Atheists literally believe there was absolutely nothing, not even empty space, and then in a few billionths of a second all the mass and energy in the universe just suddenly appeared out of nowhere.
It's so ridiculous when you sit down and think it through.
lol the never ending story xDD
i got it mate xDDDD
God is a nigger.
An atheist who say god dont exist and they only trust in Nietzsche Marx and the science are pantheist. And often more Anthropomorphic with the universe than a religious one
religion is for idiots
this has to be the best worst bait on Sup Forums in general.
You're right. I actually prayed to God last week to show my friend the other week for him to see the truth and he found love and a payrise.
Explain that atheists.
yeah man dont believe anything
Makes you wonder why things aren't even worse than they already are.
You can be agaisnt the religions with good reasons
But that dont proove God doesn't exist
stop posting
Religion fags believe that some mystical man was able to create the universe out of anything. And has all the power there is yet decided to let shit tier cancerous people run the world. People that murder each other and destroy the planet.
religion does not prove that god exists either.
It's not. You're just dumb as fuck. Nuff said
For Marx "Atheist philosopher" the univers exit because he have decided to exist
Its more anthropomorphic than say someone/something create it
True i didnt say that
I hate religions but i know God exist
stop the bait you fucking faggot
> What Triggered the Big Bang?
In the beginning, there was a question mark. All else followed. The end.
We've all heard of the Big Bang theory (I'm talking about the cosmological model, not the TV show), but it's important to understand what that theory is and what it's not. Let me take this opportunity to be precisely, abundantly, emphatically, ridiculously, fantastically clear: The Big Bang theory is not a theory of the creation of the universe. Full stop. Done. Call it. Burn that sentence into your brain. Say it before you go to sleep, and first thing when you wake up.
The Big Bang theory is a model of the history of the universe, tracing the evolution of the cosmos to its very earliest moments. And that's it. Don't try to stuff anything else into that framework. Just stop. You can keep your meta safely away from my physics, thank you very much.
I'm emphasizing this because there is a lot of confusion from all sides, and it's best to keep it simple. The Big Bang theory is a scientific model, just like any other scientific model. We believe the theory is on the right track because it's — gasp — supported by extensive evidence.
You don't have to take my word for it. Since the idea was first cooked up, the Big Bang theory has survived decades of scientists fighting, scratching, backstabbing, criticizing, undermining, bickering, arguing and even name-calling, all in an attempt to crush their rivals and prove that their pet alternatives were superior. Why? Because whoever takes down a major scientific paradigm gets a free trip to Stockholm.
And at the end of it all, there's the evidence. You know, the actual universe that we're trying to understand. Any new observation is the scientific Thunderdome; two theories may enter, but only one can leave. And what was left after decades of evidence? Here's a hint: It's big.
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Ok lets all stop thinking and question ourself its so useless
You are so true
The evidence starts with Edwin Hubble's note that every galaxy is, on average, flying away from every other galaxy. The universe is expanding. That itself is a pretty big deal. For millennia, the default assumption (can you blame anyone?) was that, while things change here on Earth, up in the distant heavens, stuff just sort of…is. Yeah, stars may blow up or galaxies may collide, but on the whole, the universe from last week looks pretty much like the universe today. Check again in a month? Yup, the same universe. At least that's what people thought.
But it's not. The universe today is different from how it was yesterday, and it will be different tomorrow. And it's not just on local scales; the whole shindig changes character one day to the next.
And if you notice that, every day, the universe is getting bigger, you can make a tremendous leap of logic to come to the conclusion that, long ago, the universe was … smaller? Maybe? I guess? Like any good scientist, as soon as you cook up this kind of ridiculous, preposterous concept, you start thinking through what the consequences would be and how you might test it — I know, radical notions.
Here's the gist: The story of the past 14-ish billion years is a story of density. The universe is made of lots of kinds of stuff: hydrogen, helium, aardvarks, dark matter, gristle, photons, Ferris wheels, neutrinos, etc. All this stuff behaves differently at different densities, so when the universe was smaller, one kind of thing might dominate over another, and the physical behaviors of that thing would drive whatever was going on in the universe.
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aren't you bored with these?
seriously its not even funny(it never was)
For example, nowadays, the universe is mostly dark energy (whatever that is), and its behavior is ruling the universe — in this case, driving a period of accelerated expansion. But a few billion years ago, the universe was smaller, and all the matter was crammed more tightly together. And by virtue of its density, that matter was the ruler of the roost, overwhelming dark energy, which was just a background wimp rather than the powerhouse it is now.
(Side note: The dark energy takeover happened at about the same time our solar system was getting its stuff together, and at the time, the universe was about half its present size.)
The birth of the Dark Energy Age might not seem that dramatic, but the further back you go in time — and the smaller you make the universe — the stranger it gets. Push back more than 13 billion years, when the universe was just one-thousandth of its current extent, and the matter that would one day make up entire galaxies is crammed together so tightly that atoms can't even form. It's so dense that every time a nucleus ropes in an electron, a careless high-energy photon slams into it, ripping the electron away. This is a plasma, and at one time, the entire universe lived like this.
Fast-forward to the present day, and the leftover light from the era, when the universe cooled and expanded just enough to let the first atoms form, continues to wash over us right now. But the universe is older and colder, and those high-energy gamma rays are now listless microwaves, creating a background permeating the cosmos — a cosmic microwave background, or CMB, if you will.
The CMB is not only one of the major pieces of evidence for the Big Bang (it's a baby picture of the universe…what else could you ask for?), but it's also a window to even earlier times. We may not be able to perceive the universe before the formation of the CMB, but the physics there leaves an imprint in that radiation field. It's, well, kind of important.
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The further we push back in time, the stranger the universe gets — yes, even stranger than a plasma. Push back further, and stable nuclei can't form. Go even further back, and protons and neutrons can't stand the pressure and degenerate into their components: quarks and gluons. Push back even further and, well, it gets complicated.
The Big Bang theory can be summarized thusly: At one time, the entire universe — everything you know and love, everything on the Earth and in the heavens — was crushed into a trillion-Kelvin ball about the size of a peach. Or apple. Or small grapefruit. Really, the fruit doesn't matter here, OK?
That statement sounds absolutely ridiculous, and if you said it a few hundred years ago… Well, I hope you like barbecues, because you're about to be burned at the stake. But as crazy as this concept sounds, we can actually understand this epoch with our knowledge of high-energy physics. We can model the physics of the universe at this early stage and figure out the latter-day observational consequences. We can make predictions. We can do science.
At the "peach epoch," the universe was only a tiny fraction of a second old. In fact, it was even tinier than a tiny fraction — 10^-36 seconds old, or thereabouts. From there on out, we have a roughly decent picture of how the universe works. Some questions are still open, of course, but in general, we have at least a vague understanding.
The further along in age the universe gets, the more clear our picture becomes, but it's almost frightening to consider that our poor monkey brains are even contemplating such early epochs in the universe.
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At even earlier times, though, our understanding of the universe gets … fuzzy. The forces, energies, densities and temperatures become too high, and the knowledge of physics we've cobbled together over the centuries just isn't up to the task. In the extremely early universe gravity starts to get very important at small scales, and this is the realm of quantum gravity, the yet-to-be-solved grand riddle of modern physics. We just flat-out don't have an understanding of strong gravity at small scales.
We. Just. Don't.
Earlier than 10^-36 seconds, we simply don't understand the nature of the universe. The Big Bang theory is fantastic at describing everything after that, but before it, we're a bit lost. Get this: At small enough scales, we don't even know if the word "before" even makes sense! At incredibly tiny scales (and I'm talking tinier than the tiniest thing you could possible imagine), the quantum nature of reality rears its ugly head at full strength, rendering our neat, orderly, friendly spacetime into a broken jungle gym of loops and tangles and rusty spikes. Notions of intervals in time or space don't really apply at those scales. Who knows what's going on?
There are, of course, some ideas out there — models that attempt to describe what "ignited" or "seeded" the Big Bang, but at this stage, they're pure speculation. If these ideas can provide observational clues — for example, a special imprint on the CMB, then hooray — we can do science!
If not, they're just bedtime stories.
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Yeah, maybe the is an omnipresence in the cosmos, but it was created by the big bang. But it's not that intelligent and it's not a beared man sitting somewhere on the clouds. It's just a gravitational interference, that scientist cant prove today
Thx for the physics lesson
I have screen shot it, its interessant
But i dont understand what its the link with the topic can you explain me?
There was no time either. Space an time are linked.
You've never actually read Nietzsche.
> Atheists literally believe there was absolutely nothing, not even empty space, and then in a few billionths of a second all the mass and energy in the universe just suddenly appeared out of nowhere.
Pretty sure It's about the Big Bang Theory.
I agree i didnt see God like this
But why it should be created by the bigbang?
I mean if there is a omnipresence why it should be include in the Space/Time rules of our Univers ?
OP so butthurt
False i have read 2 of his books (the one about "God is dead")
Oh clever... Yeah ok i got it but the big bang theory dont proove god dont exist
> Oh clever... Yeah ok i got it but the big bang theory dont proove god dont exist
Could you provide me with some legitimate proof that God does exist?
>>Atheists literally believe there was
WRONG! Atheists simply do not believe in a deity. It's a simple definition. Any addition to that is superfluous bullshit.
I concur
>It's so ridiculous when you sit down and think it through.
care to elaborate on your thinking process? i dont know, if you have a legit point, why dont you publish a paper and become famous? seems like easy money to me.
Where did you learn all this? Did you learn that in college?
>Atheists literally believe there was absolutely nothing, not even empty space, and then in a few billionths of a second all the mass and energy in the universe just suddenly appeared out of nowhere.
>It's so ridiculous when you sit down and think it through.
Isn't that what religious people believe only god did it all and not the big bang?
Explain why after 25y of atheist/evolutionist thinking i have start to understand that God exist is a little bit too long
Its not a blog here
Then you would know that the phrase was uttered by a madman in the story meaning that then modernity pushed God out of their lives.
He wasn't taking an athiest stance. He was saying we as humanity pushed God away.
>God is dead. Good will remain dead. And we have killed him.
I can't understand you; please use proper English.
What part?
No, atheists believe there is no sentient god. That is all. Nice try master baiter
Yeah i know it. I dont have say that Nietzsche was Antropomorphic. I say the Atheist whotrust in Nieztshe are anthropomorphic
Sorry (its hard for me)
I dont want here proove that god exist because is not a blog. And if im sure about god its because that made 10y i have start to search proof
My nigga
who created god then think through the shit you say also b8
So, from what I understood, you don't want proof that God exists?
I'm not your nigga, nigga.
Maybe people should try agnosticism...
I don't know what the fuck you mean in that sentence by saying athiests are anthropomorphic.
I will tell you: basing personal beliefs or lack of beliefs solely on peer pressure or a book is retarded and generates hypocrites.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
I concur
Without proof, you have no argument.
I didn't say i want proof that god dont exist
I can accept them but that dont mean i agree with this proof.In fact i know many of them but their a not real proof. Use a a Empiricistic argument agaisnt God is like say "God exist because i have ask him to succes my exam and he have do it" Its not a real proof
Explain the theory of the big bang its cool and i love it. But i dont understand where is the proof about the no existence of a God
Pretty sure I explained the Big Bang Theory. Want me to explain why God most likely doesn't exist?
Also, I still don't get what you're trying to say in the first response.
Aaaah i cant translate my french text.
Ok i can try with just some questions
Why there is something instead of nothing?
The theory doesn't cover the creation of the universe and you can't prove a negative argument.
>prove i don't have a keyboard in my closet
ur just proving the statement
Why would you ask such a stupid question?
No i dont have ask a question. I only have quote you
For be more short i say that i dont know real proof of the no existence of god. Because they are like the stupid religious proofs
I can't understand you, sorry.
Meh... if you want understand what i do read Spinoza and what he think about god.
If you ask evrytime "Why" for evrything the only thing you got as a answer is "God" at the end
Did you mean materialistic?
As to why there's something rather than nothing, if there was nothing we wouldn't be here to ask the question.
The universe consistently shows that it is just a complex expansion. Your question is loaded because it implies intent. There's nothing to indicate the universe had intent. So, we are here because if we weren't we wouldn't be ( your question commands a tautological response).
What did you dont understand? My sentences?
Yes.
if god doesn't exist
how can this angel exist´?
pic related
Its the same
Hum interesent wich word proove there is an intent in this question?
You fucking retards, this guy makes THE SAME thread EVERY FUCKING DAY
and you people STILL respond to it
The word "why" implies intent.
A retard who ask question is more clever than a normal who stay in his own certitude
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I like the flavor of this bait, I've seen it tons of times.
And I get to have conversations with people who genuinely care about the subject, like the frenchy in here.
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Doesn't matter if Yahwe exists or not. If you bow your head you're a cowardly insect.
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Kek will destroy you profligate
Well i accept this
But there is something that mean there is a chain of event that lead us to today
What is the 1st event?
(If you dont undertand what i try to do, read spinoza and what he think about god)
Yeah thats what the demon and Satan thinking (if they exist)
Religious faggots think the exact same thing. Where did you god come from?
Protip: if he always existed, so could the universe. Stop with your shitty cancer threads.
This.
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He come from outside the space and time rules
That mean people like you who dont like asking themself question cant understand it
Stay in your certitude its better for be happy
Ecc 1:18
IT'S SO RIDICULOUS!
This same insecure pinhead again? Shit.
a trap?
>taking the bait
But it makes a lot more sense to believe that a ghost sitting on a cloud made it all up just by talking to himself.
The answer to the question of first cause is that we don't know. Some theories exist, some believe God or gods did it.
You're asking what happened before even time existed. Which is fine for philosophy and conjecture, but makes it extremely difficult to prove for anybody making a claim.
If you want to put God outside of reality there's nothing inherently wrong with that. The problem with God is when people say he exists in this universe or works in this reality. That demands evidence.
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MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
This I believe in... I believe in death. I believe in disease. I believe in injustice and inhumanity, torture and anger and hate... I believe in murder. I believe in pain. I believe in cruelty and infidelity. I believe in slime and stink and every crawling, putrid thing... every possible ugliness and corruption, YOU SON OF A BITCH. I believe in you.
Any more ridiculous than a magic man making everything and letting it get destroyed then allowing his people that he "loves" that he made himself to live a life by retarded rules? Ok pal