So what was the moral?

So what was the moral?

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kill niggers
dont get caught

prison butt fuck cures racisim

Close. Prison rape turns you into a bitch, and bitches aren't racist.

your personal redemption and the senseless violence in the world aren't cosmically connected. just because you learned to be a good guy now doesn't work some kind of magic that protects you and your loved ones.

life is chaos. there is no narrative leading your life.

The moral was suppose to be that its a neverending circle since after his brother gets killed Derek was suppose to be shown standing infront a bathroom mirror shaving his head once again as the screen goes black and the credits roll.

However Edward Norton protested against it saying it was "too pro nazi" so they never did it.

Black people are violent thugs and Edward Norton was right in the first place

Close He was a bitch before the Aryan brotherhood raped him, bitches are disloyal.

Hate breeds hate.

This would have made the entire movie. Norton is a clown

Being a bitch is in his blood.

>Edward Norton protested against it
flaming faggot

>However Edward Norton protested against it saying it was "too pro nazi" so they never did it.

I think he was right though. People would not have understood it was portraying an unfortunate ending to things, with him being pulled back into the cycle. They would have taken it at face value assuming the protagonist is 'right', and interpreted it as meaning the movie was saying he was taking a 'correct' action.

He knew the majority of the audience would be too stupid to get it.

Probably but still
>most people are retards
>lets cater to them
it's not capeshit or a summer blockbuster, whoever wrote/directed it should have had the balls to see thru their vision rather than be talked down by faggot Furlong.

People would have got it m8

NIGS GUNNA NIG

But he was right

... but they'd be right to think that. Unless you're advocating that the "right thing to do" is to let others kill your family while praising the love of your murders

But that would've been the right reaction.
Black people are violent and in some communities skinheads are a reasonable reaction to that.

...

How very Christian.

Tony Kaye is a hack

>realizing Blacks commit high levels of violent hate crimes against whites is edgy
>fighting back is edgy
You have to go back.

And whites haven't been committing high levels of violent hate crimes against blacks for centuries? Or do you not like being blamed for the actions of other members of your race?

Try to refute the argument he makes in the dinner scene. He makes perfect sense and the girl and that old guy just resorts to personal attacks and appeal to emotion.

It's not about blaming anyone, it's understanding that we shouldn't choose to have millions of non-whites in our countries when they as a group just bring problems, no matter how many great individuals the group has.

This doesn't happen nowadays nigger.
And that doesn't change anything. We should just let them attack us because of what our Grandparents did? Indians and Asians aren't gangjumping whites everywhere they are becoming lawyers and doctors. Why do blacks behave this way in Germany, Austria, Canada etc.?
You're using the same argument that leftists use with Islam, "sure Islam is barbaric but the crusades happened 900 years ago so we are just as bad".

You mean the strawman argument? "muh social inequalities" isn't about absolving responsibility, it's about fixing the problem. On one hand you have the social concept of race, which has not been scientifically proven in any sense and the very existence of which is disputed by a majority of anthropologists, geneticists, and other scientists in relevant fields; on the other hand you have socioeconomic and cultural factors that have been clearly linked to increases in crime in a multitude of different climates throughout history. You're choosing to blame the actions of an arbitrarily defined group of people on a concept that, according to the majority of the scientific community, does not even exist at all.

>muh remembrance duty
>you have to pay for your ancestors that are related to you only by the colour of your skin.
you jew?

>you have to pay for your ancestors that are related to you only by the colour of your skin
I mean that's literally what you're saying to black people. Not so fair when you're on the other end I suppose

Are you actually suggesting that mass deporting tens of millions of american citizens is a more reasonable task than fixing the problem of inner city crime? Christ you stormniggers are retarded

Who could have guessed this would turn into another annoying political debate thread on Sup Forums

Take it to Sup Forums please.

>So what was the moral?
To go ahead and let dindus rob you and murder your family because being racist is totes worse.

This is actually false. In the US poor white areas like the appalachias are less violent than black areas with higher income.
Apes gonna ape no matter how much liberals coddle them.

>This doesn't happen nowadays nigger.
Really? Guess a pack of angry niggers should be kicking down your door and beating the shit out of your and your family as revenge for the Charleston church shooting. Unless for some reason you shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of other members of your race?

that Sup Forums is an echo chamber and violence breeds violence

Back to the shadows, Jewrog!

Holy shit you're a fucking idiot.

No one here is judging niggers on their past or even their colour but on what they do, which is severely boosting the crime rates of were they reside (and you murrikans should consider yourselves lucky, arabs are much worse).

Not that you'd actually know anything about it living in your nice city of white libertards.

Daily reminder that the real ending where he goes back to being a skin was edited out

>This is actually false
>socioeconomic and cultural factors
>and cultural
Guess you come from one of those poor white communities since you seem to be illiterate

>Sup Forums is an echo chamber
Have you actually ever gone there? You can't say anything without fifteen people telling you that you're wrong.

Don't blow smoke on a nigger's face, unless you wanna get shot

To be fair, that was the only conclusion of the question that was asked.

It is more reasonable because those people are the problem of inner city crime.

Who is "they"? Does every nigger in the country meet up and decide on the next white girl to rape? Sounds like you're the fucking idiot since you think that blacks are responsible for the actions of people who just happen to look like them

you can't fix blacks. They are animalistic by nature.

The moral of the story from Danny's perspective was you shouldn't stand up to a bully because they might murder you.

Yea it has nothing to do with growing up without a strong male influence, or a culture that glorifies crime and incarceration, or poverty, or a culture that glorifies drug use, or a poor education, or a lack of educational opportunities, or a culture that glorifies ignorance. or rampant discrimination in the judicial system, or poor nutrition, or the prevalence of gangs. it's cause they look like monkies lel

>represent 12% of USA population
>represent more than half the crime

>respond to a post
>don't address any of their points

Why is this board so full of niggers?

>but what about this one thing?
Great argument

>they have to murder because it's their culture
Why can't apes create a civil society and a culture without violence like poor whites? Feel free to continue using ad hominem because you have lost.

Let me guess, whitey is to blame for nigger culture

Right?

That's what I mean.

And yeah, I went there the other day and the delusion and stupidity is unbelievable.

Of course he hasn't.

Liberals are too close-minded to even consider that the opposition has a point.

but you just...

>concept of race
>not scientifically proven
because evidence right in your face isn't enough that you need scientific input on the question.
I suppose a bulldog and a yorkshire are the same race too!

don't be a white guy

>nigger culture leads to nigger violence
>you can't blame niggers for that

>Blatant ad hominem against realistic statistics
>thinks is literate.

>responsibility
There's that strawman again. You're talking about a group of people that only got basic civil rights barely 50 years ago. Yea, that has something to do with it.

>you can't blame niggers for that
You can blame them all you want, but that doesn't do anything to fix the problem. Children who grow up indoctrinated by that culture will perpetuate it. Education is a good place to start

So why do black fathers leave? Why does black culture glorify gang violence? Your entire post just admitted that blacks as a group are uncivilized and love violence and self destruction so I believe we are in agreement.
Or is it somehow not their responsibility?

Didn't you even actually read my post? I SO saw you coming that I even addressed this point of generalisation. Seriously fucking kill yourself shitty libtard.

There's been plenty of research on the subject senpai. The scientific concept of race doesn't have anything to do with it's colloquial use anyways. "African-Americans" are not a race even among anthropologists that believe race exists.

The nigger killed his brother for no real reason, what would your reaction toward that be? Ayy nigger, just kill me as well, I dont give a shit about my bro

I would go full on skinhead batman as well

>There's that strawman again. You're talking about a group of people that only got basic civil rights barely 50 years ago

Most of east Europe got basic civil rights 30 years ago

And what about the thousands of years prior to slavery that resulted in nothing but animalistic behaviour?

Your point?

It's so easy to reverse the characters in this picture it's not even funny.
Actually in France they started doing this exact kind of stupid inverted argumentation as widespread propaganda (it's posted as ads in the subway).

Hatred is not the answer.
Vengeance is.

from someone who lives here, east europe is a fucking shithole m8. i really wouldn't use that as your example

because they're hateful and mistrustful since they live in a country that has tried to fuck them at every twist and turn. i mean niggers used to get strung up by trees for looking at a white girl not that long ago. if you wanna talk about blame, how the fuck can you blame a niglet who grows up without a father in the fucking ghetto, gets bullied at school for doing well on tests, all his friends join gangs and do drugs etc...?

>Education is a good place to start
But blacks have full access to education in America

>So why do black fathers leave? Why does black culture glorify gang violence?
well, that's a good question...i'm not gonna think about it critically and do any research into tangible factors that might lead to such things, its probably just cause they're niggers haha

Research that was proven to be biased either by ideological constructs (poor's man politics) or by private fundings( propaganda for economic interests (jewish of course, see Soros)).

You got one thing right though, African-American isn't a race, because it's the name of fucking continents you massive retard.

>That's what I mean.
So by your definition an echo chamber is a place where your ideas are immediately challenged by over a dozen people and not a place where your ideas are never challenged ever and are just echoed back to you?

You're retarded, Sup Forums may be stupid and delusional (although really who isn't these days in politics, jesus christ the shit people come out with) but it's not an echo chamber, those are two very distinct things.

M8 the Chinese and the Micks were mistreated as well and you don't see them fail at life as much as niggers do

>because they're hateful and mistrustful since they live in a country that has tried to fuck them at every twist and turn
Then why didn't asians become violent, since they were just as poor as blacks when they arrived?

kek are you fucking kidding me? ever been to a city school? calling them schools at all is almost a joke. american public education is fucking disgraceful

Never direct a movie starring Ed Norton

>is a fucking shithole m8.

Compared to nigger society it's a utopia and you know it

And the rest of your argument falls on it's face when you consider countries where niggers have the majority and there is no whitey to oppress them, which are a million times worse then the USA

you and i both know that is a fucking ridiculous comparison. niggers were literally getting hanged from trees for sitting at the wrong table fifty years ago

>little niggers beating up whiteys
>being civilized is ostracised on schoolgrounds
>ethincal communautarism
>liberal lessons glorifying self-hate for the white
gee I wonder why public education sucks!

>Iseeyou'vemadeaspellingmistake.jpg

in america maybe, that said america also eradicated the natives and you don't see 'em exploding the crime rates.
Also, niggers are a worldwide problem.

Anyone who calls Sup Forums an echo chamber has obvious never been on that board regardless, it's non stop arguments and baiting.

The worst thing about Sup Forums is the rampant religious crap, it would be fine if it was proper discussion but it's just "you can't prove he doesn't exist!" And "what religion should I believe in?"

Bros, It all went wrong when Lincoln decided niggers should have rights.
John Wilkes Booth did nothing wrong and he tried to warn us and Hitler was the second man of that.
>this is our future when it isn't allowed anymore to hang or spit on niggers
>mfw

uh, no it really isn't. i grew up in azerbaijan and trust me, it is a fucking shithole. the whole country is disgusting and full of whores and criminals. tartars and ruski rejects are no better than niggers

>countries where niggers have the majority and there is no whitey to oppress them
which nigger majority countries have no history with white oppressors?

>that said america also eradicated the natives and you don't see 'em exploding the crime rates
what? native americans have insanely high crime statistics in the US

idk what you're trying to say. american public education sucks because of a lack of funding, overcrowding, bloated administrative salaries and stupid bullshit like the voucher system.

For me the moral was this;

Being on one side of the issue or the other doesn't actually matter in the end if what you care about is making your own life better.

>The only way to win is not to play

>stupid bullshit like the voucher system.
What's stupid about giving parents more control over their children's education?

>He knew the majority of the audience would be too stupid to get it.

not a reason to not release the proper cut for the patricians

>what? native americans have insanely high crime statistics in the US
You mean unpaid taxes from their casinos?

Then there is this guy.
Don't get it too wrong man, I love you much more than libtards.

it's consumerist bullshit. it takes money away from public schools that are already impoverished to begin with, and it drives up property values around good school districts which forces the middle class into mortgage debt., etc... a good public education should be your right as a citizen, making it more selective and elite only fucks your country even harder. you're not giving rich parents more choice, you're giving poor people less choice

I reckon the moral was that we form this belief systems (gang culture in the case of the movie) not so much because it gives us control over our lives but because they make us feel like we have control over our lives. Being a neo-nazi didn't save Norton's character from jail, nor did not being a neo-nazi save his brothers life. Similarly his brothers killer isn't going to be saved by his allegiance to a gang, they're still ultimately powerless people trapped in a system they have fundamentally no control over but the belief systems they build up in their head help them to avoid dealing with this fact. It fundamentally didn't matter if Norton had his change of heart or not because the fucked up environment that produced him and people like him still existed and would continue producing the exact same problems, his personal revelation mattered only to him.

tl; dr: life isn't like a movie.

>This is actually false. In the US poor white areas like the appalachias are less violent than black areas with higher income.
Population density, friend. Crime rates decrease where pop density is low. People can do their foul things like cook meth, and there are no neighbors to call the cops on them.

What's actually happened is the term has become politically charged.

'Race' is a term in taxonomy (the categorization of organisms) referring to a division below that of species. It implies that the individuals are reproductively successful across the racial barrier (no significant chromosomal difference exists) but that substantial behavioral or morphological disparity is present.

Races can be divided by physiology, geography or minor chromosomal reasons. There is more than enough reasons to divide Africans from Europeans, and a staggering amount of genetic difference between Australasians (particularly papua new guinea tribesmen) and the rest of Humanity.

Race is a genuine scientific principle and sociologists can go fuck themselves.

Source - I worked as an insect taxonomist.

>life isn't like a movie
Then this was a documentary.

>i-it's population density why blacks commit the most amount of crime!

>John Wilkes Booth did nothing wrong

Wrong, famm.

youtube.com/watch?v=Yp4PUJKLT6k

That would have made the movie a lot better man

The moral is that you wouldn't like him when he's angry.

Population density is also a common argument for why Europeans brought the world into the industrial era.

I guess it's a master argument, one which can be applied to any context.

>i-it's because they have more melanin, that's why blacks commit the most amount of crime!
your position doesn't sound much better senpai.

That neo nazis might rape you in the ass but niggers will ice you.