/cric/ Tillakaratne Dilshan farewell edition

Sri Lanka v Australia (19:00 local | 13:30 GMT | 14:30 BST)

Notts 241 & 240 v Middlesex 247 & 48/3 (21 ov, target 235)
Surrey 329 & 23/0 (9 ov) v Hampshire 582/9d
Yorkshire 460 & 225/2d v Durham 265 & 39/3 (16 ov, target 421)

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Cricket is gay

wrong flag m8

I really like this sport

dilshan was a bit shit

just about to go to bed lads

mums drunk again lads

Daniel fix the twitter please, its locked

Did Danny reset the password again?

works for me lads

reminder hugecockthick reads EVERY tweet we send him

going to feature on "Humans of Hobart" lads

the guy took a pensive picture of me while I told him about how my fragile mental state is dependent entirely on the performance of the Australian cricket team. I also snuck in an elite truthie on Mitch Marsh.

>Daniel blogs about changing his handedness
>Cricket Monthly post an elite dissection of it the next day

nigger daniel quite clearly said he was thinking about it because of that article. Daniel even linked it here

Sorry for not being a giant fucking nerd

>"Humans of Hobart"
whats that?

>reads the cricket monthly
>isnt a nerd
sure thing buddy

>Morgan not committing to Bangladesh
>England will realise they don't even need him
>he will return to Ireland
>captain Ireland to their first ever test victory against Zimbabwe

It's literally happening.

The Hobart version of Humans of New York

>captain Ireland to their first ever test victory against Zimbabwe
>implying the ICC Jews will allow for Ireland to play tests anytime before Morgan retired

>plays in Pakistan and Afghanistan for Ireland
>too scared to play in Bangladesh with security approved by the ECB

You really have absolutely no clue about anything, do you?

Ireland are GUARANTEED tests against Zim if they win the Intercontinental Cup. They're currently 4 wins from 4. Morgan is also only 29, he's got at least 7 years left in him.

>Former skipper will be behind the microphone for Nine this summer as well as turning out for his Sydney club team, leaving no time for a BBL gig
Former Australia captain Michael Clarke has revealed he has struck a deal to join Nine's Wide World of Sports commentary team this summer.
>But he did say the commentary gig would prevent him playing in this summer's KFC Big Bash League, although it remained unclear if any club had shown interest in recruiting his signature.
bigbash.com.au/news/michael-clarke-return-western-suburbs-premier-cricket-australia-cricket/2016-09-08


>be Melbourne Stars
>sack Cameron White to sign Kikeal Cuck
>literally a marketing decision
>fucking retarded cricketing decision, White is like 5x better at t20
>Clarke cucks the shit out of you
deserve it tbqh

>However, Clarke has committed to a return in Sydney's Premier Cricket competition.
Sydney 1st grade confirmed more prestigious than the BBL

Afgs home games for I Cup are in india though aren't they?

They were literally about to with the two tier thing m8

Ireland and Afghanistan were going to be promoted and there was going to be a promotion mechanism for other associates.

Nah theyre in UAE usually tho I think they played in India once

Good stuff, he was actually great when he commentated during his injury.

>They were literally about to with the two tier thing m8
Yeah but they're not. The ICC didn't even bother to discuss in their recent conference because of BCCI

The ICC will change their rules for sure, I doubt this will happen soon.

India's their official home ground as of six months ago

I thought he was shit because he was still captain and close to the players so wouldn't say anything substantive

He was quite good last summer though. I think him and MEK Hussey are the future of commentary. Just got to get Based Ponting and sack Brayshaw, Healy & Lee and you have an elite and muscular commentary team.

Literally anything could happen when the right go up tho. Both Channel 9 & 10 are both going for internationals & BBL. Channel 7 for BBL as well.

>The newly rebranded McDonalds™ Super™ Smash™ has been moved to the same slot as the BBL
>New Zealand's most marketable cricketer will LITERALLY choose playing for the worst BBL team over any of our ones

Hopefully this is the slap in the face NZC needs to realise that we desperately need to suck Cricket Australia's dick until they let us into the Big Bash.

>The ICC will change their rules for sure, I doubt this will happen soon.
Why? Because they're evil?

>>New Zealand's most marketable cricketer will LITERALLY choose playing for the worst BBL team over any of our ones
No shit, he will get paid like 10x as much

Atm Channel 10 pays around $20M/year for BBL. When that goes up in 2018 Cricket Australia is expecting a MINIMUM of a tenfold increase on that number and thats assuming they DONT increase the length/size of the competition which would make that number even bigger. So presumably player wages will go up by a similar ratio. There will LITERALLY be millionaires who play nothing but BBL.

I don't think that's going to work Tbh. They'd probably only make a single NZ team, which means that the rest of the country is going to be deprived of domestic T20 experience

I don't really see why it wouldn't in all honesty. There would need to be 3 NZ teams, probably no more, no less. Including the Canberra team that is likely to show up that'll mean 12 teams, the only problem being that it probably wouldn't be a full round robin and would need some memetic conference bullshit.

Actually if you think about it this is fucking dope

In all sports player wages usually account for ~50% of TV revenue

Atm the TV rights for BBL are worth $20MAUD and the salary cap for 8 teams is ~$9M annually.

So presumably when that goes up to $200M annually, the salary cap for 8 teams will be $90-100M annually.

The salary cap for 8 IPL teams is only $~110MAUD annually.

Board of Control for Cuckolds in India on SUICIDE watch

There will NEVER be more than 1 NZ team (which is a massive fucking if anyway) and definitely nothing outside of Auckland (market doesnt justify it) and almost certainly will never be a Canberra team for the same reason.

Why? BBL has never been about profit, it's been about growing the game

Wellington and Christchurch would both pull more than Auckland as well.

someone add this to the collage

Exactly. The format has to change to fit NZ. As it stands with the bye right now, you could squeeze in one NZ team and not affect things too badly. If you then wanted to expand further you'd have to increase the number of games played. That then becomes difficult as you need to make sure it doesn't intrude on international fixtures for both Australia and New Zealand.
They'd also have to introduce NZ teams gradually, which would mean that you're cucking the domestic T20 competition for at least 1 World Cup cycle and potentially more if the 2 year cycle goes ahead. That's ignoring the potential conflict in distributing revenue between the two boards.

>If you then wanted to expand further you'd have to increase the number of games played
Isn't that, like, EXACTLY what Cricket Australia wants to do?

>doesn't live in New Zealand
>has no idea about New Zealand cricket markets
>still acts like an expert on New Zealand's population

Also this

If NZ only gets one team I'd put it in Christchurch, unironically. Though more likely it would be Wellington.

>its a Daniel completly fails to grasp the economics of cricket episode

>Why? BBL has never been about profit, it's been about growing the game
Which is an ends to the means of making a profit, in AUSTRALIA

They would only consider adding a NZ team if there was a financial incentive to do so. The only market NZ has that potentially justifies such a move is Auckland. There are towns in Australia with a bigger market than fucking CrushedChurch.

"growing the game" in New Zealand is a complete non-issue for the AUSTRALIAN Cricket Board.

True, but I do live in Australia, and I can quite accurately gauge what Cricket AUSTRALIA's priorities will be, NONE of which will be the development of the game in New Zealand.

nah theyve never said they want to do that. BBL works because of its niche in the school holidays. Growing outside of that is a risk. Even the 2-3 games in December before school holidays begin get poor crowds.

Read the rest. It's doable for a single board, but when you get two it becomes much more difficult. They also want to expand it for Australia to strengthen Australian T20 talent. Setting that aside to let New Zealand in is contrary to Cricket Australia's interests.

Crowd gates are irrelevant, its just about the TV contract they can get in New Zealand

The question they will ask is: if we put a team in New Zealand, what location will maximise the number of people watching it (and in turn the value of the TV contract they can sell to Sky or whatever) ?

If the answer to that question is Wellington or Christchurch, then cricket must be dead in Auckland and New Zealand will never get a team period.

Okay dude, sure, tell me about the cricket loving population in my own city, a city that doesn't even have a cricket ground.

This is... exactly what I'm saying, you retard. BUT if NZC can hold up their own teams, I don't see why it would cause any conflict, the only problem is possibly that there'd be too many games.

I'm not saying CA want it. I'm saying that we need it and it would unironically be worth paying them off to get it.

How does any of that make a difference? How does basing a team in Wellington affect how many people watch on TV?

NZC don't have enough money to pay off one of the Big 3. I'm fairly sure they run at an annual loss.

The other thing is, creating a franchise in another country is a risk, especially one where the models from other sports havent exactly been successful. The NRL team has been okay from what I gather but the Ayy teams have been absolute flops.

So the maximum risk they will realistically take is one team incrementally. It would be a five year trial or something similar.

>Okay dude, sure, tell me about the cricket loving population in my own city, a city that doesn't even have a cricket ground.
see >If the answer to that question is Wellington or Christchurch, then cricket must be dead in Auckland and New Zealand will never get a team period.

>How does any of that make a difference?
>why would people from Auckland support a team in Auckland
>why would the larger number of people in Auckland watching cricket be worth more than the smaller number of people in Wellington
Are you fucking retarded?

Ayy is always going to be a flop Tbh. The Australian sides fail to break even. I'm pretty sure a Brisbane side went belly up too, but I don't really follow it so I could be wrong.

Yes, and having a domestic T20 league that people actually show up to is a step towards fixing that.

>The NRL team has been okay from what I gather but the Ayy teams have been absolute flops.
Jesus remind me to never take anything you say seriously. Literally the other way around. Don't put teams in Auckland, they'll fail.

You don't understand how NZ works, we don't kill each other based on cities. The TV audience for an Auckland team would be identical to the TV audience for a Wellington team. Only difference would be attendances. Although, I'd say people would enjoy the Wellington team more because they wouldn't have to look at eden partk

>These elite truth bombs

Will Cricket NZ ever recover?

>Yes, and having a domestic T20 league that people actually show up to is a step towards fixing that.
KEK, it doesn't even come close. NZC would only get a fraction of the profit CA get from TV rights since they're not the selling point of the league. Even if they did, that's just a drop in the ocean compared to Cricket Australia net revenue. South Africa turn regular profits in every single area, even their first class leagues. They still don't have enough money to come close to the big 3.

>You don't understand how NZ works, we don't kill each other based on cities. The TV audience for an Auckland team would be identical to the TV audience for a Wellington team.
I won't argue with you because I can't disprove what you're saying, but I would say this sounds quite improbable and flies in the face of any contemporary example I can think of.

The only thing I could think they'd do is try and brand the team as a New Zealand representative team, like the Warriors are doing in the NRL now and play in BOTH Auckland and Wellington. That might be the best way to maximise the TV market.

I'm not trying to rubbish the idea of NZ having a BBL team, I wouldn't mind the idea. But you have to think about it practically. Realistically, IF NZ gets a team, its going to be on these terms

>one team, staffed by the best NZ non-international players (this is important because it would detract from the NZ domestic season going on at the same time presumably)
>based predominantly out of Auckland, possibly with games in other cities

The question NZC have to ask, is that deal worth it for them? Equally, CA have to decide if the money is enough of an incentive for them?

had a good chuckle at this one lads

>tfw /cric/ found your favourite ironic cricket meme page

Cricket Australia is surely one of the most profitable sporting organisations in the world.

They have a comparable annual revenue to the ECB & BCCI, but only a fraction of the running costs.

The fact they're plowing millions into muh womyns every year kind of indicates how much cash they have to burn.

And the other thing is: I can't see Cricket Australia even going into business with NZC on the BBL as a joint venture. It is their product, they produce all the value and it would create a legal nightmare.

So if NZ had a team in the BBL, it would come under the jurisdiction of CA like with the Warriors and ARL and Wellington Phoenix and FFA.

So the other question NZC have to ask, would they permit their players (and venues) to come under the control of a foreign cricket board?

The ECB could have so much more money if they ditched their stupid fucking county system. They're obsessed with muh tradition when they're getting no benefit whatsoever from keeping their shit division three teams professional

>you werent born English
>you will NEVER make a career as a Div2 County trundler
Absolutely seething

>10 team World Cup - played in round robin
>8/10 teams will qualify for the QF
what even is the fucking point

Will Twink Pooult be effective in India?

Cricket would literally be played in 25 countries if I were in charge of the ICC

Pooult isn't effective anywhere m8
Reminder he was out bowled in his own conditions by Mitch fucking Marsh

woops just checked, its only semis

okay that is a fucking elite format.

its already played in 105 countries you casual

talking about test teams m8

The funniest thing about that series was the Poo Peeland commentators Tbh
Ian Smith spent the entire New Zealand innings whining about batsmen friendly conditions and how flat the pitch was and would then sit in silence while the might of Bird and Marsh were shitting swing with every single delivery.
Pooult and Shithee are confirmed Bondbabbies

I know everything about cricket administration, no seriously, I mean there is not one thing I don't know about it, the boards, the associates, the econmics, leagues and administrators. I can't even begin to tell you how many irrelevant cricket boards I follow on twitter but let me tell you it's a lot, a hell of a lot. For all intensive purposes I should just hold back some of this mountain of knowledge I possess, my mind is just a powerhouse of financial facts and figures, but what can I say I like to educate my fellow International Cricket Council friends, surely you've all seen me relentlessly push overhauled administrative structures on here for years now and seen my superior knowledge of the economics and seen my sharp wit and clever use of mattposting at play. Surely you have seen me post picture after picture of stats and facts that prove how GOAT my governance knowledge is. It's all been for you fellow brothers, I know you all respect me an have huge amounts of admiration for me and my sydney first grade experience, as a great man once said, I'm responsible for 100% of cricket posts on here, well I said it but you know it's true anyway. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to captain the Rwanda in International Cricket Captain 2016.

Reminder we literally could have had a Super 15 T20 tournament with Australia and South Africa if NZC and CSA weren't such money-hating morons.

>literally, LITERALLY got dropped in place for Milne and McLelagain

what do you think m8?

He will LITERALLY pad his stats with a useless 5-for in a dead rubber when India are already 400 ahead

>the one guy who can reverse the ball for New Zealand does nothing but bowl 130kph chin music

I literally seethe

/hayne/ is up lads

is this /cric/ approved?

Wouldn't work with SA because of timezones. Even a 3-hour T20 is a nightmare because of jetlag, scheduling would be terrible

BUT a NZ-Aus one would be fine, despite the furious australians ITT attempting to claim otherwise for no reason other than their irrational hatred for New Zealand.

Yeah because Super Rugby has been such an overwhelming success

morons

no one is saying they wouldn't like to see it you fucking mong, it's just NEVER going to happen because it's not in Cricket Australia's best interests

Changes to be considered
Tests

- Present FTP arrangements to be maintained but a Test Championship playoff between the top two teams to be played every two years, most likely hosted at a neutral venue

- Playoff added to calendar as early as 2019

- Teams to retain individual responsibility to negotiate for Test series with other nations

ODIs and T20s

- ODI league structure to be implemented in time to feature qualifying for 2023 World Cup

- League to be played out over three years with 13 countries to play each other in at least one series in that time

- Final year of cycle to feature World Cup qualification playoffs for teams that do not automatically qualify

- Similar T20 league structure to be introduced

- Limited-overs series lengths to be standardised as three ODIs and three T20s

espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/1055647.html?CMP=chrome

These are MUCH better proposals than muh 2 divisions

>- Limited-overs series lengths to be standardised as three ODIs and three T20s
too many odis

Eh most of these are decent but they all feel like half-baked ideas

The ODI league thing is neat and might actually get people to care about them but it feels like a last gasp of a dying format

Also FUCK 3 T20Is holy shit

You're right, but I feel like if NZC do enough to hold up their end it COULD work. It's not in their BEST interest, but if they're not LOSING anything either I don't see why they wouldn't do it.

its an improvement on the standard 5 that AUS/ENG/IND tend to play

also cans the even dumber two-match t20 series which seem to be standard for some unknown reason

Just joined a new club for the upcoming t20 season

Which league lad?

>- League to be played out over three years with 13 countries to play each other in at least one series in that time
I also don't really know if this is a great idea desu, it means #13 (probably netherlands) gets fucking 20 odd games against top nations, whereas #14 (probably scotland) gets fucking zilch.

>Shitriques playing in a team with a gorillion bowling options
>Wade playing as a specialist batsman with Nevill in the same XI
hmm

Why does Australia ALWAYS have the worst selectors? Even fucking Hesson is better than these clowns

>1am again
Why do I do this to myself?

the french canadian pussy isn't going to fuck itself

please don't use my gimmicks

You bet it wont, time to go for another party now.

...

anyone else have a fetish for having sex in a full cricket kit?

I haven't done it myself but the idea interests me

I think it could work - a couple of early morning games is not the end of the world.

I used to be really pro-NZ being in the Women and Children's League and I still think it can work, but I do worry that it's just going to harm New Zealand talent by just having 1-2 token teams. It's fine for meme sports like soccer and plebgue where the demand and participation is so low, but for cricket, especially now as participation rates are on the rise, is worrying.

The domestic T20 could work if NZC had a clue about scheduling and marketing. If they shaved off 5 off the billion ODIs this summer, the national squad could all be available and it would boost ratings.

Most of the games last summer were during the Australian tour when the weather was still pretty rainy. If they had any sense they'd move it to the back end of the summer(Feb-March) and have the final be the last game of the season across both domestic and international formats. That way you can get all the best players and pull a decent crowd.

Boy's club

>Australia, will never, EVER, have Steve Waugh's muscular mind shaping their next generation

Mark Waugh is a clown

i didnt, but now I do

I'm literally going to spend the next weeks pondering how I will accomplish this

replacing S Waugh with Ponting and I agree with everything else you said

Either would be good. Ponting lives and breathes cricket so you can bet he'll actually follow the domestic scene.

>The domestic T20 could work if NZC had a clue about scheduling and marketing. If they shaved off 5 off the billion ODIs this summer, the national squad could all be available and it would boost ratings.
Oh fuck yes. I understand why NZC needs to pack in all these meme ODIs in meme cities like the Mount - because they sell out. But imagine if they actually made the T20s appealing, they wouldn't even need the ODI series, because people would go to the local games and the revenue and interest would be from those. The "finals day" last year LITERALLY had 25 people at it.

Personally I think 3 teams in the Big Bash would be great, but they would need to be regional teams like Super Rugby not city teams. Otago/Canterbury, Wellington/Central and Northern/Auckland. That north team, including two overseas would be fucking formidable at full strength.

The only cricket kit I have that (fits) is a 2015 WC jersey and cap from the 90's with 'ACB' emblazoned on it. Going to need to buy some pants.

Listen to Pontings commentary during the BBL and you will learn how elite and muscular his cricket brain is. Also read his book, same thing.

Mike Hussey said Ponting was the real Mr. Cricket and used to read the paper every week to check the scores in grade cricket and keep an eye on how everyone was doing.

But on your comments of "harming NZ talent", I say this - do we really need to have a feeder league for international T20? Is domestic not the pinnacle of T20? If NZ's meme league is reduced to 2 teams and only 22 players get game time you may say that's bad for our development, but what do we honestly need T20 development for? The WT20? Development is in the other formats because internationals in those formats are actually relevant, I don't think reducing the T20 pool is necessarily bad.

you're both missing the part of how >you (NZ) convince CA to any of this

Cricket isn't Rugby in Australia. Our country cares about the sport and the Australian market dwarfs the NZ & SA markets, combined.

There is zero incentive for CA to g into business with NZC or CSA in any way, shape or form other than international cricket.

You are aware that this is my original point, you mongoloid

The question you have to ask is, what would be better for NZ cricket: having 1 team in a high profile Australian comp with internationals etc and big TV money. Or a small scale domestic league with how ever many teams it is and no internationals or anything?

I think theres a genuine danger with the former as well that if NZ had a BBL team operating under the salary cap that the BBL will have from 2018, the players in that team will unironically be earning (far) more money than the guys playing for the NZ national team which would threaten the existence of international cricket in New Zealand.

its probably safer for NZC to stay out of it

One team isn't worth it. 2 probably would be, but NZC would still want to keep our own tiny league which is pointless. 3 would work, definitely.

I also don't care about players choosing T20 over internationals, if they're good at T20 I don't want them in muh test team