>born in 2017 >tfw you can't write music like this anymore without being ridiculed by every classical musician in the world
Truly born in the wrong generation
Colton Martinez
underageb& pls do not post here
Josiah Gomez
>wanting to write music that's been done before by people 100x more talented than you'll ever be
jej
Kevin Nguyen
Explain, and why he's not as good as Grisey?
Luis Morris
>wanting to write music that's been done before by people 100 >m-muh progress in music is real and evident, right guys? r-right?
Chase Moore
Not even Bach would agee with your greentext. You're truly corrupted by the 20th century avant-gards.
Not bait, I wish I could just compose beautiful music for the sake of it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, yet doing so will make my works unsellable unless I dumb them down for the masses (and even then fame is more about marketing than music). It sucks to be a trained composer in the 21st century, ther's no way around it.
Jaxson Nguyen
>John Adams' birthday is in two days What will you be listening to?
Jaxson White
Mozart
Jace Bailey
Not John Adams
Ryder Campbell
Petzold
Ryan Rodriguez
.....but that is the prelude in c major from wtc bk 1... are you trying to troll me?
Justin Davis
no one wants to hear a bunch of inferior rehashes there'll never be another bach, beethoven, brahms, mozart, haydn, etc.. get over it
Nathaniel Parker
>no one wants to hear a bunch of inferior rehashes I do. checkmate atheists
Aaron Morales
brahms is literally a rehash of viennese school classical
William Taylor
i can't tell if this photo has been edited
Jayden Baker
not saying he's inferior though.
Xavier Russell
>mfw its literally impossible to imitate Monsuier D
top kek
Isaac Lopez
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Joshua Sullivan
Seeping crest of turbidity. Arrogant vessel of lunacy! Boil forth and deny! Grow numb and flicker! Disrupt sleep! Crawling queen of iron! Eternally self-destructing doll of mud! Unite! Repulse! Fill with soil and know your own powerlessness!
Evan Hill
Spectralism is boring
Leo Morgan
E
Adam Turner
T
Caleb Ross
Z
Jackson Turner
O
Blake Stewart
R
Landon Howard
are you an anime
Jose Baker
Penderecki - Threnody
Michael Brown
i've listened to Chopin's first ballade, and I've really enjoyed the last 3 minutes, but the middle part just disgusted me. What are some of his other pieces who resemble those last 3 minutes in mood and dynamics? youtube.com/watch?v=nW5po_Z7YEs
Thomas White
>not being the version by Zimerman >the middle part just disgusted me youtube.com/watch?v=RR7eUSFsn28 Go listen to more music, kiddo. Maybe you can stop being a pleb that way.
Matthew Barnes
I've actually listened only to the Zimerman version, I've just linked a random performance from youtube for the lazy anons
I've listened to the Rubinstein version now and I honestly don't understand why is he playing the last 30 seconds in that way, especially the scales and the low chords, but I don't know enough about Chopin to dispute that interpretation
Leo Perry
was Janáček the biggest cuck composer?
Jose Gomez
Who /baroque/ here?
James Morales
Bibalbi was romantic you pleb.
Julian Lopez
True patrician reporting in: I can only listen to minor preludes from the WTC and the Art of Fugue, everything else (especially major pieces) bore me to death.
Easton Martin
>1678-1741
romantics copied him
David Howard
WTC = nice preludes + boring fugues
Jaxon Torres
yeet
Connor Allen
Weird question: do composers actually hear music in their head? If I try I can only hear a echo (only 1 voice, usually the melodic line or some dynamic), but if I'm thinking about a song I've memorized I can abstractly imagine about all of the melodies and harmonies I'm not mentally singing.
Does my imagination just suck or is this the best humans can do? Can anyone here, for example, clearly mentally hear 2 melodic lines at once?
Lincoln Carter
Yes but only from songs I have heard many times, I can't create 2 melodies and then play them at the same time.
Have you learned an instrument before? I am fairly certain me practicing french horn for 8 years helped my ability to do that.
Ayden Walker
I'm currently learning how to play the cello, prior to that I've only played guitar, but I've never studied it formally. Does ear training helps with imagining music with more clarity?
Jose Nguyen
here's a Petzold monument
Mason Green
I'm a violinist, not a composer. But I can hear in my head, side-by-side all the different parts from this:
If only because I've been practicing it with an ensemble for a few months.
Kevin Sullivan
With side-by-side you mean that you hear all of them clearly at the same time? Also can you do this only with pieces you know? Can you, for example, compose a invention in your head, or do you necessarly have to have memorized every note prior to imagining them?
Robert Scott
Are there any good books to learn about conducting? inb4 Google
Gabriel Sanders
I would say playing a instrument in general helps with hearing music in your head more clearly. The better I got, the easier it became to hear any song in my head before I played it, just by reading the sheet music.
Camden Morgan
What do you do when a composition isn't going well for you in the sense that you don't feel it is matching with your original vision? This is for uni and it is due pretty soon so I can't restart fresh also it has to be with a certain approach.
Lincoln Phillips
>conducting
is this the biggest meme in the classical music world? literally just waving a baton around and practicing with the orchestra while making pedantic declarations about a sections tone? the orchestra can play the music and set tempo by themselves because they're actually musicians. only failed musicians become conductors.
Adrian Cook
No matter how bad it is finish it, only then start polishing it. Coming with something that is new, sophisticated and authentic is hard, polishing something bad into a state of art is infinitely easier.
This is the more generic advice I could possibly give you, since you haven't told us what you're composing.
t. composer
Tyler Lopez
Saying this only shows that you haven't ever seen a bad conductor. Lucky you, I guess.
A bad conductor will seriously fuck up the performance.
David Diaz
can you guys rec me some of your favorite pieces that are only voices? no other instruments, just sweet voices singing good melodies and harmonies.
Hunter Ramirez
Somebody put me out of my misery, I'm starting to enjoy Schoenberg
Grayson Harris
Post a bad conductor (don't be cheeky pls)
Julian Rogers
Fair enough, that's kind of the approach i was trying and for the most part im done, just doubting myself i guess. It's a (tonal) serialist piece for piano and trumpet btw All bach chorales, rachmanioff all night vigil
Xavier Bailey
If you like his 12 tone stuff yeah you should probably off yourself, but stuff like verklarte nacht is fine.
William Young
how do i get into brahms?
Lucas Watson
Don't be afraid; you just have begun to take the redpill on tonality, let it take you
Ethan Watson
He's simply not as tasteful or interesting. His music sounds more like Messiaen, Boulez and Stockhausen, plus some gimmicks, than his own individual voice. Both Grisey and Levinas have an interesting voice of their own; Murail is more juvenile in that sense.
Brayden Smith
karajan LOL
Easton Jenkins
retard
Lincoln Robinson
Thank you, I like Murail but you explained why, without memes, why you don't like him
I'll try out Levinas right now
Logan Sullivan
thanks so much! I was hearing bach a lot the past month, he is really a genius of harmony, is like he now the exact time to put every note in the paper. I will save your rec, thanks again
