I was at a Swans show (front row) an it was purely amazing but sometime during the show I decided to take a quick picture of Gira and HE FLIPPED SHIT on me... it was just a single picture. I wanted to keep a memory of an awesome moment ya know? But then I read more on Sup Forums that he does this very, very, very often. He yells at everyone I guess.
It was kinda hard to enjoy Swans for like a month after that because it always reminded me of that rather embarrassing moment... but it's apparently just a thing for him. Good thing I know never to do it again at least.
Still massive love for Gira, he was going through hard times with rape accusations.
There are a lot of stories of him yelling at people or taking their cell phones away
Chase Gutierrez
i know that lol im just tryin to give you a hard time
Chase Hernandez
kek
Tyler Ortiz
what an asshole
glad im not getting tickets to a swans show
Dominic Walker
OP here, also to mention... I bought a vinyl and a shirt after the show and when I met him and I politely apologized he just didn't say anything and ignored me. Kind of funny I guess, he's just an angry dude. He signed my vinyl at least.
Xavier Moore
What a cunt. Still, fuck phones. You shouldn't be taking pictures or snapping during a concert. It's fucking stupid
Hunter Lewis
Why would he hate people taking photos of him? Happens at every gig ever. Huge douchebag move to flip on a fan who has paid money to see you.
James Rivera
Yeah I agree man. But.. Just a simple, really quick picture though... I loved the show.
Benjamin Baker
That's Gira for you
Don't try and interact/meet him he's just a dick. Don't be offended.
Samuel Brooks
It's hard to process the disgust I feel from your posts towards him. Stories like this takes bits and pieces away from the sentimental values I cherish of albums like White Light, it's a sham.
Also I see posts like this all the time, I keep losing respect for him.
Jace Hill
I don't know if you're serious or not, but these kind of posts are elaborate meme. Gira is a nice dude actually.
Jack James
well i´ve never went to a show where the guy is first doing the privileged cunt role to the audience and then expecting any sales, everyone i´ve seen has been really nice and respectful, especially if they´re someone huge
swans should start hanging out with deadmau5 since they both get a boner from trolling random people
Brandon Ross
why is it fucking stupid?
Isaiah Smith
That's a very dumb decision, my best ever concert experience was a Swans concert and it was 10 times better than hearing any of their albums. You should really go. Also, Gira always stays to sign anything and maybe chat with fans a few hours after the show so he's not really that bad.
Asher Cruz
I saw Michael Gira at a grocery store in Los Angeles last year. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yelling really loudly.
Levi Sanders
Good bait reverse psychology master
Bentley Wood
>according to OP flips off audience, no chats afterwards >bunch of middle aged whitemen >best thing ever i´ll rather get tickets to random nigga rapper live
Ryder Gonzalez
Hahahaha Gira is a mad man
As people said, don't be offended.
My interaction with him went well but his face in my picture with him is priceless. He was rude as hell to other people, and during the show he freaked out on the audience for random shit. Everyone was just standing there giving their full attention idgi but hey at least you know now not to pull your phone out during a Swans performance. That still probably won't save you from getting yelled at. kek
Sebastian Hall
I honestly think that yelling and having a temper tantrum is part of his performance. He even yelled at his drummer when I saw him last summer.
100/100 show though, mind bending
Jaxon Johnson
Signed my WL vinyl/poster as well, only Swans album I really love but... Glowing Man live was quite the experience.
I'm calling bull, it's all an act. Swans trying to be Swans.
Camden Barnes
That's degenerate and just kinda pathetic on his part. I don't even care what anyone says, fuck this guy. Especially this post triggered me. What a try hard. Literally GG Allin tier
Brayden Parker
yeah I'm not seeing them live, kek
Wyatt Campbell
>saw the Brian Jonestown Massacre back in 2012 >asked Ricky Maymi to play My Sharona as a joke >he launches into a tirade about how I should be appreciating the fact that he's even there playing for me >$40 tickets, overpriced merch >Anton Newcombe smirking like the arrogant cunt he is
petty shit like this turned me off BJM, as well as Anton's pretty awful social media presence when he had a Facebook too
Jeremiah Rogers
The infuriating part of OP's post is this
Zachary Martinez
>tried to take a quick picture
Levi Barnes
oh fuck fripp don't kill me i swear i didn't vaguely remember a king crimson cover art
Asher Ortiz
I sperged out and thanked him after the show I went to last fall and he shook my hand in a way which felt both like routine but also sincere. I was on cloud nine for about two weeks after that.
Gira is my hero.
Robert Kelly
May someone pass me that Swans' discography guide pic ?
Lincoln Sanders
Basically same here, I told him the Glowing Man show was like a religious experience and he thanked me. Truly was. His stage presence is raw as fuck.
Asher Gonzalez
...
Connor Garcia
i've met the guy and this seems like actual bullshit
Sebastian Bell
This is the garbage one btw
There's a much better flowchart somewhere
Oliver Mitchell
I once tried to take a picture of Jeff Mangum
Wyatt Johnson
got it
Ethan Hill
You've been ruse cruised.
Wyatt Kelly
Thank you , guys .
Wyatt Powell
Doesn't matter and it's not bullshit.
Hunter Martinez
I'm not lying you stupid faggot
Josiah Allen
He's really starting to bore me with this kind of edginess
Juan Sanchez
Jeff would probably never really get angry at anyone except if he was having like an insanely shitty day. I don't think he's ever been mad someone filming but sometimes he seems terrified of cameras, and just stares into them through like half of the song.
Brody Brown
Sorry that happened but don't let it get you down, dude is fucked in the head, (very clearly and openly.)
Joshua Sullivan
Gira's such a cool guy. Shook my hand, signed my copy of Swans are Dead, took a pic with me, and even answered a few questions I had
Gavin Roberts
Where / how did you meet him?
Jeremiah Gonzalez
not him but i assume he met him by the merch table after a show
Oliver Cooper
Gira looks super tall. Either that or you're short, idk
Mason Nelson
>Music for edgy Hipsters >Lead Singer behaves like an edgy Hipster
What a surprise. He has probably seen some corny Youtube video like "look up" about how we don't experience reality anymore man because technology is evil. This Rapist should really stop sperging out at his shows and deflate his undeserved ego a bit. The sad part really is how pathetic OP is in letting himself get talked to like that AND THEN still give this man money AND apologize to the cunt.
Xavier Sanders
I don't like Swans' music and everything I've heard about this guy makes him out to be a huge asshole.
Levi Ross
Buddy Guy handed me a pick at a show.
Andrew Miller
>starting with soundtracks, ever lmao
Ethan Clark
>What a surprise. He has probably seen some corny Youtube video like "look up" about how we don't experience reality anymore man because technology is evil. You're a retard. >This Rapist You're trying way too hard. >should really stop sperging out at his shows and deflate his undeserved ego a bit. There's nothing wrong with calling out people who take photos at concerts. OP didn't deserve to get called out but he's a very rare exception. There are tons and tons of idiots who spend all of their time on their cellphones during concerts. >The sad part really is how pathetic OP is in letting himself get talked to like that AND THEN still give this man money AND apologize to the cunt. No, what's pathetic is your pointless whining. OP loves Michael Gira's music so he isn't gonna let one bad encounter ruin it. He has moved on instead of holding a petty grudge.
Noah Price
I've seen him twice. Amazing man. Fantastic guitar player, great guy, and hilarious.
Isaac Price
yeah, it was after the show at the merch table. combo of both. dudes tall, but I'm not very tall myself
Brayden Hall
He really was great. One of the best shows i've seen.
William Gonzalez
>takes a picture with flash
Anthony Cooper
Great points you bring there buddy. Especially the futile name calling and labeling things that are unpleasant to realize for you as whining. The fact remains that you are a pathetic excuse of a man with zero self respect if you not only let yourself get treated like that over some menial bullshit but also try to crawl up afterwards and apologize and give him money. You would have probably did OP one better and offered him to fuck your wife too.
Thomas Bailey
>futile name calling Both of your posts are futile name calling.
Landon Butler
Nope. I made points and clearly laid out WHY this is spineless behavior instead of just saying "you're retarded" which I could have. But I want to help OP behave like a man with dignity in the future by pointing out his submissive cuckoldry .
Liam Campbell
I've never seen them live, but just looking at him you feel pretty sure he's a cunt.
Tyler Gomez
Damn, y'all are making me wanna see him.
Robert Green
Why?
Isaac Stewart
he's a fucking lunatic his music is great tho
Jacob Rivera
I'm going to see the Swans at the roundhouse in May and I'm def going to take his picture after seeing this thread
Kayden Harris
Long time no see
Jack Miller
You didn't lay out anything, you just insulted Gira and OP. Also, you ignored the fact that OP shouldn't have had his phone out in the first place. Gira's reaction was a bit extreme but justified.
Daniel Cook
Do it user, you'll have a great time and see a show you'll never forget.
Nathan Turner
Do phones at concerts trigger you? Hope you bring a therapy pony with you to hug when it all gets a bit too much to handle.
Grayson Torres
Nice, more futile name calling.
Evan Hill
i love this pasta so much
Jace Reed
Point out the name I called you in that sentence.
Carson Lopez
And now you're resorting to semantics.
Jonathan Morris
michael gira is devil with anus mouth he do a rape to beautiful larkin she is innocent he is devil he tell the lie he play evil game of sex with larkin and he do it do evil gira rot in hell
Ian Morris
>meet Gira at RI show >"That was a great show" >"Thank you" >Shake hand firmly >He doubles the firmness of the handshake and crushes my hand >Respect for Gira multiplies
Never had the idea that if someone gives you a firm handshake, just crush their hand. A true legend, even his handshakes are no-wave.
Juan Stewart
Then it's decided. Thanks user for the inspiration.
Carson Carter
Sounds to me like you're scrambling for an out user. Seriously though - why is it such a big deal if people take pictures at a concert as long as there's no flash?
Jason Rogers
No problem user, have fun.
Ryan Evans
The line for the current Swans tour is that it's the last one with the Swans in their current form. Has he said what's happening next? Just new solo stuff?
Nathaniel Rodriguez
>Gira's reaction was a bit extreme but justified.
His Extreme Reaction to this shit makes it unjustified. A look of disapproval is all that would have been needed, but instead this asshole makes a point of shitting on his fans regularly. Everybody decides for themselves how they want to be treated and you apparently just want to be treated like a little bitch
Jace Ortiz
I wouldn't give a shit if people just snapped a few photos. The problem is tons of idiots take snap billions of photos and spend the entire concert on their phones. If you're in the front row or in a moshpit it's easy to ignore but in every other situation it's an annoying distraction.
Elijah Rodriguez
this. he's not actually insane. maybe a little bit in the 80s but he seems to have really chilled out since then.
Wyatt Gonzalez
Ah ok, that I can agree with.
Aaron Russell
Dude he handed me a pick once too. He also signed my copy of Living Proof at another show.
Logan Ward
For an 80 year old man, he still sounds incredible. I've seen him 4 times and can't wait to catch him in Buffalo in April
Colton Anderson
>His Extreme Reaction to this shit makes it unjustified. A look of disapproval is all that would have been needed, but instead this asshole makes a point of shitting on his fans regularly. He yells at people who take out their cellphones, it's not a big deal. >Everybody decides for themselves how they want to be treated and you apparently just want to be treated like a little bitch Stay triggered.
Bentley Hughes
I dunno, Gira seems pretty nice to me. He wrote a song for me, and he seemed very down to earth in the video.
Ryder Parker
Why is it annoying? it has no effect on you whatsoever. You shouldn't get triggered over how people chose to enjoy things even if it makes you feel superior and "more authentic"
Michael Hall
Stay a little boot licking Bitch
Matthew Robinson
>Why is it annoying? it has no effect on you whatsoever. A flashing screen is distracting which is annoying. >You shouldn't get triggered over how people chose to enjoy things even if it makes you feel superior and "more authentic" Nice projection.
Wyatt Bennett
I saw the Butthole Surfers' reunion show in Asbury Park, NJ in 2008. It was such a great show that some of my friends and I decide to see them again a week or two later in Philly. So, I'm in the crowd watching them set up, and Gibby points directly at me and calls me a faggot. I turn to my friend and I'm like, "Yo, Gibby just called me a faggot." I turn back to Gibby and he's just laughing his ass off at me.
I'm pretty sure he was just fucking with me because he recognized me from the last show. Paul Leary pointed at us and gave us a thumbs up as well. So, I wouldn't call it a bad experience, but I would have preferred that he not called me a fucking faggot.
Anthony Stewart
That kind of shit literally hasn't happened since the 1980s as far as Gira goes. I'm super tired of the "le gira is so angry and edgy and he'll kill u xDDDDDD" meme. He's actually an extremely tempered and nice dude that's had kind of fucked up life
Nathan Moore
:^)
Adam Bell
I highly doubt OP used flash as most people don't. Especially since most people take videos rather then pictures.
>He wrote a song for me 'This fucking faggot, by Gira'
Jeremiah Moore
>I highly doubt OP used flash as most people don't. Especially since most people take videos rather then pictures. Cellphone screens can be pretty damn bright even without flash. If people lowered the brightness of their screens or conservatively took photos this wouldn't be an issue. The problem is no one ever lowers the brightness of their screens and tons of people will spend an entire concert on their cellphones. >You probably think this is deep No but I think your hipster accusations are pathetic.
Leo Torres
well i dont think you should sit on your phone and record the whole thing but a picture and a short video are cool things to have to remind you of a great show, seeing your heroes