Be American

>be American
>get natural selection'd

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Not saying this might not be true, bit irl I don't know anyone who voted for Trump that is also on Obamacare.

evolution is beautiful

>t-this all the es jay dubyas fault
>if they hadn't been so mean to the white working class™ they totally would have voted for Shillary
>it's totally not their fault they keeping voting for racist demagogues who screw them over

Are you guys ready for 2008 on steroids?

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>Don't '''believe''' in evolution
>Support social darwinism

'Merrica

Avatar fagging is a bannable offense

Some third of your countrymen at minimum are young Earth creationists and many of the rest believe in evolution directed by supreme being.

I can see we've come to the point where we use MS Paint comics we found on Sup Forums as a source.

i believe in the green vote next time
though more likely people will forgive trump for everything just because he speaks like them

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I literally have a pre-existing condition that caused insurance companies refuse to insure me pre-ACA. I still voted Trump even though I might die, because I know that he's gonna help America as a whole become great. You may use all the smug greentext you want, but I'm literally willing to die for my country. Lib faggots like you are gonna be the death of your nations in the long term.

what's your pre-existing condition?

severe autism

>Living in a country without free healthcare

but why?

>said Michael Moore

lol

lügenpresse

>free

Sue me

More like "polls". Don't shoot the messenger.

I have type 2 diabetes. I'd have to go into severe debt for my medication if I didn't have my insurance.

>American can't understand the concept of free

there's a joke in here somewhere

You don't need healthcare when you've got tipping

will you believe me if I tell you I was sure you'd say type 2 diabetes?

if you're serious, how well are you controlling it?

We do. It's called Medicare and Medicaid.

Why would it? If we look at election stats most Trump supporters were middle class or rich, while the poor voted for Hillary.

Dog bless

>he isn't poor having healthcare literally for free

lmao

>will you believe me if I tell you I was sure you'd say type 2 diabetes?
I'm not fat if that's what you're trying to say. It has gotten mildly worse over the years, but it's pretty steady. By the time I'm 60 I'll probably want to kill myself though.

The problem with American healthcare is that everything cost at least 2 time more than everywhere else in the world.

It does not matter what insurance mechanism you use, as long as things cost so much, it will not work.

>Why would it? If we look at election stats most Trump supporters were middle class or rich, while the poor voted for Hillary.
Excluding of course all the Hollywood celebrities, corporations, and banks that voted for Hillary?

>Be American
>Get mugged and shot one night
>Not again, that's the third time this month
>Ambulance picks me up after bystanders call the police
>Ambulance charges me $800 for the ride to the hospital
>Lost my card so they offer me an instalment plan with a 10% interest rate
>No choice but to accept
>Get to hospital
>Doctors won't treat me until I pay them $4000 for a consultation and some aspirin
>Have to kill a man to take his identity and his insurance

another day in glorious trumplandistan

I thought HUSSEIN Obama was gonna take all your guns, kill all Christians and declare himself dictator for life would have done all this for now. Well, I can't be wrong twice so I know Trump will fix everything.

Also I'm not racist, I just dislike HUSSEINs politics so I'm not biased against him from the start. Glad the chimp is out of the WHITE house.

sucks if you aren't even obese man. gl

Duh. The American health care system is massively overburdened with red tape and government regulations.

Aren't all European social services being massively drained by Ahmed and Nbu?

Free healthcare is not important at all. I really hate it when cunts like you think that free healthcare is on par with something like free education. Where as free education is essential to keep the social mobility high, free healthcare is just a dysfunctional drain. A private healthcare industry, that is subsidized and regulated by the government, works much better.

You make fun of Americans for not having free healthcare but I'm betting my balls that most people you know have health insurance despite having free healthcare.

Yeah.. Because there are only a few thousand of them. While over 60 million people voted for her. They weren't all those bloggers or actors that you hate.

You must be deluded if you think Obamacare is similar to our normal healthcare. Trust me, nothing of value is lost.

right. thats what poor uneducated patriots fall for. surprisingly, with all of their faults, those scum wont acknowledge it and will desperately try to find out someone else who can be their enemy to blow off their stresses and shun the reality. as a result they become more stupid delusional and racist. they cant get off that loop forever, and ofc they are gonna be slaves and work harder at least 12h a day.

It's time you add one: the medical secret.

Basically, it give every doctor a joker to use in front of a tribunal if you sue them.
It mean no one will ever sue a doctor.
It mean doctors will be busy healing people and not being in front f a court.
It mean doctors will not have to pay a million a year to a lawyer insurance.

It mean prices are on freefall.

>While over 60 million people voted for her

NYC, LA, and Chicago alone accounted for almost one quarter of that total desu.

Michael Moore? Like the hyperliberal who is the left's Bill o' reilly?

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>Broken down by income bracket, 52% of voters earning less than $50,000 a year – who make up 36% of the electorate – voted for Clinton, and 41% for Trump.
>But among the 64% of American voters who earn more than $50,000 a year, 49% chose Trump, and 47% Clinton.

Niggercare is a total travesty. It fixes nothing and serves one purpose only, to bleed the middle class white.

>most Trump supporters were middle class or rich

Not true at all

And it's the SJW RIDF Finn right on cue.

This is why Trump said he'd keep certain parts of Obamacare. Republicans have been fear mongering to Trump's base about Obamacare for so long now that Trump couldn't be pro Obamacare or even neutral about it if he wanted to get elected. IF he keeps his campaign promises about Trumpcare, it'll look a lot like Obamacare. And this time conservatives will love it and liberals will hate it even though it'll be pretty similar.

>to bleed the middle class white.
Isn't that what you wanted? No more different looking people in your suburbs?

Serious question, I've met a lot of Americans and seen a lot of American posts and I've noticed, you all seem to think someone is out to get you or the group you belong to (i.e. white men, black women, etc). What the fuck is up with you guys? Why are you all so paranoid?

make like a banana and chill the fuck out for a minute

Now, count the people on welfare and the people with a job.

It's more accurate to say, Niggercare was set up in such a way that removing the entire thing is practically impossible.

Look at this retard, folks. He thinks the ACA was something you could be on like a public option. All the ACA did was say your insurance company can't fuck you in the ass with preexisting conditions nonsense and let's you stay on mommy's insurance until you're 26. That's every trumpette I've met.

This is a myth. When you really question people about their beliefs, only about 10% of Americans are young earth creationists. This meme that we don't believe in evolution comes from polls that allow people to give contradictory answers, like saying you believe in God guiding evolution and in natural selection.

You can have a look here bud pic

Liberals =/= communists.

>only about 10% of Americans are young earth creationists
>only

Say hello to the future of politic. It's the final stage of clientelism.

The Clintons want the vote of niggers, spics and woman and promised to give them more of working people money
Trump was for the working men. He have been elected because it is no unusal to have someone standing for the working men in an election. The other is usually for the big corporations.

Nice proof.

>Look mom! I said nigger! Aren't I edgy?

And no, the parts Trump mentioned keeping were being able to stay on your parents insurance and to not be denied for having a pre existing condition. Those parts could easily be repealed, those are the parts that are driving insurance costs up.

Lots of people live in cities, thanks for pointing that out.

>All the ACA did was say your insurance company can't fuck you in the ass with preexisting conditions nonsense and let's you stay on mommy's insurance until you're 26.
In short, let's have no personal responsibility because nanny government will always bail you out.

Paranoid af.

You think it is impossible that there are more than one people who disagree with you? Besides, I haven't even said anything that is questionable: IT is a statistic fact that the American poor leaned Hillary.

To be fair, it also requires employers provide insurance for employees.

Forcing people to have insurance is the opposite of the government bailing people out, it's forcing people to cover the costs of the burden they place on society. Is the government forcing you to have insurance to drive a car the government bailing people out? It's the same principle. Poor people depending on the ER and then not paying their bills was driving healthcare costs up before Obamacare.

thats whats the alt-right is man. but dont worry they wont have any influence on their society. tho it will become partly sort of political fashion in mainstream and they will be louder day by day on the internet at least for the next 10 years.

That Finn is an infamous troll and leftist. His grandparents were probably communists who wanted Finland annexed as a Soviet republic.

>be Drumpfkin
>support Trump even when he starts a war with Iran
>get drafted into the war
>get injured
>have to pay for everything yourself because you couldn't afford insurance and the government gutted their healthcare spending

Car insurance is a state issue, there's no requirement for that at the federal level.

>draft
>this day and age
>any year after 1972
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>To be fair, it also requires employers provide insurance for employees.
Regardless of their ability to pay for it.
>it's forcing people to cover the costs of the burden they place on society
Regardless of their ability to pay for it.
>Poor people depending on the ER and then not paying their bills was driving healthcare costs up before Obamacare.
Wrong.

Does it really matter what level of government does it? All states require insurance or some states give you the option of paying a fee to the state if you don't have insurance. They do that because you need to cover your costs on society.

The Federal government cannot force you to buy something; the courts have already ruled on that.

No, poor people get subsidies to help them pay for it.

A lot of that "red tape" driving costs up is the laws that make it illegal to turn patients away if they can't pay.
>muh regulations
Singapore has one of the most regulated healthcare systems in the world and their healthcare is much cheaper than ours.

USA don't need a draft. If you don't sign up, you're unpatriotic leech who will be shunned by friends, family and president for life. Few will endure that.

Hope you don't get captured in war either, coward.

Singapore has fewer people than NYC.

If there's a serious enough war, the government can re instate it.

It's just as important as free education.

Also (and I know this varies per country), private healthcare here is somewhat relatively common because employers usually provide you with one as one of those emplyment bonus things for decent jobs and because anyway it isn't that expensive if you get ys one. ~50€/month provides you a pretty good one.

Which is good especially for dentristy stuff, because that isn't covered by the public healthcare. I don't have health problems and haven't really been often to the clinic, but when I did go, I went to the public one. It works pretty well here for typical primary and secondary assistance (i.e muh stomach hurts, muh fucked up twisted knee, muh pneumony, muh insulin cause diabetes and etc). Also surgery. For serious stuff (muh brain cancer and so on) I suppose it's probably better to go through a private specialist.

The argument I was trying to make, and I think I didn't make it quite clear, is that nationalized health care is not viable at the federal level, but any state is free to have at it, as they do in Massachusetts and Hawaii.

What does that have to do with anything? Somehow if we took the exact same laws as Singapore, it wouldn't work because of the population size? Where is your proof?

>Trump wins white votes in counties with large African American populations
youtube.com/watch?v=7HO_L1gvJ00

Give your abo brain a shake. Whites who live near niggers (the recipients of Obongocare) overwhelmingly vote for Trump.

There would have to be some really major, WWII-scale conflict to need a draft and modern wars just aren't fought that way anymore.

A) economies of scale.
B) what if you're injured outside of your home state? Who picks up the tab?

It won't. One reason why Denmark can have a welfare state is a small, homogenous population with very low income stratification. This model is totally non-workable in the US at the national level. If it were, it would have been done a long time ago.

Here's the problem. Social welfare services end up not helping working people who pay into the system, they end up allowing nonproductive leeches to live off the system.

Did you know that in Sweden, at least 75% of welfare handouts go to, ahem, non-Swedes?

Russia has a large, non homogenous population and they still have universal healthcare.

People tried to implement universal healthcare several times in US history, it was blocked because rich people didn't want to pay taxes for it, not because of infeasibility. If you want to argue that you just don't want the rich to pay for it, go ahead, but that's not what you're doing.

Kind of. It's more accurate to say that health care is a finite resource and it's best to conserve it for actual medical emergencies, not some guy's gender reassignment surgery.

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I don't think you want to use a Russian hospital.

Proof you say? Norway has like 6 million people and a gigantic amount of oil and gas to pay for social services.

The idea with their welfare is to use it for positive social change. Obviously poor immigrants are going to need more of it. But if it helps these people raise their children better, their children will be less likely to be poor or otherwise a drain on society.

>it was blocked because rich people didn't want to pay taxes for it, not because of infeasibility. If you want to argue that you just don't want the rich to pay for it, go ahead, but that's not what you're doing.

And with that, the Tumblrite falls back on the Marxist class struggle he learned from his college professor.

>Obviously poor immigrants are going to need more of it. But if it helps these people raise their children better, their children will be less likely to be poor or otherwise a drain on society
All possibility of rational discussion ended here.

Compared to other countries of similar development level without universal healthcare, Russia does ok.

I'm a centrist and I'm an entry level wage cuck, I'm not even a college student or graduate. I'm just poor and stand to benefit from a social safety net existing.

>It's just as important as free education.
What is your reasoning for this? Why do you think that having access to free healthcare is just as important as free education? Free education allows you to climb out of poverty, no matter what age or life situation.

Free healthcare in the other hand allows you to endure poverty more easily* (*a semi-private system would be easier to maintain most likely) A system where those whose earnings go below the taxation line get healthcare free and those who earn more get less taxes + insurance fees probably costs less.

Assuming you're white, I'm sorry, but the existence of a social safety net won't benefit you. That's not how it works.

The thing is that SJWs have no idea of how economics work or how to pay for stuff.

I am white. I do benefit from Obamacare. Sorry this doesn't align with your worldview.

>hundreds of thousands of working class Americans who can barely pay their bills now having to pay this ludicrous Obananacare "tax"

And you wonder why they all voted for Trump.

But poor people voted for Clinton.