Blue=Countries that are part of Western civilization

Blue=Countries that are part of Western civilization
Orange=Countries that are partially Western but also have significant amount of non-Western culture (Amerindian culture, Middle Eastern, etc)
Gray=Countries that are definitely not part of Western civilization

this is the same map for number of homos and furries desu

>Belarus is fully western, but Ukraine isn't

>Cuba
into the thrash it goes

Isn't Ukraine a bunch of Tatar half-breeds?

actually 3rd worlders are the gayest and have really fucked up littel boy-raping stories al the time

also 3rd worlders have sex with goats, at least furries dress up but they still have sex with humans

>The fucking Philippines

Blue=Countries that are part of Western civilization
Orange=Countries that are partially Western but also have significant amount of non-Western culture (Amerindian culture, Middle Eastern, etc)
Gray=Countries that are definitely not part of Western civilization
Japan=Countries that are part of japanese civilization

I did mean to color Bolivia gray since they're almost totally Indian shit with no Western influence. Didn't realize it until I'd already posted the thread. Mybad.

He's right and as I understand it, Belarus is mostly just eastern Poland.

3rd worlders arn't proud of it
meanwhile you hold conventions for it

you are a knower

>actually 3rd worlders are the gayest
Lol gaymarriage

>and have really fucked up littel boy-raping stories al the time
Lol Catholic priests/football coaches

>also 3rd worlders have sex with goats,
Lol Welsh/Scots

>at least furries dress up but they still have sex with humans
And now we know who was behind this post.

>as I understand it, Belarus is mostly just eastern Poland

Russia is a part of Russian civilization, you dumb western shit

And you're just north Czechia. Your point?

>Greece
>the founder of Western civilization
>not dark blue

kek look at the butthurt 3rd worlders immediately coming out of the woodwork, did you feel targeted by my post ?? i knew you would

Bosnia and Albania should be mixed the way Turkey is mixed

kazakhstan must be orange

>Papua New Guinea
>Western

pick 1

Suriname isn't Latin American

Russians are confused as fuck and don't know what they are. They've been fighting over their own cultural identity since 18th century.

you are confusing """""christian"""" civil/value with modern civil/value

Are there any real Japs on this website as opposed to proxies/English teachers?

even we aren't pretentious enough to pretend france is purely part of french civilization and we have to acknowledge the romans came there first and christianized and civilized us
why can't you

>Australian education

> brazil
> western

Russians were civilized and Christianized by the Greeks (Byzantines) but then they got Mongol raped and became of steppe horde who invade and enslave their neighbors every once in a while.

Singapore should be Sinic / Islamic / Western

Brazil doesn't have much Indian culture though, does it? Most of their Indians died from European disease early on except the ones deep in the Amazon.

>being in denial

>Russia
>civilization

>Japan gets its own category

Well, it was at one time anyway.

But they're degenerate niggers

>kazakhstan
>islamic

I fixed your map and added a third group which have their cake and eat it too.

Idiot. Greece kickstarted the Greco-Roman civilization, not European which articulated itself with the first crusade.

Because there is no French civilization. But there is a unique Russian one.

Chile is developed but that doesn't mean it's western, Uruguay and Brazil are way more western than them, Paraguay is by no means western, neither DR or Belize or CR
Also, Cuba is not fucking western, i bet you fags don't even know about the country and only know that it has high HDI, proving how shitty HDI is

Japan should be its own thing.

Isn't Kazakhstan majority muslim though

>albania is gray
>armenia is orange

Let's say fair enough for Mexico even if I'd personally view it as ridiculous not to be counted as a full participant in Western civilization, we've certainly contributed to it as a nation as much as many of the ones in blue in that map, but thi isn't consistent criteria, how is Colombia more Amerindian than Chile for instance?

>BELARUS

You're wrong. I wanted to do a rebuttal of all your points, but then I realized I can basically sum it up as having strong western style elites which aren't going away.
Brazil is by no means western. It's a failed state with some white people in the south west.

Yes. Go genocide them some more.

Indian culture is pretty damn central to Mexico, down to the foods, holidays/religious festivals, and other traditions.

>having strong western style elites which aren't going away.
You really talk out of your ass, right? Every country in Latin America is like that, you're basing it on how developed the country is, which is pretty fucking stupid and you should probably kys

>unsure with singapore because you're too small for the human eye to perceive

Brazil, for example, is larping one. It's not genuine.

And I'm not arguing that am I? I'm saying | would personally disagree as nonetheless Mexico has contributed to Western civilization (arts, literature, even science) as much as many of the other countries included there.

What I'm saying is the criteria is not consistent, eg Colombia vs Chile.

kek

Why are they so few Hindu and Jap civs?

>Mexico has contributed to Western civilization
While under Spain, yes. But you aren't and the country is transforming more and more into the aztec dream.

* there

>While under Spain, yes. But you aren't and the country is transforming more and more into the aztec dream.
South American coalition army to reconquer and cleanse Argentina when?

Pictured is 19th century Mexico, not under Spain, and what is this "Aztec dream" some jab at beheading memes?

Let me put it this way, Mexico has a father, Spain/Europe, and a mother, Aztec/Mesoamerica, we are still part of the family.

because we east aryans failed in expanding lebensraum

>Let me put it this way, Mexico has a father, Spain/Europe, and a mother, Aztec/Mesoamerica, we are still part of the family.
What are relations between Spain and Mexico like now? Allies?

The thing is, unlike the Middle East or East Asia or India, Russia has no high culture of its own; the Russian language was not refined enough for literature until the 19th century, and the upper class were Frenchboos who considered the commoners dumb Asiatic peasants.

explain brazil, argentina and chile blue but Russia and Ukraine Orange

You're still technically under a Spanish elite. Oh, right, they're called "Mexicans", sure. Mhm.
But this elite is inefficient and people and their culture went the other way too far.

And the whole identity crisis Russians have been suffering since then is basically a conflict of the Europeanized aristocracy versus the Asiatic steppe horde lower classes, there being times (like the communist era) when the latter were in the ascendancy.

>western englobe a shitload of unrelated countries
>japan create it own for itself alone because they cant deal with the fact that they are basically a mix of china/corea 2.0

>Latin America
>Western
>Russia
>Western
Kys
Also what a retard you should be to mark us, the biggest opponent of the West for ages as partially western? Retard.
Also Belarus and Ukraine are also not western at all. In western Ukraine there are some influences of Europe, but you know, there is a war between pro-western Ukrainians and anti-western right now.

Relations with Spain are good, what does that have to do with anything? Mexico broke off diplomatic relations with Spain for decades whilst the Franco regime lasted precissely because it cared about Spain.

Not all of us ethnic Spaniards are a part of the elites and what do you mean about going the other way too far? If anything we need to work harder on integrating and mantaining alive indigenous culture.

>as partially western
We kind of share a religion. You also had all European artistic movements. Your baroque is a thing to behold. You always painted using western techniques and your classical music is western. Your elite spoke French and were of German descent. To say Russia, as much as it's breaking away finally, isn't western, would be lying.

japanese civ is an exclusive club for elites, my man

The Japanese got science from the West, amongst many other things.

Lenin was a mongolized Jew

Western civilization broadly means "The Christian religion+Greco-Roman philosophy". In that sense, those countries have at least some of these qualities, but not necessarily others and may also have significant influence from non-Western cultures.

>including azerbaijan but not armenia
nigger what the fuck are you doing

Shit map
It's not divided by religion. You should color Kazakhstan and other ex soviet Middle Asia with the same color as Russia, all the CIS share pretty one civilization.
Marking Senegal and Indonesia the same color is retarded. You know, Latin America and majority of Africa share the same religion but they are totally different. You should color all the SEA in one color, black Muslim countries should be colored the same color as Africa ones, they are absolutely different from Arabs. Only Sudan and Somalia are kind of arabized.
>Papua New Guinea
>estern
Kek, you should colour it in the middle color between SEA and Africa.
Chill, Malaysia is 2nd world, not 3rd.

meme muslim, post-muslim or whatever. and thankfully this fucking cancer is dying out within younger generations. two biggest mistakes of kazakh nation: 1. way way back in time some khan or whatever let in bashkir muslim preachers to steppes and 2. adding -stan to country name.

We're colonized by USA.

>You also had all European artistic movements. Your baroque is a thing to behold. You always painted using western techniques
Not really since Russia was not involved in Renaissance at all. This was central part of European history. At that time Russia (more properly Grand Duchy of Muscovy) was barely known in Europe or considered part of it.

But then Orthodox Balkan states were not involved in Renaissance either because Turk rape.

You share a religion with Ethiopia and all Russian cultural movements, despite borrowing influences from all over the world, are without exception heavily rooted in russian culture. And every time you European shits tried to colonize us or destroy our culture you crawled back crying bloody tears. So you can fuck right off.

>meme muslim, post-muslim or whatever. and thankfully this fucking cancer is dying out within younger generations

>younger generations
If anything it should be the older generation who were raised under state atheism that should be more secular. I've heard from various sources that Wahabi propagandists have been trying to penetrate Central Asia.

>destroy our culture you crawled back crying bloody tears

Commies already took care of that desu.

Russian civilization is totally different from European one and from East Asian one, from Hindu civilization etc. Why don't you acknowledge it, ignorant fucktard? Let me explain to you. There are few cultural areas, or civilization in the world. European/Western, Russian, Indian, East Asia, Latin America, etc etc. We have our own, mixed on:
Slav cultural origins
Influence of Byzantium
Influence of Mongols
Influence of Turkic peoples
Western influence (since the 18th century and Peter the Cuck)
Soviet Period (most important for modern Russians)
All that has formed our unique culture, spreading from Belarus and Ukraine in the West to Vladivostok in the east, and from Norilsk in the north to Kyrgyzstan in the South. All the ex USSR, also we influenced Balkan countries like Serbia or Bulgaria.

Are you retarded? Stop crying and read what's actually being written. I never personally invaded you.
So you admit to a lot of European influences. There's many great Russian men like Mendeleev who participated in project of Western European science. Your rules, Catherine and Peter the Great both changed Russia to be more like the west, which influenced it immensely.

You can't cut ties with the west completely. I understand the necessity of a Eurasian identity and I agree with it because your soul is not European. But you were heavily influenced by the west. We're on an anonymous imageboard. You can admit it.

They didn't kill enough of you, unfortunately.

strangely, no

with my circle of friends and people my age in general we constantly joke and say shit that would get our heads cut off in muslim countries like iran or the united kingdom or whatever.

>I've heard from various sources that Wahabi propagandists have been trying to penetrate Central Asia.

yeah i wont lie that isn't the case, but it's ultra rare and thankfully our SPECIAL FORCES or whatever are really really ridiculously brutal with them.

dude can you answer to that for me, im kinda at loss

Yep, called it.

>200 years since Pushkin, Russians still can't agree on their own identity as a culture and even argue over it on anonymous anime-themed image boards.

What? Are you retarded? Crusades have nothing to do with your civilization. Civilization is all about culture. You civilization appeared when barbarians became romanized and their culture mixed with roman creating your civilization.

Is this just burger education? Moldavia? Bosnia? Albania? Where you ever close to this shitholes? It's a reason why they call it 'The balkans of XY'
Those are uneducated, low developed and western values hating clansmen. Croatia is fine blue but Serbia / Kosovo / Romania / Bulgaria / FJROM should be orange and Bosnia / Montenegro / Albania grey.
If south africa is orange, then belaruse has to be as well.
Also, no south korea? That place is basicly 100% american culture copying and as previous posters pointed out, armenia? orange at least
Also Also fucking zyprus?!
Also Also Also Cuba not orange?

Russia is more like...how do I put it? Latin America in the 19th century when their upper class were waging nonstop civil wars over Jacobinism vs pro-Church monarchism, while the illiterate Indian masses were barely affected and continued their lives as they always did.

No, that's when Rome was finally ending. The culture that followed in Europe afterwards defined itself as a civilization with crusades which signal the start of technological strength, (somewhat) coherent vision of an ingroup and values we can all agree on.
It's the same reason Russia has no civilization. You have a culture, but you're still struggling to break free and define your own new thing. I fully expect Russia to define itself by grabbing all the land westwards to Serbia as its protectorate and that'll be the defining moment for a new civilization.

Yes, but during soviet period we expelled our European oppressors and created soviet culture which is our own high culture based on ordinary people traditions, not the aristocracy culture.

>and I agree with it because your soul is not European
There we can all agree.

The European identity had more-or-less coalesced by the late Middle Ages.

>I never personally invaded you.
Plenty of your ancestors did. With the same result every single time.
>European influences
Cultures always influence each other. And European influence on Russian culture is miniscule
>Mendeleev who participated in project of Western European science
Lol, he never worked in Western Europe, you moron. He lived all his life in Russia.
>Your rules, Catherine and Peter the Great both changed Russia to be more like the west
Educate yourself, it is embarrassing to read. Both of them were incredibly anti-western and pro-Russian.
>You can't cut ties with the west completely.
We wish we could. Unfortunately, we have to livee on the same planet with cancer you are.
>Eurasian identity
This 'identity' only exists in your deranged mind. There is one identity in Russia - 'Russian'. Too bad that it's existence upsets westerners so much.

You guys share religion with overwhelming majority of African countries and all the Latin America. Should you admit Zimbabwe a western country? Also things you describe are a culture of our 18-19th century aristocracy who spoke French, hated and enslaved ordinary Russians and were in fact a colonists of Europe in Russia, draining our country while feeling themselves European (and often they were Europeans ethnically). In 1917 we expelled them all and created our own high culture.

It would be very nice if you kept this "wonderful" civilization of yours to yourselves and did not spread it around. We're still recovering from when you decided to share this paradise.

...

HEY

the proud welsh race would NEVER fuck goats

our seed is made only for the most beautiful of sheep

Europe

Anglo world

Latinamerica

Turquid civilisation

Arab civilisation

Iranian civilisation

India

Sino civilisation

South Asia

Japan

Black world

>Your rules, Catherine and Peter the Great both changed Russia to be more like the west
>Educate yourself, it is embarrassing to read. Both of them were incredibly anti-western and pro-Russian.

>Peter the Great
>guy who forced everyone to wear European clothing

>muslim countries like iran or the united kingdom
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