Republicans are now a part of counterculture...

Republicans are now a part of counterculture. There will be a big republican movement in the music industry over the next three years. The leaders of the movement will be seen in the same regards as guys like Bob Dylan and Jim Morrison, who were a part of the counterculture movement in the 60s.

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are you the same guy that posted this yesterday or are you someone that saw it and wanted to be the op this time around?

lol wtf nah no way

>counterculture
>own all three branches of government
>Still dominated by old, religious, "family values" men
>Refuse to leave their bumfuck towns in flyover country because they're terrified of people with darker skin.

Nah, get fucked.

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Republicans aren't the counterculture
Have you been living under a rock?
Half of America voted for Trump, half of UK voted for Brexit
All three branches of US government is Republican
On the internet if you say anything remotely liberal, the entirety of Sup Forums reddit and youtube eats you alive, yet if you make anti-semetic jokes on youtube and someone criticises you, the entirety of the internet defends you and eats the criticiser alive then calls the criticiser "triggered"
For 5 years straight the entirety of the internet has been ranting and raving at the SJW boogeyman who barely has made a whisper, while at the same time believing the largest ideology on the planet (the altright) is counterculture
Even though I believe there are racial differences, I think people are absolutely retarded if they can't see that 99% of people on the internet and in real life are altright
The mainstream is altright, the counterculture is being progressive
The entire internet gets extremely triggered if you believe that humans are destroying the planet, while the entire internet makes nazi jokes about how jews should be gassed to save the planet
This hypocrisy is astounding
The sad thing is the entire internet will assume I'm Jewish when I'm not, just because I believe humanity in general is the biggest problem, not just jews muslims and blacks in particular

this so much

shut up

youtube.com/watch?v=QM0VyoVsCYg

awwwww did I hurt your feefees

SHUT UP

Since there are many idiots, your comment has a 50/50 chance of being trolling or serious

>saying something liberal on reddit or youtube gets you eaten alive

had a pretty good chuckle

Exactly. Only in the past year or so would such a thing even happen on reddit.

I'll admit, I've been a filthy cockroach for a few years, but only recently has there been a significant right-wing presence.

Perhaps you can say not all of the right is acting as a counterculture, but there are counterculturalists acting on behalf of the right.

no you don't get it. they aren't afraid to be dicks to gay people so that makes them counterculture.

You're all slaves to the government

Nah man being like that is 9gag tier retardation

how can they be countercultre if they are now in charge? if anything the left is back to where it was years ago during the bush admin, and it's good since it gives the left something to fight against instead of being in charge and slowly becoming lazy and apathetic until the far left took over. basically trump is making the left great again and filtering out the shitty far left slacktivists

this but without all the unnecessary exaggaration

Stop making the internet more and more insufferable every day

what's with politics today and everyone pretending they're both the counterculture and completely anti establishment? clinton and trump are both far from anti establishment. sanders was far from anti establishment. at this point it's silly to say that there's anyone in politics who is anti establishment. if you believe any politicians aren't corrupt, you're just gullible.

This 100%

keyboard warriors sure are badass.

Counterculture is the new mainstream, everyone is united in being against the center that doesn't exist.

Republicans are one half of the political mainstream America, not counterculture.

the republicans love to think they're edgy and fighting the "lamestream media" and that fox news and shooting guns in the woods is the height of cutting edge badassness. when yeah it's really at least 50% of people that think this way and growing since people get more tied to their ways as they age.

>yet if you make anti-semetic jokes on youtube and someone criticises you, the entirety of the internet defends you and eats the criticiser alive then calls the criticiser "triggered"
Is this a jab at PewDiePie? Because he actually did nothing wrong but homunculus journalists think they judge everything without context.

>There will be a big republican movement in the music industry over the next three years.
It already exists friend, it's called country music and has always been republican-leaning...

also no to everything else you said.

In the age of the internet there is unlimited access for anyone to absorption and dissemination of any ideology. So there really isn't a culture and a counterculture any more it's just a zillion way clusterfuck of everyone having a soapbox and every group having the ability to express themselves in an attention grabbing manner regardless of membership.
Just look at this thread. Half the people think the status quo is totally liberalism, half the people think that actually pretty much everyone is right wing. Heaps of people thing that the whole SJW thing is like this massive movement that is sweeping the world, heaps argue that actually it's literally almost no one just a vocal group on the internet. No one can fucking agree on what is actually popular or what is the status quo vs the "counter culture" because everything gets attention and the internet is just this constantly shifting sea of varying content

mainstream media

>Half of America voted for Trump
you mean twenty percent of the country?
the REAL SILENT MAJORITY DIDN'T VOTE AT ALL


and WHO is making all these generally 'altright' posts on the internet?

>Republicans are now a part of counterculture
Kek this is embarrassing. Have some news faggot, counterculture is no longer a thing, and if it were, republicans would never be a part of it, now kill yourself

>trump is anti-establishment
When this will die? Everybody with 2 brain cells knows that """""liberal"""" media it's just way of capitalize on strugles of the lower classes. The establishment is not """""liberal""""", they just found a way of make money through people that would usually reject and fight them.

>entirety of mainstream media has liberal and progressive bias
>libs still think they're the counter culture
We're the punks nao my dude

Oh yeah, all those republican musicians tearing up the charts right now, how could I have forgotten

culture and power go hand in hand. notice how after a countercultural movement there is a period of exhaustion and wallowing in failure. happened to the hippies, happened to punk, now it's going to happen to BLM/SJWs.

if you're looking to the forefront, the real movement was getting people like clinton away from the white house

You have to be doing the opposite of what the political majority are doing to be considered counter-culture. That's kind of why it's called fucking counter-culture.
>Why is everyone with an internet connection and knowledge of the billboard top 100 fucking retarded

>implying that narrow minded trumpeteers can make thought provoking art
My sides

socialism in art hasn't been thought provoking since gang of four

An alt-right musical movement would literally just be InfoWars clips that's the only way they comprehend things

Don't make me laugh my man. The closest the right has ever gotten to producing a punk is Varg, and his music is shit.

>giving a fuck about youtube celebrities and Let's Play bullshit
Fuck off underageb&.

Are there any punk bands that flaunt a conservative ideology in their music? Genuinely curious.

progressive and conservative aren't opposites.

if you're going to speak on these subjects stop shifting goalposts

I wasn't saying that. Given this idea that conservatism is considered "punk," I was curious if any punk bands made songs with conservative viewpoints, that's all

Why does it have to be socialist? Most completely politically charged music sucks anyway. It's more of a left vs right thing. And as history shows clearly the left prevails in creativity

youtube.com/watch?v=NdQb7rTrEPA

because bands don't realize fascism is closer to communism than liberalism is to conservatism on a political spectrum. the mention of most things they hate with no positives about the things they agree with is just pseudo-intellectual complaining. we can't have bruce springsteen being the only true leftist to make pop hits, can we?

t. shalom goldstein

Bruce Springsteen is a national treasure

plenty of punk bands are anti-drugs, pro-seclusion, anti-globalist, and anti-identity politics. in a sense nihilism is right wing

>in a sense nihilism is right wing

Just because I talk about something does not mean I care about it.

well if you consider that progressives want to spend as much money as possible with the biggest government as possible to make everyone happy and have self-worth, then the opposite of that would be nihilism. this has also been written about academically, not responded to with a shit meme

Skewdriver

So how does this work with progressive libertarians?

You have no clue what nihilism means, do you?

i'm looking at nihilism from the viewpoint of a punk musician.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideologies#Nihilism

Do you even know what that word means

>the counter culture is progressive
Watch American TV or Netflix for a few hours and think of all the musicians, actors, etc. in Hollywood. If the counter culture is progressive, then why does the mainstream culture constantly push liberal progressive values?

Name one right-winger that isn't Clint Eastwood or some old fuck who's earned legend status and doesn't care what people think.

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The fucking president

The left dominates popular culture but conservatives have the political power so neither of you are counter culture anymore.

Danzig used to be so hot

Plus his entire administration, congress, over half of the supreme court, governors of many states....etc

Political figure, not Hollywood
Plus he didn't get overtly political until Obama and by that time no one really gave a shit about the apprentice.

I'm talking about hollywood celebrities/actors/entertainers you fucking moron.
Kill yourself.

i'm saying nihilist punks have a lack of social values that lean right wing

rude

Pop culture is pretty liberal but there is a lot of regional variation, the south is very conservative, the midwest is conservative, hell - the entire center of the country.

Politicians have power. Celebrities don't.

They can influence the voters/political climate and young impressionable people who look up to them. It helped Obama get elected.

Are you saying celebrities have more power than the actual political figures in charge

Well then if they're leaning right wing and actually give somewhat of a sit about the political spectrum then they're not really nihilist are they?

Running against someone who has Sarah Palin as his VP pick helped too

I mean if you say anything remotely conservative these days you get the horde of teenage college commies calling you a privileged cis white male and telling you you're a retard because you don't agree with jon oliver or their gender studies professor.

i'm not saying they lean right wing. i'm saying the absence of caring about government programs or other people period makes their ideology and influence closer to right wing than left wing. you don't need to be politically active to have a political voice. just like you don't need to care about economics to prefer cheaper milk

We have Trump because Liberals are fuckin idiots and insult everyday to white people for who the fucksknowanymore and because they choose the most retarder (read: woman) person in the planet, Hillary.
Barnie should win but noooo he is white too :S

>I'm not saying they lean right wing

Then you just defeated your own argument. Nice job

Do you not get it? MOST people in the country think hardcore SJWs/leftists/feminists/BLM/etc. are annoying and disagree with them. Why do you think there's "triggered" memes and edgy nazi memes everywhere on the internet? Why do you think mainstream youtubers and TV shows constantly make fun of them? Ask the average 30-40 something year old in this country or hell even average college student what they think of those people and they'd probably say they disagree with them and make fun of them. They're just a vocal minority that has no real impact on anything.

That could just mean they're less authoritarian, not necessarily less left. Punk is founded on anti-authoritarianism.

Yeah but those people are the reason why a lot of young people are becoming more conservative early on.

The colleges blatantly push this shit on kids too. It's hard to avoid. If you're on a college campus being a republican/right wing is definitely counter culture. Outside of it, not as much.

not if you read past that.

>what is nuance

>mainstream TV makes fun of SJWs
no they make fun of trump supporters and call them fat stupid nascar loving rednecks

this is true. and their speech is more often disrupted.

i guess the marketplace of ideas as a foundation of classical liberalism doesn't translate to today's educational institutions

Republicans make shit music though

TV makes fun of everyone. Stop acting like a victim.

>Republicans control all aspects of government

>They are also counter culture

This doesn't make sense you deluded cuck

Republicans want to go back to the 50s.
The counter culture was about rebelling against the 50s.
The dominant culture in America is still WASP Anglo culture and the counter culture was rebelling against that. Republicans still advocate for that dominant culture.

why can't you just admit the only reason republicans can't be counter-cultural is because they're seen as uncool? we had 8 years of a democrat establishment elitist president after 8 years of a republican establishment elitist president. if you don't think the voters of trump were a major voice of dissatisfaction with the status quo, you're deluded

Counter culture won and became the establishment. The counter culture of the 60s were the boomers.

No the establishment stayed the establishment they just permitted a few ideas from counterculture to slip in and give the illusion of progress.

yeah JFK was so good he got shot. and LBJ was a pillar of the counterculture, right?

Bob Dylan didn't really democrats, and he didn't like the fact people called his songs at the time "protest songs". He actually didn't like it so much he tried everything he could to break away from it.

It's amazing how people called him the voice of a generation in the 60's and he literally wanted nothing to do with the title or the people. He went from a New York hipster to a redneck strapping himself to a tree with roots while people were bawling over Vietnam and muh "we shall over come" bullshit. Why? because people were trying to turn him into something he never wanted to be. They tries giving him awards. awards from the democratic party. he told them he won't be their nigger. and never wrote another left wing democratic song again. (besides hurricane, but that was different).

bottom line, both sides try their hardest to ruin music.

And please don't consider Dylan a face or voice of the left. It's insulting

Nice revisionism. You can like a musician who has different political opinions than you. You don't need to go through mental gymnastics to make believe they think exactly like you do in order to appreciate their music.

dylan's 'fuck everything you think about me' ethos was his best feature. i'm not a fan of his overly-literary references and high-art aesthetic on BoB, but i think you'd have to hate music to hate the immediate connection some of his songs have. i guess that's why he's cited as a reason rock n roll broke into punk

And america followed LBJ's ideals for ever after since? No of course not, society seesaws, lurches left and right, but things gradually settle and move in one direction adopting countercultural ideas once they are safely neutered.

bill clinton's policy was the best, and a lot of libs didn't like him. i guess that means fiscal conservatives are smarter?

mental gymnastics?
did you even read his book Chronicles Vol. 1?

Agreed. Except I love BoB

I'm a part of what some people call the "alt-right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.

>abortions are bad
>bombing terrorists is rad
>guns are great
>but don't ever masturbate

Jesus christ I'm scared of the upcoming music industry

He has a star on the Walk of Fame, how is he not Hollywood