The point of these threads is to encourage people to look for new and interesting music. We do this by listening to and ideally discussing albums we've never heard before. Many of us already listen to new music daily, these people are in it to venture "out of their comfort zone" by listening to albums they otherwise wouldn't have, or just to have a good time.
>whered all the dolphins go tho Bears. It was the bears.
Isaac Sanchez
ooh nigga
its that time of the month, period time
Also unrelated, but name your favorite pop album
Thomas Campbell
RIP, fallen trip friends.
>Mississippi John Hurt - Long Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground Quality stuff. Super affecting vocals, emotionally expressive guitar work. Anyone who thinks this early blues lacks complexity needs to hear this.
>Ramayana Monkey Chant Crazy I didn't know about this. A crazy complex rhythmic work involving only 100+ vocalists. Pretty hypnotic. Like co said, some parts are more engaging than others.
Co moves on
>Swans - Blood Promise No, no, no. This will get some of you riled up, but this was boring and pretentious. I can dig some Swans, and I'm not a guy to talk about crescendo-core being a meme, but this was totally one-note and unnecessary and without progression or even nuance. Let me know if you want me to keep going...
>Rise of the Northstar - Demonstrating My Saiya Style This was surprisingly all right. Production was great, those drums sound pounding as hell. Vocals are way over the top unnecessary. This is the kind of thing that's so formulaic but pulls what it does off well.
Trans is back from the dead.
Send picks, y'all.
Oliver Long
FCUK bears
Thomas Robinson
done.
Logan Price
the fuck is wrong with you good christ
Zachary Ortiz
My age starts with 2 instead of 1
Tyler Cruz
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Owen Barnes
"pretentious" is not a valid criticism tho
Luke James
Of course it is. It means a sense of importance that overshadows value. Plus there's the rest of my criticism
Kevin Campbell
im not gonna argue with you but you have bad taste
If I'm gonna lose for Dark Was the Night it might as well be to Golden Rain not even mad. Good round.
Also I think that Swans review is phrased abysmally.
Any review on Sup Forums's Sup Forums's /daily/ using the phrase "pretentious" is made illegitimate by existing in itself.
Wyatt King
Give me a fucking break. You make a lame pick, I don't like it and list out all the reasons why (even offer to elaborate), your only rebuttal is "you have bad taste"? You see how productive this is? If you want to be remotely serious about music criticism, leave ego at the door and make some actual tangible arguments
Jaxon Ross
i told you i wasn't gonna argue with you my guy, my intention was to reground ourselves to the fact that this is Sup Forums's music board and there's nothing legitimate or serious going on here
though if you want to talk about tangible arguments, i would start by making some that don't involve buzzwords
Juan Green
Happy to elaborate, but "pretension doesn't exist" is a terrible new meme. Where did this come from?
Jeremiah Martin
Rock 'n Soul (1964) by Solomon Burke, recommended by Anonymous
This is a gorgeous package of R&B, soul, country, and gospel inflected songs performed with a glowing warmth and spirit. The selection is varied and a little hit and miss, but every tune is given heart. All are short and sweet, in some cases a little too much so, but the whole thing is worth listening through being bookended by the trembling 'Cry to Me' and a cover of Jim Reeves' 'He'll Have to Go' that spins it a whole another direction. Cheers to the user who recommended this, it fills the '64 spot beautifully.
Ethan Scott
it's not that it just like i said has more to do with context, the listener's predisposition, her own ego, than any actual tangible quality of the music, except maybe lyrics like any other attitude you may find in music it's just a question of, idk, empathy or willingness to accept it or something? in a case like Liturgy call it "conviction" or "ambition", there now it's an upside
Jack Evans
fuck me daddy
Andrew Watson
BTFO
Dylan Green
how will /daily/ ever recover
Hudson Mitchell
What you described is at least what's become the trap of calling something pretentious--that it's all too easy to call any ambitious thing you don't like/understand pretentious (like Boyhood) because nobody can point to any concrete proof proving or disproving it. That would be an inappropriate use of the term. Now that doesn't mean it's not a real quality that can affect some works. Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music is a pretentious work of art. Supposedly he didn't even listen to it all before releasing it. Do you see how this is gives it an inflated sense of importance? Are we just supposed to ignore this quality in music because it's hard to talk about?
Owen Moore
I think that pretension is an extension of the artist and not the art and that's were you and I disagree.
I also wouldn't even disagree that Swans are pretentious, but the idea that being pretentious is an inherently negative adjective or even relevant adjective when describing art is silly to me. It's 100% about the framing and almost never about the art. Think about what would've been called pretentious in the 70s, or hell, the 30s had that word been in popular use. Early jazz musicians literally called Bebop newcomers "hipsters" which I think is hilarious to think about now. The word had different meaning then but it's negative usage is in a similar manner.
It's 2015/16/17's version of saying "hipster" imo and not really constructive or relevant. Hell, I don't even care for that Blood Promise song hearing it now but I'm sticking by this.
Sorry if this reply has a lot of errors but I'm replying from mobile rn.
Gabriel Campbell
>he didn't even listen to it all before releasing it. Do you see how this is gives it an inflated sense of importance? 'fraid not to be honest. you could for sure argue it's lazy and samey and assume that pretention is the cause of that like look im lou reed whatever i do is a masterpiece but it's not directly what makes a bad album
well these guys listened to it and paid tribute sounds like an improv take on music for 18 musicians. it's pretty cool
Elijah Powell
Was replying to Transgod that I agree with him.
Also, Liturgy is 100% pretentious but their music is not because art can never be pretentious. "Liturgy did X because they were pretentious" would be fine but "Liturgy's art is pretentious" is not. Maybe to most people it means the same thing but for some reason I seems to care about this a lot.
Cameron Perez
*hampus voice*
BEGONE THOT
Easton Mitchell
Laughed audibly to this
Isaiah Johnson
The thing is, by definition, pretension implies a lack of substance to support ambition. This is negative. Ambitious is not a criticism, pretentious is.
I was only using Metal Machine Music as an example, Trans. Don't really care about it, I assume the interpretation has more value than the original though.
Dylan Jackson
it's simple, we kill the batman
Adrian Sanchez
y'all replyin' to the wrong dude n shit gotdam -_-
now THIS is pretentious
Hunter Cooper
which is why calling something pretentious is a completely empty assertion unless you can cite actual examples of the artist's self-important perception of his/her art (something that is rather difficult to do, given its almost never stated outright by the artists themselves) AND, if you make it that far, you actually pinpoint why the substance of the art comes short of that artist's perception
William Rogers
Again, you can read the rest of my review where I talk about reasons. If we only talk about art in empirical terms, we get not very far (and none of you want to talk about counterpoint and such anyway, let's be real)
Caleb Johnson
you're pretentious
Oliver Campbell
where the lie tho
Aiden Flores
Still no real duds on this chart imo.
AZ - Doe or Die
I only really know AZ for his verse on Illmatic and his connections to The Firm but I still knew exactly what to expect. It’s basically what you’d expect from a East Coast/NY rapper in the 90’s. Grimy boom bap beats, heavy subject matter and some solid rhymes.
AZ has this soft, almost whispery flow that works exceptionally with the simple production. He doesn’t quite have the same bite as some MCs from the era - but I still love this style so much that it doesn’t really hurt him. It isn’t the most unique style I’ve ever heard, it reminds me a bit of Cormega, but it works. His lyricism is really solid as well, he raps in this tongue-twisting style that doesn’t sound forced. He’s almost nonchalant about rapping - which I’ve grown to love. I greatly prefer it to dudes who make a big deal about their lines.
Anyway, this is solid all throughout. AZ doesn’t have the personality or unique style to make it a classic but it’s enjoyable from front to back.
3.5/5
Nathan Peterson
Are you doing this in any particular order? If not you should try Souvlaki next.
Ethan Russell
>only ten days until let my children hear music MMMMMMMM
Nicholas Price
i meant nine
Eli Garcia
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Hunter Walker
I'm really looking forward to that one, I've heard great things! The whole jazz section is gonna be exciting.
Leo White
boy is that pretentious
Jacob Brown
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Brandon Gray
one of those was mine.....
Asher Torres
>Maybe to most people it means the same thing but for some reason I seems to care about this a lot. same. more than the actual definition i'm interested in what actually makes people close off from what they call pretentious (read: not necessarily what fits the definition perfectly) and stop taking it srsly (without having to resort to 2deep4u), and how you can suspend that cuz i jus' want peeps to keep an op'n mine about stuff like this but it's, ykno
what am i looking at
Dylan Fisher
>what am i looking at actually that's not the correct reaction at all
check em and free ian watkins
Landon Hall
ha ha... no way those sixes are mine, right...
Nicholas Young
benis
Adam Morgan
...
Parker Perez
Sup Forums is way slower than i remember...
Angel King
Fuck it they are mine
Christian Williams
Raymond Scott - Manhattan Research, Inc >Electronic, Space Age Pop, Fun
“It’s only 9:30 and I’m tired again - right down to my blood!”
Man, this is like Madlib’s wet dream, there’s so much for potential for sampling here. A bunch of little jingles and upbeat synth pieces, this is pretty much as easygoing as it gets. It exudes happiness man, it’s just irresistibly positive and happy-go-lucky. Basically possesses everything that makes this era of electronic music fun. This is just about as easy going as it gets. For the 50s and 60s this feels really ahead of its time, with Kraftwerk-esque instrumental cuts and such. “Rhythm Modulator”, “The Wild Piece” and “Night and Day” are all fucking out there for these decades so that was cool to hear. Also, “Limbo” was trippy as hell. Quite futuristic sounding as well.
That being said, the jingles, ads and infomercials start to get old kind of quickly. It’s cool to hear these novelty pieces at first, they’re so wholesome and positive. But the first disk is kind of packed with these things, as they’re more common than the actual instrumentals. Though it’s a compilation, it feels unnecessary to have so many of these snippets jammed into one listen. I can only hear about local auto and paper companies for so long before it gets obnoxious.
Anyway, it was still enjoyable, especially when it came to the instrumentals. I might return to the infomercial cuts if I were a producer but they were kind of a one-time listen in my mind. Certainly a cool concept and some great ideas though.
This is kind of a weird album, some tracks are solo guitar and some have a backing band or another guitar or people dancing/clapping/snapping in the background. The solo performances are a bit wanky and lacking in emotion, but the tracks that feature more people are boats of fun.
>Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
Neo-psychedelia rarely sits well with me, and this isn't an exception. Most of this feels like it's trying way too hard to capture the surreal psychedelic feeling and the overbearing indieness gives me more of a headache than any of the noisiness. Sorry Fish-o.
s moves on
>Dirty Three - Ocean Songs
Pleasant, but dull. Not very memorable, the only track that sticks out in my memory is that cresendocore one early on. It works fine as background music I guess, but as far as active listening goes it's a chore. Post-rock is really not my thing.
>Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
Nice and mellow late night music, it's like the musical equivalent of staying up too late to watch Seinfeld reruns. It's a bit long though, I think you could cut out twenty minutes and it would be the better for it. And the male vocalist gets on my nerves.
trip up owes me a rec
Austin Parker
uh... that's not the right yo la tengo album but i actually like it more than painful so excellent
are there any second round restrictions
Michael Morales
>painful - 6 ok >ocean song - 4 sure >yerself is steam - 5 images cannot even begin to properly convey my anger
Adam Rogers
Also what is this rick astley post and how is it autoplaying like that?
Camden Butler
i mean, it's fine that you admittedly don't care for two of the genres you're reviewing but >trying way too hard to capture the surreal psychedelic feeling like what else should they be doing?
Camden Davis
>Get three hours of sleep >Look all over for the keys I have in my hands >Forget to make a lunch >Listen to the wrong album >Look at the cover on the chart and still think I listened to the right album >Then "review" the wrong album >Dishonored my ancestors in a way that can only be cured by ritual suicide
fug :DDDDDD
I'll listen to the right album and score it correctly
But the second round rule is that it has to be under 100 ratings on RYM.
Explain the appeal to me, the only tracks I really liked were Syringe Mouth and Frittering
Logan Hall
wait so i might not win darn
Chase Roberts
I would say it's very vaguely Neo-Psych and more noise-oriented pop. Maybe it's just not your thing, but I would at least give the opening track another listen, as the first time I heard it (granted it was a few years ago) was one of the most flooring and beautiful things ever.
Jaxon Flores
fuck listening to Chasing a Bee right now and this is probably one of the most satisfying and textured pop songs ever made. And it's not even their best song (Something for Joey is xP )
I can totally see someone who is completely turned off by psychedelic music could be turned off by it though. Fair enough.
Luke Green
>textured why did I use this word? I guess it makes sense in this context but it's not necessarily true. I like the layers in it but I retract this part. Everything else stands.
Jacob White
>Roxy Music - Avalon Pretty fuckin' lame desu. It sounds like poorly executed soft rock to me. However, the sax lines and synths are bomb.
>Oren Ambarchi - Hubris I don't know how to express how I feel about this album, as I'm not that good of a writer, except for one word. Wow.
Trip up and Darklands owe me reccs
you are simultaneously the best and worst trip
Austin Hall
Hey NKC I'm listening to that Freddie Hubbard album you posted about yesterday; solid stuff. The trumpet is amazing but you're right, the keyboard and drums together are also highly commendable. God bless
Evan Cruz
do you have an rym so i know what you like
Gabriel Sanchez
sicc
Elijah Parker
anna gardeck- bondage women >death industrial, noise so good. the obvious comparison is pharmakon, but gardeck is definitely better. really compelling, commanding rhythms and a satisfying variance in textures and sounds. the opera singing on the finale track was unexpected. that was interesting, but i'm not sure how well it worked. regardless, a great listen overall. recommended to fans of Pharmakon or anyone frustrated with the lack of structure to Noise albums.
Landon Fisher
no, here's this chart instead
Asher Perry
Where do I even start? I think I ought to just write a review
Adrian Nguyen
What happened to Idris Ackamoor? I loved We Be All Africans. :/
Isaiah Long
how far you've come what have you heard from sissy spacek/john wiese?
Andrew Rodriguez
if i have to see another video of tom bradys stupid kid dabbing im gonna set myself on fire
Ethan Morris
uh how about townes van zandt - s/t
Logan Brown
>as the first time I heard it (granted it was a few years ago) was one of the most flooring and beautiful things ever In a way, I'm kind of sad not everyone has had this experience. The first time I heard Chasing a Bee and it got TOO fucking loud it destroyed me.
John Sanders
no, just Set Your Friends On Fire xd
Zachary Adams
you have to understand, nyar has some p bad taste unless it comes to matters of grindcore or indie pop
Julian Richardson
good rec
was this for me? Because idk if I would say I'm "sad" for someone that doesn't like something like I do, but I distinctly remember the first time I heard Chasing a Bee and it was insane to me.
Brayden Mitchell
lmao
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on another note, have you checked out Tribo Massáhi - Estrelando Embaixador yet? I have a dl if you need it.
Cameron Collins
I Would Set My Friends on Fire For You
Jaxson Lopez
Sike! I have no friends!
Joshua Harris
The repetition wore me out fiercely. I don't think it's a strictly bad record, but the length and style quickly bored me, and just as quick annoyed me.
I need a really smarmy reaction image right now
Ryan Parker
>corridor - le voyage éternel bought this on a whim off bandcamp, and it kind of blew me away with how good it is. sounds like a poppier, french Women if they liked to hang out by the beach. the guitar work is, like all stuff in this style, angular and catchy, but where Women opted for noise, CORRIDOR like to dive into jangly indie-rock territory. great songs, great production, great poppy post-punk album. definitely check it out if you like women/telstar drugs/maybe even real estate
3.5+/5 i can be your friend
Jonathan Reed
sike!
Sebastian Cook
I need to revisit sissy spacek. After I got into noisecore with deep jew, I tried sissy again but it still didn't quite click. Not sure who John weise is
