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Truly the best

>GOAT
>both caught and proven cheats

David Ortiz is in now way the GOAT of anything. He's a decent power hitter who can't run or field.

both filthy cheaters, don't know who is worse tbqh

he's the best DH of all time and it's not even close

he has the best world series stats for 2 or more WS

>best DH of all time
Boston sports fans, in a nutshell. You'll resume not caring once the baby bombers annihilate you for the next decade.

calling people cheaters is what fucking losers do when they lose lmao

Two known cheaters. Of course.

are you really this delusional about Boston? Papi blows Edgar out of the water

this it's beta af

one of them is from california and the other isn't even from this country. massachusetts is too lame to breed a homegrown goat.

Massachusetts puts out doctors and many NHL players, it's much more of an intellectual city

that's fair

no it's not, don't respond to my responses for me.

Oh sorry what was that

>tie shirt around waist
OR
>be goat

He made his choice.

>he's the best DH of all time

Edgar is better in wOBA, wRC+, OPS+ etc.
aka stats that actually matter
WAR is not even close

>but muh home runs
>muh rbis
kek

it's fucking DH anyway, literally fucking nothing

Only seven players in major league history have bested each of Edgar Martinez's career .312/.418/.515 slash line. It is a roll call of MLB legends: Ted Williams, Lou Gehrig. Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and Dan Brouthers. In fact, David Ortiz matched each leg of Edgar's career slash line just ONCE in a season (2007)

Only 13 players have a better career OBP than Martinez, one is Barry Bonds, and the rest are hall of famers

During a 3 yer stretch from 1995-1997 Griffey compiled a stout .385 OBP, Martinez topped it in the same time span with .386... With 2 strikes against him.

Martinez had 2 seasons (95-96) with at least 25 HR 50 doubles and 110 walks, the same number of seasons that every other player in MLB history had combined.

Martinez reached base 2,369 times in his thirties for a .4360 OBP, Ty Cobb in his thirties reached base 2341 times for a .4357 OBP.

Out of 309 HR and 1,261 RBIs in his career, 264 HR and 1,057 RBIs came after the age of 30

There are 12 (Twelve) players in baseball history with at least 830 career extra base hits and an OBP of .415 or better. 10 of them are in the hall of fame. The other 2? Edgar Martinez and Barry Bonds.

Tony Gwynn's (First ballot HoF) career WAR: 68.8 Edgar Martinez career WAR: 68.3

from June 23, 1995 to June 20 1996 Edgar Martinez compiled 73 doubles in a 162 game span (and two triples!)

In terms of career WAR, 162 gams played by Edgar Martinez is worth 241 games played by David Ortiz.

He did all this while dealing with going blind.

#EdgarHoF

Trout
Kobe

Next...

Jesus fucking christ.

Roidtiz fans on suicide watch

>Out of 309 HR and 1,261 RBIs in his career, 264 HR and 1,057 RBIs came after the age of 30

Really makes you think...

How does it feel that literally no one will remember this scrubs name in 10 years? People only bring him up when talking about Ortiz, he's nothing.

>Kobe
>playing

>0(zero) World Series MVPs

Not really. only 5/18 years of his career were played under the age of 30.

Thats what happens to players from the past. They only get mentioned or brought up when a player from the present is being compared to them.

To be considered good in baseball you are compared to all those that came before you.

WS wins and appearances are a team accomplishment. Being called the best at your position is an individual one.

Boston fans unironically think Big Papi is better than Ted Williams because of MUH RINGZ

Maybe if Memetinez didn't bat a buck eighty in the playoffs he could've had a ring.

Williams wouldn't even crack .260 against modern pitchers

You do realize post season stats aren't recorded for a player's total numbers right..?

You do realize Memetinez was Brock Holt-tier when his teams needed him the most right...?

why are you so salty about Edgar (who was Papi way before Ortiz was) being a better hitter than Ortiz. It's not really an arguable fact. Numbers literally prove it. You're grasping at straws here. The DH award is literally called "The Edgar Martinez Award"

If he was Papi he'd have a memorable moment. No one will remember Memetinez because he was always outshined by more impactful players and could never cut it in crunch time. Everyone will remember Papi for his postseason heroics.

Thanks for proving my point by having literally zero argument.

I am in no way saying Ortiz is a bad player. But pure numbers tell us that Edgar is the best DH of all time. And it's not even close.

Too bad he'll never get into the hall like Ortiz.

youtube.com/watch?v=iHV2TIfaeYg

> But pure numbers tell us that Edgar is the best DH of all time.

Ortiz has a 1.372 OPS in the world series. Let's see Edgar Martinez's stats in the world series. OH WAIT it seems he could never get there. Let's look at his ALCS numbers .474 OPS. HAHAHA oh wow. BEST DH EVER