I'm the Tom Cruise of selling dope

>I'm the Tom Cruise of selling dope
>Don't send shooters for me, don't try it, nope
>My favorite Star Wars movie is A New Hope
>My rhymes are so dirty, I need some soap
Was he ahead of his time?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=2IH8tNQAzSs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2016
youtube.com/watch?v=e7HO62Hmkg4
youtube.com/watch?v=6lCiGXqsDto
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

West is only important because he marks the moment in mid 2000s popular culture when Millennials decided they weren't comfortable with the macho "Gangsta" rap black male stereotype and were more comfortable with the effeminate nerd backpacker mall going black male

Also, he's a pretty popular musician

And Steve Urkel was a pretty popular sitcom character for the same reason: nonthreatening to the audience

>Kanye has been one of the biggest artists on the planet for over a decade simply because he is because he "nonthreatening" like Urkel

Wew lad, get that autism checked out ASAP. This is one of the strangest arguments I have ever seen on Sup Forums.

Yeah, turns out people like Mickey Mouse more than they like actual rats

Shocking, isn't it?

then explain why did trap and drill become so big?

>People like Mickey Mouse because he is less threatening than an actual rat
>Trap is huge right now, but Millenials are somehow uncomfortable with gangsta rap

I really don't think you are going to salvage this point. It was poorly conceived to begin with. This argument has already gone in a nonsensical direction.

>so big
Neither one of those genres entered into mainstream popular culture like Gangsta rap did. Tupac and Biggie are household names. Name me a trap and drill artist my Grandma has heard of
You're just trying to evade the argument because you don't have a legitimate rebuttal. Cute

>Tupac and Biggie are household names

because they were murdered

So are Ice Cube and Snoop Dogg, try again.

>no trap and drill artist has ever been murdered

Your argument is an absurd theory which you have provided no proof for. People moved on from gangster rap for the same reason they moved on from every single other genre in popular music history. It got boring and stale. Furthermore, Trap is huge. Migos just put out a #1 single which was 100% trap and they're about to release a full album which will most assuredly sell like crazy. Future is one of the biggest artists on the planet. Drake put out two trap albums in 2015 which were massive.

>Drake
>trap

Can someone just please explain to me how awful trap music is ACTUALLY popular?

Why do I know who 21 Savage is?
Why do I know who Lil Yachty is?
Why does Migos have a #1 single?

Why am I not dead yet?

I've always taught Kanye was an autistic furfag, the only thing that masks it is that he is black.

You don't even wanna argue that WATTBA isn't a trap tape.

Right because Wikipedia says it is must be true.

The two albums he put out in 2015 were trap. I don't know what else to tell you. Furthermore, the point being argued is

"West is only important because he marks the moment in mid 2000s popular culture when Millennials decided they weren't comfortable with the macho "Gangsta" rap black male stereotype and were more comfortable with the effeminate nerd backpacker mall going black male"

Stop moving the goalposts and explain how the ONLY reason Kanye is important (despite being hugely famous and relevant for over a decade) is because he marks some arbitrary moment in time. Additionally, explain how millenials are somehow "uncomfortable" with gangster rap even though there have been many "gangster" rappers which have achieved great success since Kanye came on the scene in 2004. Do you realize that Lil Wayne is five years younger than Kanye and his entire reign on top of the rap game came years after Kanye entered the scene? How do you explain that? How do you explain Tha Carter III moving 1.1 million copies (the biggest album of that year, a gangster rap album) in it's first week in 2008? Had your theory just not taken effect yet?

>Trap is huge
>WATTBA is trap
No, it's not.
None of that is actually trap music though. It's something more along the lines of what happened to dubstep after Skrillix mutated it into brostep.

>It's something more along the lines of what happened to dubstep after Skrillix mutated it into brostep.

I have no clue what the fuck you're talking about man.

I just want to know why those motherfuckers have more money than I'll ever have. And why anybody on earth gives a mother FUCK that they exist.

>Lil' Wayne's success
youtube.com/watch?v=2IH8tNQAzSs
Emphasis on the effeminate "lil'".

>The two albums he put out in 2015 were trap.

Majority rules

You're just gonna have to accept that you're wrong, boy.

They were though. Stop focusing on the fact that it's Drake.

I don't give a fuck what people call his shitty music.

Either way, Drake is a tremendous faggot.

>They were though.

who's that bear next to carlton?

>I don't give a fuck what people call his shitty music.
Your 3 posts say otherwise.

That doesn't change the fact that he was a gangster rapper who achieved great mainstream success after the mid 2000s. There was a whole wave of "ganster" rappers which were huge in the late 00's/early 10's which you're pretending didn't exist (Jeezy, T.I. Wayne, Rick Ross etc).

What song is that from
Stop

Different orders of magnitude in terms of magnitude
>non threatening to the audience
That is trite non thinking rubbish, there are loads of buttmad Kanye haters.

No, sorry.
>effeminate nerd backpacker mall going black male
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2016
^ You can see it right here. The macho/tough/threatening black male stereotype has been exiled from mainstream culture

I did care, now I do not.

I have realized that it's a ridiculous topic to give a fuck about.

You're moving the goalposts.

"West is only important because he marks the moment in mid 2000s popular culture when Millennials decided they weren't comfortable with the macho "Gangsta" rap black male stereotype"

There are gangster rappers who became popular after West entered the scene. And furthermore, nobody has even come close to trying to argue the main point which was that this is the ONLY reason that he is important. Someone justify that.

All of the Lights

>moving the goalposts
No, I'm not. You're trying to cherry pick a few exceptions to the rule in attempt to move the argument away from the overall trend we're discussing here. One look at that Billboard link I posted proves what I claimed. Millennials aren't comfortable with the macho/tough/threatening "Gangsta" rap black male stereotype and that's why it's been eradicated from mainstream pop culture.

West was the first example of this phenomenon and it's the only thing worthy of noting about his career.

The trend is being eradicated for the same reason that all musical trends get eradicated. It got stale. Additonally, most major gangster rappers were born of the violent mid to late 80's/early 90's. Given that the national crime rate dropped by roughly 50% since then, it would only make sense that "gangster rap" would be less popular. Nothing remotely new or interesting is happening in gangster rap right now. I listened to DC4 by Meek Mill recently, for example. Back in 2003 it would have been a highly regarded, platinum record. In 2017 it just sounds boring, one dimensional and dated. I wasn't uncomfortable, it just sucked. If crime were to shoot back up to 92' levels over the next few years I guarantee you we would see a whole slew of new, exciting gangster rappers dominating the scene by 2025.

Bullshit, it happened because Millennials were uncomfortable with an intimidating black male stereotype.

Someone like Chief Keef from Chicago is nowhere to be seen in mainstream pop culture for this exact reason. Millennial audiences would rather listen to a weak/eliminate/nonthreatening black male like Wiz Khalifa or a Lil Yachty instead of a Lil Reese or RondoNumbaNine.

Lil reese and rondonumbanine make bad music at least make good examples. Besdies their music rondo is in prison endign his career. Explain gucci manes popularity among millenials

>Lil reese and rondonumbanine make bad music
So do Wiz Khalifa and a Lil Yachty, doesn't stop them from being in the Billboard top 100, and Gucci Mane isn't intimidating in the least.

>Chief Keef
Dropped from Interscope for being erratic as fuck. Has been charged with like 10 felonies since his first mixtape came out.
Lil Reese
Multiple felonies since he started rapping, plus a video of him beating up some chick came out
>RondoNumbaNine
Got sentenced to 39 years for shooting a cab driver execution style

It's pretty clear why the drill scene never took off in the mainstream. Major labels won't touch the talent anymore, and all of the best rappers end up dead or in jail.

lil yachty makes decent music but you right sbout the rest. Forgot the gucci clone isnt intimidating.

Bullshit, if it could have been sold to a young Millennial audience it definitely would have been.

Problem is the Millennial demographic had no appetite for it. Snoop was on trial for murder when he was on Deathrow records, which was being distributed by Interscope in the mid 90s.
>gucci isnt intimidating
No, he really isn't.
youtube.com/watch?v=e7HO62Hmkg4

>which was being distributed by Interscope in the mid 90s.
Which I should mention was Deathrow at their most popular.

Gucci killed a man and tried to bury the body, lets not lose sight of that.

Phil Spector killed somebody too, doesn't make him intimidating.

Both men are a hell of a lot more intimidating than Pac, that's for sure

Knowing what I know now about Tupac I'd have to agree with you, but in the early to mid 90's he was a definitely a black boogeyman.

Which is how all black males should be. The only cool black guys are the beta nerdy ones

>t. typical white Millennial scared of masculine black men
youtube.com/watch?v=6lCiGXqsDto

i really, really like the black guy in this thread, that for some reason thinks everyone's afraid of him

dr dre is the biggest poser ever

it was all for show
to a certain extent he really did become the mask but a mask is all it actually was

>t. typical white Millennial who'd run like a bitch if he saw a large black man walking towards him late at night
Tell me how hard life is is when they get your order wrong at Starbucks.
Doesn't change the fact that he was portrayed negatively in mainstream popular culture and it helped create an audience for his music.

wew you've got a serious inferiority complex going on

Uh oh, looks like Dr. Clownshoes is attempting to psychoanalyze me now. Hope his iPhone™ is fully charged or this might end with him breaking down in tears.

>being this defensive
you'll never make it out the hood like this user

Ah, too late. Looks like the tears have already started.

You should run and post this on Facebook, maybe someone else will pay attention to you too.

the only one who sounds upset ITT is you friend

You're probably right, no one on Facebook would pay attention to you either.

Pic related, your participation trophy. Because I care.

>nigger music

they're fun to listen to
u aren't