far

So nowadays it's a contest between the spooky skeleton, the Hillary mouthpiece, and two niggresses.

it's her best since blackout but that isn't saying much at all.......

>I don't see her on TMZ anymore so she's done
The real problem is her marketing hype machine is done, she's probably blacklisted or something

No Grimes?

Grimes is irrelevant outside of the containment threads on here.

Grimes is more relevant than Britney even to normies

>favorably received by most critics
>including Pitchfork who called it a damn fine album
>"that isn't saying much at all"

Obv she's not deep intelligent classical avant garde experimental folk bro but she's one of the all time pop queens

Here's your (You)

This

i was being serious. a ton of teenagers listen to grimes but they dont give a fuck about britney these days

ok

holy shit grimesfags destroyed

FUCKING DELET THIS

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Daydream is a 9/10 album
Mariah Carey is a 10/10 album

Mariah Carey is a 7 or 8 / 10 desu
daydream is like a good 8.5
butterfly is a good 8.3
rainbow is a good 5.7

I'm really disappointed that she chose to make bubblegum pop with that voice.