What was the message here?

What was the message here?
he got away with everything in the end

People don't change.

I dont care what yall think but I personally felt physically sick at the sound of classical and violence, it reminded me that I was human and I should be repulsed by this shit and now I'm a fumbling idiot trying his hand at sincerity

and theres no message. he was "cured" and the powers that be guaranteed him a comfy life for his complacence.

Always read the whole book when adapting a movie.

everyone was an edgy teenager at one point

Think the original source material has a redemption ending.

That Kubrick couldn't be bothered to read the entirety of a book before adapting it

> works of art have message

Hahaha

To be fair to Kubrick, Burgess didn't blame him because the American version lacked the final chapter.

It's not even really that, he gets older and gets tired of being a piece of shit. He doesn't really redeem himself or anything he just doesn't find the same satisfaction in it as he used to, basically the moral argument is that teenagers are kind of shit people, but most eventually get away from it relatively unscathed and grow out of doing shitty things if left to their own devices.

It should be pretty obvious.

The moral is that people should be able to choose what they do, even if they choose to do wrong. It would be more humane to imprison or kill someone than to take away their will.

In the last chapter Alex grows up when he meets Pete and his wife one night at some restaurant

>uuuh the bad guy nid to pey for his crim or els this movi has no messg
>i hav 65 iq

this p much
mb a protest against "rehabilitation" that hurts more than it helps...

To add to this, you're subhuman if you think Alex did not pay for his crimes.

>he was cured

Yeah, I know. It's still kinda dumb that it was left out of the American version in the first place and that Kubrick didn't look into it at all, because where the American version ends is pretty clearly not the end. I dunno, I really dig the movie as a whole, it's one of my favorites probably, but the last chapter is probably the most important part of the whole story in that it's a huge part of the social commentary Burgess was trying to make and wraps up Alex's character arc.

This guy gets to live in a cell nice than my apartment.

He killed 70 some odd kids and blew up a van near a government building that killed a few more people.

In REAL LIFE. He got 21 years in prison.

Europe doesn't believe in prison.

>the message should be that Alex pays for his crime
>muuh good vs evil muuh black and white perception of things


idiot

what happens in the final chapter?

Conversely in 'Merica it's possible to spend your ENTIRE LIFE in prison for stealing a couple hundred dollars

How do you make a movie, a huge costly project that takes a shit ton of time, and not do your research on one fucking book?

Shut up King

Are you defending him?

The final chapter was shit.

Just a hamfisted message about how it's better to create than destroy.

Not saying it's a great excuse, but none the less he wasn't aware.
this

They made him worse

Alex's love for music was one of his few redeeming qualities, and they twisted it for obedience. Even with the conditioning undone, he isn't quite the same person, and most likely never will be again.