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fever ray should be where kate bush currently is, kate bush should be where bjork currently is, and bjork should be the greatest.

Grimes is too high on the list.

Grouper

Wrong. This is the correct chart, like it or not. FYI both Kate Bush and Bjork as as pleb as it gets. BTW, pleb is not the same thing with bad.

You have a Grimes thread now fuck off.

grimes fans want us to think liking her makes them ascended level smart but they're incapable of even properly structuring a sentence
Really makes you think

joanna newsom

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Everyone who puts Grimes at the entry level is a butthurt Grimeshater. Fact. Only a fool would deny the fact that Grimes is the ultimate evolution of art pop, a huge improvement of what Kate Bush and Bjork built before her. She's the queen of this fucking board, a one woman band.

>attacking the style, not the substance
Really makes you think. FYI English is not even my first language.

Explains why you enjoy enjoy Grimes garbled mess.

>Everyone who puts Grimes at the entry level is a butthurt Grimeshater. Fact. Only a fool would deny the fact that Grimes is the ultimate evolution of art pop, a huge improvement of what Kate Bush and Bjork built before her. She's the queen of this fucking board, a one woman band.

don't have enough fedoras for this post

grimes isn't female

It's an enchanting mess, mr pleb. That's why she's on the ultimate level. She could make a mess sounds divine.

got a template senpai?

Are you blind? She's clearly a female.

The individuality you so desperately want to flaunt is nothing more than an industrial byproduct of a cynical marketing machine strip mining our celebrity obsessed culture. These days, even teenage rebellion is just a pre-packaged lesson in consumerism.

Listen, I know it’s your job to act like a shallow, self-absorbed little brat right now. Still, I’m not your mother. I don’t have to put up with your whining for one fucking second. If you want to be recognized as a person in this world, earn it.

Adulthood is right around the corner.

Figure it out, kid.
“I vibe in a gender neutral space so I'm kinda impartial to pronouns for myself. Don't have a preferred so much but I wish I didn't have to be categorized as female constantly. Everything I ever hear about Grimes is super gendered and it's always really made me uncomfortable."
-grimes

more accurate than the other one

It's a stupid chart. Who in his right mind would put Grimes on the entry level when Kate Bush and Bjork are clearly more accessible and Grimes is way more controversial (also harder to get into her music)? Kate Bush and Bjork sold millions of albums, ffs! And Fever Ray is also the lead singer of the popular duo The Knife.

Made something more accurate

I love it when Sup Forums threads devolve into a bunch of fucking neckbeard waifufags bickering about memes. Drink bleach, Grimes doesn't like you and neither does your mom.

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But what if you're my friend?

(You)
This is actually objectively correct

This.
Liz Harris is the logical conclusion to womyn.

If you love that, stop whining, dipshit.
>objectively correct
LMAO

Really? Then why she makes such boring, dull and uneventful music? Why she's not able to make one decent hook instead of formless music that goes nowhere?

she doesn't make pop garbage :)
its what jcole fans call a "High IQ" music

replace fever ray with sugar ray and sure

Nice argument

>what is ambient
>if her songs don't have hooks then it's shit
kys, grouper is above all of your pop (((musicians)))

I agree with that guy, ambient is really really boring to me

I'd almost rather listen to vaporwave

honestly, kate is just so much better than all of these. what the fuck is wrong with all of yall?

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That's because you are a plebeian that only listens to safe commercial pop.

truth

>These days
As opposed to when? In your youth?
What are you, twelve?

>J. Cole

Shittin on niggas like a nigga was still a baby.
- The Come Up

Motherfucker, I'm the shit, I pass gas when I feel.
- Sky Boy

Aye this is big shit poppin', you gon' need a plunger.
- Heartache

They say I'm like the human body, I produce my own shit.
- Royal Flush

They light a fire under my ass nigga my shit hot, even if you squatted under volcanoes nigga your shit not.
- Waterbreak

These niggas thinking they the shit and they ain't even farted yet.
- Last Call

I be shitting on my niggas and my dough be farting.
-The One

Nigga, eat a dick, we the shit, no flushing.
- Disgusting

You wanna know how I know I'm the shit? 'Cause I keep clogging up the toilet.
-Disgusting

I'm on that shit as if I was the flies.
-Premeditated Murder

I potty train niggas, yeah, this that teach you 'how to shit'.
- Bun B For President

I'm the shit, you the stools.
- Wireless Festival 2010 Freestyle

You the shit only cause I digested you niggas.
- See It To Believe It

I let you feel like you the shit, but boy you can't out-fart me.
- Dollar & A Dream III

Swallowed the key to my cell, which means,
I got an impossible lock to pick,
And if you want my spot you gotta go through lots of shit.
- The Cure

Now they tell me “man you like the realest shit I ever smelt."
- The Cure

Fuck is that smell? I smell bullshit, it must be an election year.
- Get Free

I'm the shit you the shit stains.
- Backstage verse at Kendrick Lamar show

Grew up in this bitch without a pot to piss, no toilet, how ironic, I took a lot of shit
- Tears For ODB

She put up with this shit like she work at the zoo, true
- Sparks Will Fly

If your shit don't stink, nigga, my ship won't sink
- Revenge Of The Dreamers


so this is the power... of conscious hip hop... damn....

Do you call that boring crap ambient? Listen to some real ambient (Eno, Global Communication, Stars of the Lid, Biosphere, Steve Reich, GAS,...) not that dull crap.

>its what jcole fans call a "High IQ" music
Lmao! If you'd have a high IQ you'd listen to good music, not boring crap. Try some Mozart and Grimes for instance.

what kind of punk ass question is that?

>real ambient
what a low IQ response

Kate was very good for the 1980s level. But music evolved since then. Bjork and Grimes are simply better and more complex.

@71099235
>listen to some real ambient
>Stars of the Lid
>Biosphere
>GAS
>babbys first ambient
top zez user get some taste before posting on Sup Forums

this

lol, grimes is the most pleb of them all. basic hipsters girls and faggots who don't even know who kate bush is love her, wtf you talking about

not even art-pop

>Who in his right mind would put Grimes on the entry level when Kate Bush and Bjork are clearly more accessible and Grimes is way more controversial (also harder to get into her music)? Kate Bush and Bjork sold millions of albums, ffs!
Yeah, and Laurie Anderson's O Superman reached number 2 in the UK Singles Chart, reached the Top 40 of three other countries and topped the Pazz & Jop poll. Still, would you call that accessible? An artist doesn't have to be a commercial hit to be accesible. And Grimes is definitely very accesible. Also, controversial? What is controversial about Grimes? Maybe in Sup Forums, yeah she is controversial here because of a hideous fanbase, but not really outside the board.

Not an argument

boring was never an argument
but low IQ people like yourself don't realize that.

>assuming i listen to commercial pop
Wew

That's great ambient, cretin. And fucking learn how to reply properly.

>listen to some real ambient
>eno, stars of the lid, gas, the list goes on :^)

71099352
hey man its cool you can check out wikipedia!

>lol, grimes is the most pleb of them all.
That's why you're mad right now because you can't handle her music. You're actually a stupid pleb. Sour grapes?

>not even art-pop
(You)

@71099352
>That's great ambient
maybe if this is your first month listening to music

@71099398
you can't even define art pop idiot!

>idiot wondering how stupid he could be

>maybe if this is your first month listening to music
LOL! In your first month listening to music you were a huge Brokencyde fan. 3 years later (now), you evolved into a huge Nickelback fan. Prove me wrong.

You stupid fuck, those artists I mentioned are great regardless of their popularity. Stop being a faggot.

We don't need to argue guys, cmon.

Look, I'm not biased to EITHER side, I don't love grimes like she's god, and I don't loathe her with a passion.

Here is a completely UNBIASED ranking for each of her albums.

The kind that you apparently aren't punk enough to answer.

>That's why you're mad right now because you can't handle her music. You're actually a stupid pleb. Sour grapes?
Wrong. I like Grimes, specially Visions which I loved when it came out. Art Angels was nice as well. I'm just not delusional like you guys who think she is the second coming of Jesus or something

And yeah, she's not art-pop

>Yeah, and Laurie Anderson's O Superman reached number 2 in the UK Singles Chart, reached the Top 40 of three other countries and topped the Pazz & Jop poll. Still, would you call that accessible?
Of course. I liked it on the first listen and apparently I wasn't the only one. That song is certainly more accessible than this one youtube.com/watch?v=04etL7ILb38

>An artist doesn't have to be a commercial hit to be accesible. And Grimes is definitely very accesible.
Very accessible? Dude, there are people that started liking her music YEARS after they first heard her music. Some of them posted their stories in the general thread.

>Also, controversial? What is controversial about Grimes?
Her music, image, personality, speeches, etc.

>Maybe in Sup Forums, yeah she is controversial here because of a hideous fanbase, but not really outside the board.
Not only on mu, but on other places too: ilxor, P4K, Stereogum, etc. She started many controversies in the past. I'm not gonna spoonfeed you.

Maybe if you used this for the grimes one it would be more accurate

Visions and GP, just a 6?!

Yes. I think that's a more than fair rating.

Maybe I'd bump Geidi to a 7 but I probably wouldn't go higher than that.

>backpedalling
And yet, nothing about her most difficult albums, Geidi Primes and Halfaxa. Just like I said, you're a pleb.

>And yeah, she's not art-pop
She is.

define art pop

These are your ratings, but a 6 for Visions is painfully low. Whatever, dude.

the only reason anyone would find grimes' music incredible is a lack of exposure to the mountains of more interesting synth pop out there. she's pretty average, she just sells her music with her body and it works.

imagine if there weren't any pictures of the artist. would you care about the music as much?

Mine is better

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Amazing list

Fever Ray >>>>>>>

youtu.be/vfX0aG61YN4

>imagine if there weren't any pictures of the artist. would you care about the music as much?
Unironically yes. First discovered her years ago strictly in terms of her look/music videos and had absolutely no interest. Then I rediscovered her via just her music early last year, and now she's one of my top five favorite musicians of all time.

out of pure curiosity, who are the other 4?

>the only reason anyone would find grimes' music incredible is a lack of exposure to the mountains of more interesting synth pop out there.
Bullshit. I'm a synthpop connoisseur (I know pretty much any relevant artist from this genre and lots of other obscure artists) and from this position I'm telling you that Grimes is on the top level, among the greats.

>she's pretty average, she just sells her music with her body and it works.
Absolutely bullshit. There's a reason why she had so many ugly haircuts in the past because she wanted to be judged based on her music. Without her music nobody would give a damn about her. There are millions of attractive girls in the world but extremely few are able to do singing, songwriting, producing, sound engineering, drawing artwork, directing and editing music videos, dancing and modeling on top of that.

>imagine if there weren't any pictures of the artist. would you care about the music as much?
Of course. I had no idea about who was Grimes when I first heard her music.

name 15 good synthpop artists and your favorite album by them right now

The only accurate chart ITT.

In reverse chronological order:
>Grimes
>Scott Walker
>Charles Ives
>Schubert
>Mozart

Whoops - meant this for

>from this position I'm telling you that Grimes is on the top level, among the greats.
name five artists that share her level or are close. express to me a sliver of your profound knowledge.

>Absolutely bullshit. There's a reason why she had so many ugly haircuts in the past because she wanted to be judged based on her music.
if she wanted to be judged based on her music alone, she wouldn't be posting full body pose shots of herself in tight clothing with "bad haircuts". what a joke. have you seen her music videos? that's how she got big. softcore porn.

>if i mix Grimes with babbys first classic and avant garde i will seem cultured and eclectic
state of you

pleb bait across the board I see, hahahahaha

How was that backpedalling?

>And yet, nothing about her most difficult albums, Geidi Primes and Halfaxa. Just like I said, you're a pleb.
Yeah, those albums are not that good user. Not because they were "difficult" or "challening", which they're not. They are decent attempts at emulating Cocteau Twins, but failing to match their level of vocals, production or composition

>She is
How so?

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I'm gonna name the artists only, I have no time typying so many albums:
Depeche Mode
Kraftwerk
Pet Shop Boys
Grimes
Propaganda
Tears For Fears
OMD
Heaven 17
The Human League
The Knife
Goldfrapp
New Order
Ladytron
Gary Numan
Yellow Magic Orchestra

Great list desu

>names 15 babys first synthpop artists
ahahahahah
>synthpop connoisseur
ahahah

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>Yeah, those albums are not that good user. Not because they were "difficult" or "challening", which they're not. They are decent attempts at emulating Cocteau Twins, but failing to match their level of vocals, production or composition
You just proved my point. You couldn't get into them and dismissed them as "not that good". Why? Because you're a pleb and these albums are too patrician for you.

>those post times
>has to start samefagging because his taste got shit on

>grimes music videos
>softcore porn.
Lol what universe do you live in?

>synthpop connoisseur
>ahahah
Yes, you idiot. These are actually the best synthpop artists and my personal favorites. FYI most obscure artists are obscure for a reason: they're not that good. I could name 100 more obscure synthpop artists (just to name a few: Mesh, De/Vision, Rotersand, Parallels, Zynic, La Roux, Thomas Dolby, Rodney Cromwell, Client, Dubstar, The Other Two, Thermostatic,...) but why should I do that if I don't believe they're that good?

>names 15 babys first synthpop artists
You're too imbecile to understand that there aren't that many great synthpop artists, most of them are mediocre or just good enough.

>i will seem cultured and eclectic
Maybe not you, but I certainly will.

Thanks for the backwards compliment!

lol so a bunch of entry level 90% yuro, almost no contemporary? I mean entry level doesn't mean bad, in fact there are a few very very good artists in there, but there is some utter crap in that list and the fact that I know all of it well is a sign that reflects you have some immaturity to the genre. that's fine, we've all been there. it explains why you think grimes is so great. I'd say she's easily goldfrapp/ladytron/propaganda-tier, but those all share the trait of being a little bit boring.

One of the most idiotic things on Sup Forums is this "babys first" bullcrap. You were memed that more obscure = better. Fuck you.

>You're too imbecile to understand that there aren't that many great synthpop artists
not him but if you think the fifteen artists you listed are the best synth pop artists and there aren't many others out there, you have a world of discoveries before you bro. if anything I envy your ignorance.

kek

>so buttblasted he can't even reply
the problem is not that you named well known artists.
The problem is that you claimed to be a "synthpop connoisseur" and preceded to name the 15 most well known arists in the genre in order to show off your knowledge of the genre

>>has to start samefagging because his taste got shit on
user, why would I care about anonymous morons on the internet who can't even figure out basic spelling and capitalization rules shitting on my taste?

most contemporary artists who will be very popular in five-ten years are obscure as they are new. on top of that, plenty of fantastic shit flies under the radar. the only reason you wouldn't know this is if you haven't looked.

i don't know. why did you care so much that you had to start samefagging?