This is Kubrick's best movie

This is Kubrick's best movie.

1. Eyes Wide Shut
2.Shining
3. Full Metal Jacket
4.The fucking rest

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Why did Kubrick die right after he finished the movie?

1. Barry Lyndon
2. Eyes Wide Shut

Then the rest. The Shining is midway on the list and Full Metal Jacket is closer to the bottom.

You didn't like Dr. Strangelove? I liked it better than his dramas, I don't think he has the range for it. He could either bave been a dp or made comedies.

I think dr. Strangelove is the best movie he did and everything else kinda just became pulp he made.

I am surprised with Full Metal Jacket

>You didn't like Dr. Strangelove?
Huh? I didn't mention Dr Strangelove. I like all of his films, save for his pre-Killing ones, which I haven't seen.

I don't care for full metal jacket. Drags out, silly photography, I cared about none of the characters at all. The suicide scene was edgy for the sake of edgy. Platoon is the best Vietnam movie imo.

Spartacus my fave. Seems like a black sheep opinion around here

I think Full Metal Jacket is overrated but Platoon outright sucks.

Nah, it's an internal struggle played out on screen using characters and is interesting because one can identify with both sides of the coin.

You're both idiots, The Deer Hunter is best Vietnam kino.

> Platoon is the best Vietnam movie imo.
i agree

Not interesting in the slightest.
I didn't say anything about the Deer Hunter. Maybe you're an idiot too.

>an hour and a half of wedding scene
>pow camp is the only memorable scene

Nope. Just skip to the roulette scene then turn it off because you've seen the deer hunter.

>wedding scene was plebfilter

1. Dr Strangelove
2. Clockwork
3. The shins

Eyes wide shut was so bad Kubrick literally died

I sat through the entire movie. The purpose of the wedding scene was to stress the innocence of the main characters and the way that vietnam took it from them later. Most 70s movies have an enormous pacing problem exactly like the deer hunter. It could have been done in 20 minutes, not an hour and a half.

>Most 70s movies have an enormous pacing problem exactly like the deer hunter.
I agree with you on the Deer Hunter but you're veering off into retard territory.

Come on, a ton of 70s movies have paving issues and you know it. It is part of what is noticable about the decade.

Name 3 others

No, you just have a shit attention span. You might as well throw in every decade of film before the 70's as well, as it seems you were weaned on blockbusters.

Lmao no I don't, I watched tons of long movies even at a young age. My favorite movie has bee the Good the Bad and the Ugly since I was 8 and watched it with my grandpa.

cookoos nest has an extra 20 minutes on it

exorcist has 20 extra minutes


So does Alien

so does kramer vs kramer

But you're right in that none of them do it as insanely badly as Deer Hunter.

Also if you ever get the chance watch The Duelists, it was Ridley Scotts first movie. It's pretty good, also slow but good. The jist is that there is an officer with a death wish who duels constantly and a lower rank one sent to stop him who has a strong sense of honor. They end up dueling 5 times over 10 years and a war with all different weapons. It's a movie that women wouldn't understand.

>Lmao no I don't, I watched tons of long movies even at a young age.
That's not what I said. I said you were weaned on blockbusters. That is, you might have seen different styles of movies in your lifetime, but you're most used to Hollywood blockbusters.
>My favorite movie has bee the Good the Bad and the Ugly since I was 8 and watched it with my grandpa.
Shitty favorite movie. And your grandpa was a homosexual.
>cookoos nest has an extra 20 minutes on it
>exorcist has 20 extra minutes
>So does Alien
>so does kramer vs kramer
What does that mean? How is it you think this serves as legitimate criticism? Again, you just have a shitty attention span.
>But you're right in that none of them do it as insanely badly as Deer Hunter.
I'm right about something I didn't say. Thanks.

He was pulling Tom Cruise away from Scientology and was punished for it

>implying it wasn't the Government shutting him up about the moon landing

I like points to be concise. I prefer John Locke to Voltiare. I dislike fluff over substance. I'd rather watch Chinatown than Godfather because Godfather drags out far more. Chinatown has the mystery to keep you involved.

>The suicide scene was edgy for the sake of edgy.

Are you fucking goddamn retarded? Suicide in the military is a very real thing, the whole fucking point is that the hyper masculinity of the army is heartless and cold for the sake of efficiency and people like Pyle get weeded out with often tragic results.

You really fucking make me sick. I don't even like FMJ that much but Jesus people really will say anything when they're anonymous won't they?

Yeah, good thing too. Now he won't snap and get the actual men killed. It was lame and I don't care about suicide in the military.

am i the only one who honest to god thought the shining was terrible

Shining is dogshit with iconic imagery, not an entertaining, scary, or interesting movie in the slightest.

Full Metal Jacket has 25 good minutes, the rest is filler.

Yes.

>Depictions of things I don't care about are edgy

I take my meanness back, you're just a typical dope.

evidently i'm not, thank you based user

Yep, why'd you think that?

>look at this statistic

Wow, so deep I can really read into that subtext. Thanks for being edgy and political. That really takes some skill.

You might think you sound smart, but you're actually a flaming homosexual. You could argue Chinatown is just as poorly paced as any other typical 70's film, but what keeps you engaged is the material. It's almost as if the length of a film and how slowly it unfolds isn't by itself indicative of quality...

It's cozy but it falls apart at the end and isn't really scary. Psychological horror doesn't translate to the screen that well but I think it was alright.

Wow, you're right. It's almost as if you finally understand exactly what I've been saying. Good job.

Not him

But I'll go back and watch it due to its legacy. Often I find myself not getting the full brunt of classics the first time around, so I'll watch them again, so I've seen it four times now. It's just not scary in the slightest, and I've taken into account all of the little supposed quirks, the shifting of the hotel layout, the sexual abuse back story, the meaning of the ending, it's just a long, slow, sterile movie. I respect the cinematography and the acting, but the characters don't move me in the slightest, the story is a crawl, and Jack Nicholson gets annoying with all his Jackness, he doesn't have the subtlety he had in CCN.

You're a ham, sir. Mentioning what he did in a sarcastic tone does not make it edgy.

What is supposed to be scary about it is the isolation. Put yourself into the shoes of the woman and child. You would be completely helpless against the man and trapped. It is about the isolation and weakness of women and children.

I'm saying that calling a movie too long or saying it has pacing problems is a non-criticism. Maybe it went over your head or maybe you're having trouble following a argument for this long due to your ADD.

It's pretty edgy. Let me make a war movie, wait I'm an art tist, better put a statistic and political spin on it for the award bait.

I just want to let you know that literally every single thing that has ever been created can be deconstructed and dismissed with the style of logic you're choosing. It's pretty sad when people can't even express themselves without it being dismissed in such an asinine manner.

How didn't you like 8-Ball, Cowboy, Animal and based Joker. The best thing were the characters.

What did they mean by this?

That he would betray his wife.

The rainbow is his marriage.

FUCK MY SISTER

Objectively only 2001: A Space Odyssey has made the Sight and Sound poll top 10. By that measure it is Kubrick's greatest.

Pacing goes hand in hand with the writing and length of shots. The length of shots and scenes all go into the overall length and one can easily manage the pacing by manipulating those two elements. It is a critisism. Scenes must end either in a negative or positive. They have to go somewhere. They could end by raising a new question to keep the audience interested, or they could end on an action. Pacing is a critisism because a good film maker knows how to make each scene count and keep the audience interested. I do enjoy movies where I can read into the characters thoughts and subtext and I enjoy ones where there are new questions raised by each scene. The Deer Hunter wastes it's first hour and a half trying to convey innocence in the men and then their thoughts are entirely too obvious through the rest of the movie to ever watch it a second time. It is over rated and it's pacing is terrible.

Fuckin faggot he meant like a leprechaun and there's a pot of gold and Tom Cruise will find it

Why do hipsters always say a director's worst movie is his best or their favorite?

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10/10 production design

2001 is all visuals and no story. When I saw it I thought Kubrick was probably better off just being a dp.

Not even close OP. Killing. POG, 2001, Strangelove, all better. In fact Eyes is in his bottom five. Still great

I think Full Metal Jacket might be a bit better than the Shining, but other that that I absolutely agree with you.

Because when there's 7 billion people on the planet, you have to make your mark somehow.

Chinatown is a bad movie because its pacing, much like many films of the era, is too slow, and lingers on a mystery that could have been summed up in 10 minutes. Truly a terrible movie.

>Eyes Wide Shut
>worst movie
Slow down. It's not his best but it's not his worst either. There's a lot of really really interesting stuff in the movie that everyone (including me) missed when watching like the daughter getting kidnapped at the end.

>2001: A Space Odyssey
Honestly didn't get the part about the black monolith, should I just rewatch it? Read the book?

Best to worst Kubrick official list

Clockwork Orange
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Shining
Dr Strangelove
Full Metal Jacket
Spartacus
Eyes Wide Shut

Not with the ammount of subtext. You can read into the characters thoughts in absolutely every scene and they aren't obvious until after the first watch. The first time the suspense is incredible. You as an audience member are desperately trying to figure out exactly what is going on, and they add in danger on Jack's part for even looking which adds to the mystery of it. This is because the screenplay itself is actually good.

pleb desu

Has anyone noticed that as soon as this line is said the tone of the movie completely changes?

>I like the movie
Good for you, but all of that is subjective. It was far too slowly paced to be suspenseful.

He's just being facetious because I think The Deer Hunter is written and filmed like shit.

Is Kubrick the Kubrick of our generation?

It isn't really slow at all. Every scene either ends on danger or raises a question- exactly as I described.

No, Kubrick is not the Kubrick of our generation. The Kubrick of our generation is Kubrick, not Stanley Kubrick.

Nope, I agree with you there. It's your non-criticisms about pacing that I'm arguing with.

I just checked the Kubrick rubric and it turns out Kubrick actually is the Kubrick of our generation.

Has anyone read something about Eyes Wide Shut how apparently if there's a scene in the movie that goes on for awhile without any cuts if you use a video player and "zoom in" you'll see a completely different scene happening the backround? I tried it once on different scenes and it was basically just watching uninteresting scenes of backround extras. Did I get memed on?

But it could have been done much faster. Speed doesn't affect subtext, and brevity is the soul of wit. Chinatown is witless.

Objectively most correct ranking:

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Dr. Strangelove
3. Barry Lyndon
4. Paths of Glory
5. Eyes Wide Shut
6. The Shining
7. Full Metal Jacket
8. Clockwork Orange
9. Spartacus
10. the rest

What do you believe makes it his best movie?

This is what happens when Jesus Christ hasn't entered your heart as Lord and savior.

Wow, I didn't even realize that Chinatown was 171 minutes. I just looked, I figured it would be like 90 minutes. Damn, I guess that's what happens when a movie is well written and shot. If it's well written and shot then people won't be begging for something tk happen that actually matters like for the first 90 minutes of Deer Hunter.

Clockwork is by far his best film, you smelly Samuel.

Lol these plebs

Barry Lyndon
Eyes wide shut
2001
Paths of glory
The shining
Dr. strangelove
A clockwork orange
Full metal jacket
Lolita
Spartacus
The killing


This is objective.

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Chinatown is very slow and boring though. You can't refute this airtight criticism. 171 minutes? Feels like a month. That's what happens when you drag out a 10 minute story.

Was it murder?

Felt like 90 minutes to me. That's what happens when something actually happens in each scene instead of a 20 minute Pollack dance scene that affects nothing.

Chinatown is the greatest screenplay of all time.

Clockwork is edgy shit for the sake of edgy shit. I turned it off when he got captured.

Again, he is being facetious for the sake of arguement.

And if it is so good then why did it lose the Oscar to Godfather 2?

Well sadly you'd probably argue with me forever before getting the point. So I give up.

Btw, Chinatown is middlebrow.

>Clockwork is edgy shit for the sake of edgy shit

Right, because violence and rape has no place in film. Stupid fool.

I get the point but I love to argue.

because the Oscar committee has always been right...? Is this a joke?

It was good in the Swede Dragon Tattoo. You know, with an actual story behind it.

I'll let you in on a secret: there's no real argument, just a contradiction.

Yes

It's like when your dad says "If x is so great then why is he dead?"

Are you really this fucking dense?

MIND = BLOWN

Yes, I didn't care for anything about the movie. It got that they were going to 1984 the main guy but I already didn't care because the movie had been a piece of shit up until that point.

Holy fuck you have zero information about the movie you're complaining about.

Wow so deep such wow

edge gets controlled then no more edge

art

Ive figured out Eyes Wide shut, Stanley Kubrick was a genius, illuminati level genius
It's not what most youtube videos or websites say it is. You have to watch it with a fine tooth comb, with an open mind...

Everything you think you believe about the illuminati is wrong, a kind of charade , the whole movie is a fake. Eyes wide shut is a movie where 99.9% will never understand unless they are guided or watch it 100X times as I have frame by frame!

Kubrick completely figured out the illuminati, and he blew the whistle, while predicting his own death, putting it all on Film. This is the work of a great man.

If you think the movie is about a secret society sex cult you are wrong. If you think its only about about marriage and infidelity you are only seeing 0.1% of the story.

The actual story is beautiful. It's a blue print, a modern day bible and guide book for those who are awake enough to read it.

I can help you solve the puzzle, but you have to be ready to walk through the door.

If you believe in shape shifters they are in the movie also