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1st for dead guitar

>*plonk*

Change your strings

No

>ehhhh

>plop

>ick, that sounds like the stuff they use in toilet plumbing

>*plink*

>ehhh that's 6 in .5 out

>tfw no twink jap guitarist bf

>*ping-ing-ing-ing*

>WEW LISTEN TO THAT VIBRATE
>WOW LISTEN TO THAT
>THATS A NUT THAT WOULD MAKE AN EXTRAORDINARY INSTRUMENT WOW
>STILL VIBRATING user YOU SEE THAT
>WOW THATS THE PRS ANCIENT ARCTIC MASTADON IVORY NUT WITH ALUMINUM DUSTING®f f
>WEW
>THATS 6 in 5.9 out ®
>THATS NOT A SUBRACTIVE INSTRUMENT WEW

Are these meme basses, I really want one because if the aesthetic, but I don't want to drop all that money on a meme bass

Is there actually any practical difference between a guitar and a more expensive version of it?

For example an $800 Strat vs an $1800 Strat.

Better quality finish, nicer wood, higher end pickups and better electronics thats it

practically, they are both pieces of wood with strings so no.

$800 and $1800, not much.... $150 and $800 HUGE difference. It's mostly the cheap fretwork,hardware and electronics you have to look out for. Most mid-range guitars are usually pretty good and comparable to their expensive counterparts.

the difference between a mim strat and a MIA strat is that a mexican made one in mexico and the other in california. unless its a custom shop or vintage reissue, dont buy USA fender.

Why buy Fender when a top line Squier will do?

>top of the line
>basswood

The cheaper the guitar the less man hours it took to build essentially.

THe super cheap ones cut more corners. The custom shops are usually made all by hand and the US and Mexican ones come off a line. The US line spends more time per instrument than mexico where they spend more time than asia.

Really the important stuff is the wood, which has to dry out before its cut or it will warp as the seasons change and moisture enters and leaves the guitar which will make it unplayable. (I have this problem in an $800 Asian guitar). The frets are filed, rounded in the US, not in the others, the bridges are more detailed and have the newer designs in the US. Picks ups in Asia are wound fast and non specifally making them super dirty and muddy. The tone knobs in the Asian instruments barely do anything but they do work. Sometimes they glue wires instead of soldering them to save time. The US guitars go through a pleking machine.

The midrange guitars get 80% of the way to the high ends and if you know how to work on your instrument you can get it there UNLESS the wood itself isn't properly treated then the wood itself is trash and so is the whole instrument.

My Asian midrange guitar is unplayable in winter when the moisture leave the air and leaves the guitar. The fretboard almost bubbles and the 16th fret activates when you press the string down on fret 5-16.

The USA has a premium for several reasons

1. US workers get paid more than Mexican ones
2. USA woods sit for much longer in a dehumidifying chamber
3. the guitar is finished and polished and measured to much greater detail in the USA. They simply spend more time on them.

The high end Mexicans are good sounding guitars but they still have the types of problems that arise when they age. Some of which I named above.

If you are savy you can fix them but its kind of like fixing a car where you could do ti but it takes time to learn to do it right.

What are you listening to /gg/

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Where was your asian guitar made? I've personally had wonderful luck with some japanese guitars.

I think that asia is too big to generalize this topic the way you are. There are great and terrible instruments coming out from those areas. It just depends on the manufacturer and the location of the factory.

yeah boy

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this is all bullshit that only people who cant play music care about

a guitar is a guitar

I mean it is definitely a factor and it's worth knowing to an extent though. Lemons should be avoided.

Not true, every professional guitarist I know is way more of a gearfag than I am. I don't know where this "only amateur players care about gear" meme comes from..

Overdrive or fuzz for bass?

>"only amateur players care about gear"

Thats not the point. The point is, where a guitar is physically manufactured is of little concern if it feels right to you. I play my Vietnamese LTD more than my Usa Gibson. It costs a 5th the price but I just enjoy playing it more. I don't give a shit about how dry the wood is or what season it was mad in or whatever.

Sovtek big muff pi

China.

The Japanese factory I really didn't mean to count as Asia. Those instruments are basically US quality. The instrument I had from there was flawless.

Basically the general trend is Korea>China>Indonesia.

I've owned many mid range guitars and the older ones all had terrible problems that revealed themselves with age.

Id bet most people buying in this price range wont be playing the instrument by time it becomes apparent though to be honest.

USA guitars play great and age well.

The chink and spic instruments I feel you really roll the dice with.

The instruments are usualy made from small pieces of wood, the metal even Mexican ones are not stainless steel but some chink scrap metal alloy.

Its funny all these comparison videos online always have some guitar shop selling brand new instruments from the factory going wow it plays great nad its way cheaper.

Give it 5+ years of gentle use and compare.

I've even had bridges on Mexican teles rust. Just silly stuff.

If you happen to get the nice guitar with some iron and cobalt in the bridge and the wood that was dried properly and throw in some pickups you'll do ok. But you could end up with a piece of junk that has to be replaced.

>I-its just a piece of wood, its what you play that counts

fuck off poor fag. THe Mexicans are 3 or more pieces of wood in the body and the US 2. The US wood is treated to remove moisture the Mexican is not. The US wood I polished better and cut more conservatively. The neck is PLEKd and smoothed and made from one piece of wood. The Mexican two or more.

More glue in the instrument the less it vibrates the more it weighs.

That's just the wood alone.

Not to mention if you buy US you aren't buying a Mexican immigrant and sending money to mexico .

>usa Gibson

post pic with stamp or bs

Wow you are really passionate about where your guitar is made and shit huh
(it means you can't play)

Favorite albums

Ah gotcha. I've never had a chinese guitar but even the korean made ones I've tried have been severely hit or miss.

The way I've always looked at it is, the cheaper the guitar, the more likely that it will turn out to be a problem in the long run.

The money some people spend upgrading cheap instruments...

Still gonna need that pic and stamp

What the fuck are you, a Sup Forums poster?

Porque no los dos?

If you read the post you'd realize I can't play because my $800 acoustic guitar is warps every winter and becomes literally unplayable. It was made in china. And it has the same problems that a lot of other instruments from that part of the world have.

If you have to literally just have one, probably overdrive.

But man I have so much fun with fuzz. The Dirt Transmitter makes any bass sound like the end of days. God, it makes me so fucking happy.

FWN is one of them

Pic related is best of the best

how about stop playing your guitar in the snow dumbfuck

Kek

>warps every winter and becomes literally unplayable
>playable again when it's not winter
Sorry but I have to call bullshit on this one. Unless you're one of those people who can't play if your action is raised 0.1mm higher.

I take it your mission is proceeding adequately Mr. Bond?

Heard of them but never listened to them. I'll check it out thanks.

Lemme know what you think

That album is everything I've based my guitar playing off of (no bully)

I want one of these so bad
Gotta sell some of my other shit.

lol k
For $800 I shouldn't have to raise the action to ridiculous levels my friend not that it is that simple.

I'm not a poorfag so I can afford a guitar that was made right.

The question was 'what is the difference between a MiM start and a USA strat. I'm here telling you the difference I have experienced after owning many of such instruments.

If some of you guys can't afford a nice instrument or want to play with your action 5mm high over 12fret go ahead and get a gook guitar. But lets not pretend there is no difference.

Play what makes you happy man. I was going to sell my Strat to get a Tele. Bought a Squier Affinity Tele and love the shit out of it.

The bridge is too bright for me. I usually play more rhythm so I use the middle pickup the most.

I'll sell you mine for 400

I listened to some songs and Worth the Wait is pretty good.

My favorite band right now is Last Dinosaurs. Their first album is great.
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Sounds more like you got scammed into buy 2 junk guitars when you first started and it gave you PTSD.
>I'm not a poorfag so I can afford a guitar that was made right.
Cool then, nice spend on those autismbux.

And their second album has some synths and more dance. Great album as well.
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1:30 am on a Saturday is prime try and convince people that squier chinkplanks are good guitars hours.

V nice!
I asked /gg/ about how they got their lead sound on 'Zoom' a few months ago haha

Idk what your going on about now but you still havn't posted that Gibson USA yet user.

Not same guy, go tell that other faggot.

Sounds something out of Mega Man

>Getting triggered by people who Squier guitar

I also have one of those squier affinity teles that ive played the shit out of over the years

they are amazing for $180

It's OD + (the main thing) finger placement/dexterity + compressor

If I have a MIM Strat which handles amazing, there's no point going American right?

any of you guys into jAZ guitar?

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No pickguard? You have gone mad.

Compressor makes sense. Love the Caribbean steel drum effect on Andy.
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for some reason the squier teles dont have the under pickgaurd route like the legit fenders have so you can remove the guard easy
its strange

Put flat wounds on it and you'll get that Beatles tons
It's also really light comfy to play standing up

favorite phasers?

>Always had problem hitting pickup switch on Strat
>removed the knob

Custom

>pickup switch
>removed the knob

huh

MXR Phase 90.
EHX Small Stone.

That's gonna hurt. Just correct your technique user.

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I'm gonna guess you mean the S-1 switch?

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but that's not a knob

I'm so used to pick guards I couldn't imagine playing without it.

It hardly makes a difference though. I guess your pick might bounce of the wood differently, but that'd be about it, no?

Haven't had a problem the past couple of years

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thoughts?

I don't think it would be drastic but looks weird without it.

esp throbber is pretty much a tele body with no guard
i think they look bad ass

pretty cool

>bounce off the wood
What the fuck? Are you hitting the actual guitar when you pluck a string?

Pic related, tasty aesthetics. The racing stripe makes you play faster too.

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Yours looks like a different guitar, It doesn't look cheap anymore, and now I'm feeling the black pick guard on the butterscotch looks kind of ugly.

Question regarding "tone"woods. Hollow body guitars sound very different to solid body guitars despite having the same pickups (i.e. Les paul vs 335) and if you stick a Tele pickup in a strat it doesn't sound like a Tele due to the metal plate surrounding the bridge pickup not being present on a strat.

So surely that would suggest there is more to a sound than purely the pickups as the anti "tone"wood people suggest?

I'm not sure I buy the fact there are massive differences between different woods, but surely it isn't unreasonable to suggest it will have a slight impact on the sound of the guitar?

>I don't give a shit about how dry the wood is or what season it was mad in or whatever.
But if the wood isn't treated properly you may well run into problems if you take it out on tour and play constantly in different environments / temperatures / humidities. You don't want to be constantly adjusting your guitar in that situation.

Granted for 95% of players a mid range guitar is all you need. Put it this way, if my USA Strat was stolen I would replace it with a good MIM one. I love it, but the new Mexican ones are so good I don't see the point.

Is Sonic Blue the best color?

I find this as well. I play with my hand over the bridge and find I constantly hit the volume knob and the pickup switch on Strats. Personally I think it is a crap design, and I am not going to go through all the effort of changing my technique when it works perfectly on a Les Paul or a Tele or any guitar when the controls aren't in the way

The honest truth is the same guitar can sound totally different to different people, even if its literally the same sound. "tone" is so subjective, and so psychological, I wouldn't even bother to try and quantify it. Just be the best player you can and your natural sound will always be paramount.

Les Paul's are uncomfortable as fuck to play. No arm contour, heavy, unbalanced. Poor upper fret access, fragile headstock. It's just a fucking disaster

you're right, but if you want to be a rock badass you need to wield a paul.

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I wish I had big hands

i have no problema playing a les paul with small hands
just get a brand that its les paul copy has smaller string-to-string spacing

also fucking Paul Kossoff dude

theres no way you can hold a guitar this low and play great with small hands though

inb4 hate, because richard fortus is literally one of the best modern rock guitarists

Les Paul's are bitch boy guitars. I literally can't play one because they're too small to play sitting down. Your hands are probably big enough to comfortably play a Les Paul .