What's your political view?

I'm a fascist/traditionalist. Around my libtard friends I'm just a slightly more conservative liberal.

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Take it Sup Forums David-san

I'm not David, but I'm Davido's son

back to Sup Forums reactionary scum

Socialist.

I tend to be much more moderate around my friends but internally I'm more extreme in my right-wingedness

the issue is that nobody seems to have my ideology irl or even online that I've seen. Sup Forums is too racialist, I don't believe in race differences but I do believe culture/nationality is the highest order of human organization and must be preserved at all cost, and culture is very often connected to race.

It's hard to describe. Mix of Zizek and Fukuyama

This is a socialist board

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This is a libertarian board. I want collectivist socialist fascists to leave.

Bash the fash, shred the red t'bh

I want what they have in singapore for our cities and what they have in the swizz for the countryside.

I belive in the importance of both democracy and national/ethnic identity, a compromise must be found and a common uniting factor to be enforced strictly should we become a multicultural state.

The first two didn't kill enough tbqh

Extremist retards. Centre right is the only sensible way to go

I'm an unironic National Socialist, m'lady.

>60m?
>they counted civil war losses, hunger losses and people who would be born if revolution didn't happen

rosa never truly worked a day in her life but thought she be entitled to speak for the workforce and would have become some part of a detached elite looming over a DDR like shithole if she would have had her way.
Fuck that bitch.

>Fascism
>Reactionary

I think ur confused m8

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>tfw I've seen a documentary and I've read a few chapters about her
>she was ill jewish girl who was cucked by her bf
her life was quite bitter 2bh

this is a /natsoc/ board

Center left.

Same can be said about goebble-kun, but that guy also turned out to be a cunt who shouldnt have has power.

>Wake up
>This is your view

What do senpai?

Have you ever been laid and what is your social like like? Do you watch anime?

wtf i love the leaf now

Communism is shit.
Communism is a loser's choice.
Communism is a brother of facism.
Communism works if humans were robots.

Only during the night when n*wworlders are awake. Can't wait for the kids to sleep

Ja Heil!

Not him obviously but I've had sex numerous times and my social life is great, I have great relationships with my friends and family and I regularly take part in my local community.

Becoming a Fascist has only improved my life in every way. I don't watch anime.

I've gotten laid once, I'm currently a recluse and I don't watch anime.

>Becoming a Fascist has only improved my life in every way. I don't watch anime.

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wtf i hate fascism now because of le vaping guy meme

I'm an unironical Conservative social democrat, bite me spooks.

Probably a slightly left leaning libertarian sorta.
Hard to classify what my political view is.

I would prefer a decentralized global world order in which each state/region is left to their own devices while we are all unified by a global culture that is pushed by the free market. And centralization is reserved for certain times/topics such as war and scientific advancement.

Basically elite power hungry assholes are my sworn enemies.

You'll grow out of it.

That pic really made me think

And grow into what?

Probably a normal right winger.

Left-of-centre.

Conservative

Who makes the global culture?
Popular decision?
Have fun with Africa-tier "democracy"+Islam and asian authoritarianism.

reminder

"Conservatism conserves the previous iteration of liberalism"

It's retarded. What would I want to conserve?

The culture would mainly be pushed by marketing and the like. In the similar way that American consumerism spread. Of course there would need to be checks to certain things. Some limits on regional governments, but most of the day to day running would be at the local level.
Education would also be one thing that would be standardized across this world order hopefully. Not "American" standardized, but standardized in quality to the best of people's abilities.

What ever you want. Religion? Tradition? Government policy? Demographics? It can all be done without having someone like Hitler.

Also Islam isn't the problem. The overly conservative culture that many Muslims bring is.

you underestimate the stupidity of these spergs
it's legitimately sad to think some of them are actually over the age of 18

There is nothing worth conserving in the rapidly decaying modern world.

"Conservatism" would simply delay the process that will occur. What IS needed is a complete tear-down of the system. That's the essential "end-game" of Fascists. Once that happens is when we can start to rebuild society.

Hitler didn't invent Fascism and Fascism long predates the 20th century.

>Religion
Semitic religions is what caused this decay in the first place.

>Tradition
There is no tradition worth preserving in the modern world.

>this retarded fascist leaf that spams the thread multiple times to make his views seem widespread

All muslims, the most moderates included, believe the Quran is the literal word of god manifested in ink as dictated by an angel right into the prophets head. It happens to be an overly conservative book btw.

There's another Canadian in the thread, also I'm not trying nor do i care for my views to be widespread. I don't expect them to be.

I hope they will eventually realize that speeches are just empty propaganda and that both extremes have equally hitting speeches that are meant to relate to a common man. That the military parades aren't anything special, that "cool uniforms" aren't everything in the world and that a thriving economy > a huge military.

How can you be fascist as a leaf?
You guys dont even have a national myth.

He's underage check the archive.

oh you're the same faggot who hate the modern world. What the fuck is wrong with the modern world and everything it provides you including safety, health, a chance at being someone in life and a higher life expectancy? Why the edgy obsession with tearing everything civilizations have fought to make possible for centuries?What the fuck do you want? I bet you don't even know. What's so "bad" about the modern world you're so ungrateful for, and what's your fucking utopia?

I just got done having this debate with someone on another site today. People are individuals. The only reason Islam is so apparent is due to the cultural issues of their region. Yet most of them are still okay people, despite what you believe.

Also it's not my fault that your stupid ass government decided to let shit tons of people from problematic regions into your country. That's going to cause some issues no matter what religion they have.

What makes you think that?

Ofc people are individuals, but how the fuck dont you see a connection between culture and religion?
Slavery was abolished in medieval europe because the culture got influenced by christianity. islamic countries are very conservative because Islam encourages the individual to submit to such a way of thinking.

What do you dont understand of that?

Why do you willingly want someone to tell you how to think and behave?

reminder to get back to Sup Forums fascist scum

People who believe that the accumulated knowledge of their forebears trumps their individual judgement do.
Also people who question their abilities in the face of more sucessful charismatic people they know or heard of and envision as naturally born leaders to lift them a bit up.

Not everyone is spiritual, and to the non-spiritual Muslim (At least those living in the west) there is little difference between them, and the rest of us.

The problem arises when the non-spiritual people are forced into spirituality. They will either become unhappy, or (if they are emotional people as well) grow angry. Years of people being brainwashed by the overly conservative regions of MENA have led to the modern issues we see coming from the region.

The religion itself is not to blame. We don't need some crusade against the religion. We need to fight the conservative nature of the regions.
Religions is malleable, and can be used by anybody to serve their needs or make them feel better. Ask the leader of ISIS. I'm sure he would agree with that statement.

that's exactly what protestants believe about the bible... I see no problem with religious people believing that their holy text isn't bullshit. Moderates just find a way to ignore the bad parts or change their meanings through mental gymnastics

>It's a politics thread
>He gets upset that some people have different political views than he does

>it's the people, not the religion!
Islam is fucked up, man.
Take a look at the Qur'an.
It is full of sexism and bigotry.

Most Muslims are okay people because they don't follow the Qur'an word to word, and they have their own sense of morality.

You're not wrong. I'm not saying that the religion is inherently good in all things. Most religious texts have problems, but the people of those faiths manage to become good because they hold on to the nice parts of their religion while building their own morality around society to fill the gaps left by abandoning the poor parts.

>Religions is malleable, and can be used by anybody to serve their needs or make them feel better. Ask the leader of ISIS. I'm sure he would agree with that statement.

What kind of hippie are you?
Religion is malleable when you have an autist circlejerk forcefully imposing new dogmas derived from the old ones by violence.
The current "hurr the word of god is what I want it to be" mentality is just a contemporary dogma that has been fought for with massive casualities.
Religion is so deeply embedded into the culture that brought it forth that it acts as a preserving force of the same, if someone tampers with it heads will roll.
The leader of ISIS would simply say he folllows the word of god as the conquerors of afghanistan and india did as this is the most straighforward way to understand it, he knows you disagree so he kills until noone disagrees as killing for such truth is for him as selfevident as you might think that killing is rightful if done to protect religious freedom.

Yes, people are kind and inconsequential by heart and shift meaning to make life easier.
But that doesnt changes the fact that their religion influences them and the way they interact and may call them or their children back to zealous behaviour if the time is right.

It is completely irrelevant if protestants believe the same as the content of what they believe to be truth in the same way muslims do is indeed very different.

>still no reply
as expected. Maybe he's watching an infowars video so he can transcribe a reply

So, basically budhism is the best religion

>infowars

So you admit finally that religion is not some gooey stuff that gets abused by evil culture but that it is the people acting against the faith by their own volition or because they made use of te space the religion leaves for leniency.
What you dont seem to accept is that this just goes on forever and that its not birthrate or pressure that makes people periodically go back to the core of what they have been taught to be eternal truth.
This makes people of other religions fundamentally different from you, its simply hidden when life is good, jobs, women and food is plenty.

He thinks he would be one of the nobles when in reality he would be one of the serfs.

Depends.
In Tibetan bhuddism it is totally legit to sacrifiece humans to mongol deities of war should the faith be endangered by people who will risk your and the faithfuls peaceful quest for enlightenment.

>having a rigid belief to an ideology
>not having a malleable belief to the best current ideology
daily reminder that i am the most POWERFUL race in the world

Al Baghdadi (hehe) is a man who manipulates. While it's possible that he believes the crap he pushes. I think it's more likely that he uses it as a rallying call inside, and outside of his own mind. While still looking down on those he commands, and fully understanding the nature of his religion to be used to justify many types of actions.

Also religion can, and has changed with the culture of the times. Usually the resulting conflict comes when adherents to the conservative thought strike out at those embracing the newer thought. It doesn't make one religion any less legitimate than the other. It's just a clash of culture with religion being used as a rallying cry.

All things considered all we are going to end up arguing about is what the definition of a religion is, and to me it's just the accepted term by which people refer to a organized school of spiritual thought.

Buddhist have been using their religion to justify violence as well. They just haven't been exposed to people attacking them for their religion much in the past so it never really took on like it did in Europe / MENA.

Of course the nature of buddhism is a bit easier to manipulate on peaceful grounds than it is on violent ones.

sorry I don't really understand your reply. You're saying the muslims are worse because the content of the Qu'ran is worse than the content of the Bible? aren't they very similar when it comes to fucked up shit? because the bible is VERY fucked up

>still no reply
yes, where your god pjw tells you how bad and evil the modern world is

>Your God
>Pjw

>another non reply
keep proving me right

take off your proxy

Okay then. Should we not just strive for an ideal situation in which both can exist?

Religion is used to reinforce the culture in many cases. So wouldn't it be ideal if we could trigger some sort of Islamic reformation? One to counteract Wahhabism? Various regions have been attempting to do that. From the Caucasus to African states.

We cant look into al baghdadis head so I judge him by his actions which seem to be pretty consistent until now.

>Also religion can, and has changed with the culture of the times.
Sure, but culture is not seperate from religion.
The two intervene with religion changing much slower and always having a possibility to revert as what is written does not change.

>Usually the resulting conflict comes when adherents to the conservative thought strike out at those embracing the newer thought.

Debatable, if you think of iconoclasts and other examples, agression comes from both ends if the teachings conflict and no room is given for conflicting teachings to exist. (a room that also was probably made possible by some old conflict.)

>clash of culture
As I said, its only very recently that both are divided and there are some cultures where it isnt perceived as such. That Religion =/= culture is a western idea and there are people willing to kill to defend their stance against it.

>what am i?

Neo-liberalism for upper class economy
Neo-Socialism for mid-to-low class economy
Conservatism in term of social life, ideology, culture, and norms
Full liberalism in term of science and technology development

Minarchist desu.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism

Not necessarily worse. Different.
You said that a protestant fundamentalist believing into the literal bible is like a muslim doing the same, which is absurd as both believe in different truths and ways of life.
The strenght and similar appearance of their beliefs is irrelevant whataboutism when you talk about the pelicular content of one of the two books.

I agree, you cant just trigger something like that unfortunately as an outsider, so filtering the believers into those with a compatible outlook on what is written to be allowed to coexist with you might be the easiest way and is how they do it in central asia and singapore were you get vanned if you believe too strongly.

I think clerical fascism is a good way to describe my views. Taking the respect of traditions and religion as a way to unite and bring morals to the people from traditionalism, and the collectivism, militarism, and nationalism from fascism.

An entire nation united under God, King and Leader, working together towards a renewed greatness. That's my dream.

definitely agree with this post and I'd be fine with having similar laws to those in central asia and singapore.

>fascism
>not revolutionary

>Expecting an American to know what fascism is

That's pretty autistic

desu nobody knows what fascism is, not even the fascists.

national socialism

Hey, my family lived under fascism. It was shit.

>It was shit.

but didn't the trains run on time?

I'm a moderate
I am okay with my neighbors
I think the west has the best culture, for all of its shortcomings
I only have strong opinions on things I am certain of
I try to judge people on how they are irl
I really don't enjoy talking to people who are extreme on either end (unless they are qts) because I find them to be either really defensive or condescending (sorry if you are not like this)
I honestly understand now why so many normies just choose not to get involved in political debates. It usually leads to nothing but anger and huge chunks of time wasted

that's pretty much it

That one isn't actually true. It was just 1920 propaganda. The trains were actually slow as shit.

>reasonable post
rarer than a China flag

Fascists tried to restore the glory of old Roma.

You should have let them do it desu