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unification into one country when edition

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>unification when
Never. We'll be sooner sucking Merkel's cock in ((( European Federation )))

Dobré ráno

Dobré ráno

Would like to join. Dobro jutro.

This would be just like 1871. New, strong country between the west and the Russkies. The rest is common knowledge.

Sudjba gejropejcev :)

can we get balts in?

Ukraine in V4 when?

Ukraine is already in V4 :^)

>implying half of Ukraine is not here already

>+friends
This kind of gay shit made us leave
Shit general


Zsálya+Bölcs

turani atok

c'mon mikloš

>Ukraine

>bullying Ukraine

Who would you rather see as your flatmate Lithuanian or Serbian?

How is this even a question. Lithuanian obviously

i don't know, i've never met one. what's their mentality. more russian or polish, or something completely else?

>bullying
Another person supporting worldwide separatism of any non-country wanting independance although has no justification on it other than artificial construct of wanna-be community that only serves as proxy wars territory for superpowers?
You truly must be special

Lithuanians? They're like Poles who speak a mix of Hungarian and Spanish

Ukrainians have a national identity since middle ages, they just used to be called Ruthenians.
Also by your logic Slovakia and Austria shouldn't exist

Could i pass as a local in your country?

my Vision

yes

rude

shitty trip m8

i am awake

hello

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>Hannibal is from Lithuania
>Hostel was in Slovakia
why are we surrounded by sick maniacs?

With our current PM? Never
If a right wing coup ever happens? Almost immediately.

I just want back into the cool Easter European club. Fuck that Balkan noise.

Good.

>right wing coup
implying we have right wing political options in croatia besides fascist ones

BUT

Fascism is a meaningless buzzword. It died 70 years ago. There is literally nothing fascist about today's extreme right. They are extreme, though. Trust me, I should know. I am one.

Poland, you know we'll never be able to escape the label whatever we do.

>tfw fresh snow

i meant of AHSP and such, they are clearly fascists, more than national socialists.

>Trust me, I should know. I am one.
HAHAHAHAHA, tips fedora

>Poland, you know we'll never be able to escape the label whatever we do.
Not with that kind of attitude we won't.
Although obviously it will take more than just polite reminders and it will need avoiding diseases that actual eastern europe suffers from.

How is smog in your city this fine morning lads?
200% of norm here

wtf, poland is fucked

Yes, poolacks are dumb

>Smederevo (Serbia) 494
they have lost of factories there, they produce metal and such.

I'm not shilling for the label, but explaining myself. Ask yourself, in 50 or 100 years, once we become a trade hub between Russian and Western civilizations, how are they going to view us? West will see us as civilized other which brokers deals and keeps the border. Russia is going to see us as tainted easterners who strayed too far to be brought back into the flock.
I don't mind, but they're never gonna call us western.

>Good
Oy vey, I wonder who could be behind this post

>once we become a trade hub between Russian and Western civilizations

we either integrate fully into West or get eaten by r*ssians
tertium non datur

Delusional.
EU won't exist soon and God only knows what'll happen to NATO. Time of regional and economic pacts is upon us Višegrad will have a leading role for us (I mean you, and us if we join)

>EU won't exist soon
Then we're really fucked.
We'll be Belaruse 2.0, supposedly neutral but in reality a playground for Russian and German interests.
Our only chance is strong and ever closer Union. Please read:
consilium.europa.eu/press-releases-pdf/2017/1/47244654122_en.pdf

You either be a playground or you'll stop being one and set up rules, but at this point it's hard for Poland to be anything relevant especially when you guys are scared so much from Russians you are litterally shiting your pants as if Putin will personally steamroll Poland in a tank from fucking Kalingrad. So much you'll sell your land to Amerifats to "protect you" and by "protecting" I mean setting up radars and shit so they could spy on Polish fucking citizen. Poland and in general any other european nation lost it's sovereignirity 70-80 years ago.

Us won't be irrelevant so soon, thus with EU out of the picture, we'll still have something behind us until we establish ourselves as not Russia.. (Germany can't fracture soon enough so their power diminishes)

We'll have to create smaller trade and military pacts thru Europe and create a joint trade zone with Russia so while they are occupied with Middle East, China and various *stans, poking us seems liek a counter productive and economically bad move.

To be frank, I think EU is a satanic project that needs to be stopped at all cost. I'd gamble at the possibility of Russia taking over rather than having the (((EU)))

Either way, I think civilizations and people have their destinies and our will be as a semi independent block between east and west. Fate will make it so.

As soon as EU crumbles we will be back to 1990s levels of poverty 2bh
We're very reliant on Germany when it comes to economy and almost completely export to EU
It's a much better scenario for us to influence EU from the inside than to have a shitshow of instability after EU and NATO are gone

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KEKS

>hurr durr jews echelon

user you are so informed and so well versed in the ways of the world. Can you get me tickets for next Bilderberg meeting?

No.

͏

I'm not denying any of what you said. Economically EU is important. Politically is pain in the ass and absolute disgrace to every country aside of Germany.
Never said anything about jews or whatever the fuck are you implying. Being paranoid about Russia overwhelming the world is fucking paranoid and retarded that's all I said.

high quality post as usual

>Politically is pain in the ass and absolute disgrace
But an alternative is to be a puppet of Russia and I won't take those chances

You speak like a person who learned about EU last year from the memes, and the same about USA desu. It's especially ironic when you put words "paranoid" and "retarded" in the same sentence.

And there's a difference between Russia taking over world and between it having ambitions and means to fuck with (or up) its former sphere of influence.

170, but they were warnings already and people are wearing surgical masks around

Surgical masks don't work
People here wear 3M masks but only if it's above 300%

We had state subsidies for new heating in homes and for isolation that helped a bit.
Will Poland have something similar?

Yes, but we need to genocide Silesians first to make Poland clean again

Well you can be either puppet of Russia or America.
In this world you don't really have a choice. You are always going to be a puppet unless something extreme happens.
Every nation has it's interests but it's not going to destabilize everything. EU is a fucking mess that's undeniable. You are basically selling your sovereignity for economical advatages. That's litterally what EU is. If European integration would continue the way it does we would found ourself in Confederation at some point ( I believe it would come within few decades, especially with EU army coming along. )
And Americans do spy on us. That IS the reality. Snowden wasn't Russian hoax or whatever your western propaganda has been feeding you. The whole "Russia is literal darnkess" conspiracy is fucking retarded. I've seen some report by German media claiming that behind those migrant attacks on women in Cologne are Russians which is absurd.

Looking at the map now, I see what you mean
>275
>219
>217

GOOD NIGHT ALT RIGHT

So first you say that a country can be either a puppet of Russia or America, but later in the same post you whine how we sell our sovereignty to EU for economical advantages?

Doesn't make much sense. I think we are more sovereign in a non literal sense as a part of EU than we would be outside. As a big group we can negotiate from a better position.

>And Americans do spy on us. That IS the reality.
Yes. So do Germans, Russians, Chinks, Frenchmen etc. Every country has its intelligence services.
>Snowden wasn't Russian hoax
No, he's just a narcissistic faggot.
>Russia is literal darkness
Russian government is an absolutely atrocious example of how things should not be done and if you care your country at all you should have nothing but contempt and disgust for it. It's everything that's wrong with our own government but magnified. And even if you didn't give two shits about Russians and approached their foreign ambitions cynically "well they have right to their own interests" that's still no reason to want to fall under them.
>German media claiming that behind those migrant attacks on women in Cologne are Russians which is absurd
What was it? Bild? Or some blog? In any case it's unlikely but not entirely as absurd as you'd think. Russians do use the migrant problem to help undermine west, at least in their disinfo campaign.

What the hell is wrong with Mexico
>865
>999
>500

All the industry that went there from US :^)

>Trump will make Mexico Clean Again

I mean I guess but we are puppets either way so what's the real difference if there is any. I myself consider(ed) EU as American puppet until this election in US. It's gonna be interesting to watch how will things spin out.
1. Alright. Sure but they don't bullshit all the time about it. Americans are litteral hypocrites. They say how it's important to trust each other and lie to it's allies which they are undermining and all the talk about liberty and stuff and yet they are EU's ( and it's citizens ) it's "big brother". The problem is that the day we would only dare to question our alliance they would use all the gathered data against us. There is no flexibility. We are litterally kneeling and sucking their cock cheerfuly while they talk bullshit about our sovereignity.
2. Alright, I mean I don't know him personally so I can't judge but either way he wasn't lying and making shit up. Ande what he revealed was and is pretty scary. Litterally 1984 Orwellian type of shit.
3. And how it should be done? There is no "right" way. There are only different ways. What is right and what not is personal preference and based on their elections it's not like they are getting fucked out of parliament and are prone to western propaganda ( which exists no matter how much you believe ČT1 is telling you the truth ). As someone who can value National Conservative values I don't hate them. They aren't the best but nothing is.
4. I don't know but I've seen it. If I find a like I'll post it later on. And yes it is fucking absurd. Surely Putin is paying sandniggers to rape women in Cologne. You must be asbolutely out of your mind to think that is the truth. I mean seriously come the fuck on now. And also why wouldn't they. From conservative stand-point - accepting mass immigration is wrong. Which is something Russian goverment doesn't have to like and cannot support with values they hold.

>Alright. Sure but they don't bullshit all the time about it. Americans are litteral hypocrites. They say how it's important to trust each other and lie to it's allies which they are undermining and all the talk about liberty and stuff and yet they are EU's ( and it's citizens ) it's "big brother". The problem is that the day we would only dare to question our alliance they would use all the gathered data against us. There is no flexibility. We are litterally kneeling and sucking their cock cheerfuly while they talk bullshit about our sovereignity.
I don't really recall western officials, US or otherwise, reassuring us that they don't have intelligence assets here or that they respect our sovereignty. Trust is a good thing between people, but countries will always need to ensure their security through other means as well. If anything, Russia is worse than US in that respect.
>Ande what he revealed was and is pretty scary. Litterally 1984 Orwellian type of shit.
I don't think you know what "literally" means. That intelligence services can spy on you if the state thinks it's warranted is nothing new. The difference is in what sort of mechanisms are in place to prevent abuse. Americans had those, too.
If you mean surveillance of internet, that's common sense, and corporations are steps ahead of government in that respect, in both practice and ambition (incidentally it was EU that made at least some efforts to protect privacy of its citizens from Google and the like). Cyberspace was sheltered by being domain of nerds that politicians and national security specs didn't understand, but that couldn't have lasted forever.
>There is no "right" way.
kek
Alright, even assuming there is not a single objectively Right way, there are definitely ways that are wrong, and being ruled by a mob that doesn't hesitate to murder good people just to ensure there's nobody to challenge its malpractices is definitely one, no matter how much fake quotes and infographics it spreads.

>western propaganda ( which exists no matter how much you believe ČT1 is telling you the truth )
Actually our national television is fairly good quality reporting. You can tell that the editors have their own opinions but they are doing their best to remain professional.
Although I can see how someone with prepared opinion would feel that it's "propaganda".
And of course that doesn't mean that various interest groups aren't trying to spin their own narratives to get public on their side.
>National conservative values
Good for you. I am partial to conservative values myself, and I think they are vastly more important than national ones. In either you are a stooge if you think that Russia is any better than USA when it comes to either.
>Surely Putin is paying sandniggers to rape women in Cologne.
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job on your reading comprehension.
What I was saying is that spreading disinfo about migrants (and towards migrants) is something that Russia could be doing, after all they accuse western NGOs from being disinfo proxies in Russia so why wouldn't they do the same? Whether they actually do it is another question and one national security services should seek answers to.
>accepting mass immigration is wrong. Which is something Russian goverment doesn't have to like and cannot support with values they hold.
Yes, I'm sure everything Russia does and says regarding migration is guided by their moral conviction and genuine interest of wellbeing and security of Europe.

>who you would like to see in /V4/

only if you nuke Wien and Linz

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No nukings.
We'll just allow and encourage undesirables to leave.

sure just buy them train tickets to Cologne
its not like they wont find friends and relatives there

>still haven't been to 2 of these countries
Sorry, friends

I think I'll stick with Bavaria, myself.

We'll get to that as soon as the Bratislava metro is finished :^)

>not hyperloop to Wien

Alright I'm not gonna debate you forever - I honestly don't have that much time anyways - I'm gonna post this pic - so you would understand where I am coming from and I don't think we will have any sort of agreement on the west. And I have tendencies to extaggerate sometimes, it wouldn't be smart to take everything some faggot says on Sup Forums litterally. So we may have little bit of misunderstanding there. What I'm saying is that I can't really hate Putin for being protective especially with NATO creeping around and now potentionally include Ukraine and Georgia and topping off Russian allies and friendly nations in middle east and Africa ( and we have to agree that west has done terrible things which made middle east what it is which is undeniable ). I don't buy the bullshit about free world Americans talk about.

>people in my state (upper austria) fell for the "economics professor knows his economics" shit

there is plenty of marxist economics professors here and I bet he was one aswell

Fair enough.
I get the feeling that you idealize Putin a bit too much and by the same token demonize west. But hey, you're welcome to your opinion.

probably silesian too
did you know that hitler was silesian?

political quizes, hehe

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thanks

>We should just nuke our enemies, it's a waste of time to try and deal with them

wtf.

>Left-Leaning Anti-Government Isolationist Nationalist Reactionary

noooooooooo ;_; im fucking leftie

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there is absolutely nothing wrong with leaning left providing it serves the advancement of our peoples
bomb them for jiae

these political quizzes are such a meme

>The preservation of abtirsi and traditions is the purpose of this site, and to raise awareness of the history and ancestry of all Somali people

what

>You are a: Right-Leaning Libertarian World-Federalist Nationalist Liberal

Damn, it's a spot on 2bh

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