Is this the most powerful scene in modern cinema?

Is this the most powerful scene in modern cinema?
The soundtrack alone makes me cry. It just reeks sadness, grief and loss.
This was the peak of capeshit IMO

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i wouldn't say it's the most powerful scene in modern scene but Watchmen is definitely one of the top three capefilms ever made.

Scene is stolen from Predator.
Arnie did it better.
Zack is hack.

Synder has his moments of genius. He's like an idiot savant.

Most powerful scene capeshit, yeah. still a good film overall

quick question

how do marvel fans feel knowing they will never have a scene that comes close to this?

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This + TDK ending = capekino

No.

Consider suicide.

>cinema
it was a 1:1 copy of the comic

Watchmen is a steaming pile of shit, made by an absolute hack who doesn't give a fuck about the themes and characters of the source material, instead wanking over costumes and making still images of the film look exactly like the panels to court the reddit-tier OMG SOO AMAZINGGG SO FAITHFUL fuckwits.

>most powerful scene in modern cinema
>The soundtrack alone makes me cry
>It just reeks sadness, grief and loss

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Snyderfags wish.

Er...

Rorschach is Sup Forums personified.

>Existential discussion ends with superpowered being killing the inferior opponent
>Is cartoonish

What did Disney mean by this?

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I would just love to sit down with Rorschach and go over 100 years of statistical data

from crime, to poverty, infant mortality rate, social mobility, equality, ... etc

Fuck off Alan you deranged freak

Yeah him or Rust Cohle

>2 robots talking
lmao

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the boat scene from TDK, but then again it's not really capeshit

Fuck this was such a good movie. Synder is a bad screenwriter and also kind of a bad director in many ways, but he nailed it because the source material was solid. His sense of feeling and atmosphere and cinematography is sublime

that scene sucked. you knew what was going to happen the entire time. fuck that shitty movie.

I feel tainted by the amount of stupidity and bad taste around this board
I bet you read in your life less than 5 books

hello armchair intellectual, i wish i was just like you!

if you're a child, then the scene might resonate. if you're an adult, i'd suggest watching actual films.

It was actually better than your funny book

nah, but this was

The fact that there are people who want nothing more than a verbatim thematic and visual rehash of a comic book story is utterly beyond my comprehension. What would the point of that even be?

With a book, it's understandable, as the imagery is all in the imagination of the reader, and seeing that translated to a visual medium can be a task in its own right. Expecting a comic book story to be done to the same degree of faithfulness is a bit dumb and fanboyish, in my opinion. If the writers and directors aren't free to ignore themes that might not be all that accessible to the general public or even introduce new themes all their own, why not just read the graphic novel again?

Sin City worked well because its central themes are basically just film noir revisited. Watchmen, on the other hand, is a metatextual deconstruction of the inherent ineffectualness of costumed "superheroes" and the detrimental effect they have on the people who seek nothing more than escape through them.

I don't blame them for not attempting to tackle that on the big screen. Normies can't even handle the messages being put forward in MoS and BvS.

delete that picture its spooky

also your wrong as i've read all 7 harry potter books

Oh Christ, right in the fucking feels every time.

No it wasn't. The comic doesn't go to cartoonish levels by having Dan see Rorschach die and then proceed to beat up Ozymandis in a WWE tier fight.

>tfw we never got to see Dan beat the shit out of the gang

No, the comic has Dan go off and fuck Sally, reeking of Nostalgia while Rorschach dies.

Now go ahead and try to sell that one to the general audience.

>What would the point of that even be?
Adding to a good story with good actors, music, cinematography and special effects.

The Watchmen film didn't do any of this, except for the dude who plays Rorschach who is pretty good, albeit too much of a Batman voice instead of being a monotone weirdo.

>Expecting a comic book story to be done to the same degree of faithfulness is a bit dumb and fanboyish, in my opinion.
The book was said to be unfilmable for a reason. If you can't do it right, don't do it period.

> Normies can't even handle the messages being put forward in MoS and BvS.
People understand the themes of those movies fine. It's just that they're NOT GOOD MOVIES. And any serious is taken away anyway due to the schlock that Snyder likes to put into it.

No, this is

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This is bait.

Do not respond to bait.

Do not post bait.

>Now go ahead and try to sell that one to the general audience.
I care about what's good, not what's accessible.

If some normie doesn't understand why the squid is there, regardless of how much the book sets it up and how it parodies stuff like Starro or Mole Man, it's not the story's fault.

what film is this?

Yes this is good advice...HOWEVER, you simultaneously responded to bait while baiting my own reply.

>why d-don't you like what i like

The most standout juvenile scene in the flick

So fucking bad! You can just SEE Joss Whedon congratulating himself for writing it that day

a complete disgrace compared to the comic

Pretty good movie actually.

I thought this scene was better though:
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>tfw people seriously think that capeshit is deep

>People understand the themes of those movies fine.

Really? Then tell me why Superman's surrounded with religious imagery and why it's important to what's coming in terms of the continuing story.

Take all the time you need.

not enough quips for me

Why was he crying? I don't get it.

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You completely ignored what I was saying and why. Starro and Mole Man would have actually been far easier to explain than why Dan reeks of Nostalgia.

Also Watchmen.

>They built this church in the center of the city so everyone could be equally close to God. It's fascinating - the geometry of belief

I cringed in my seat and almost left the theater

Its like a film student practicing screenwriting by writing out nonsense philosophical quotes, but they actually made it into the movie

Begins and TDK are literally the only capekinos.

TDKR is memekino.

Not really. It's still using foreshadowing.

>Then tell me why Superman's surrounded with religious imagery and why it's important to what's coming in terms of the continuing story.
That he's going to die and come back to life.

That's really it. There's nothing intelligent about that as Superman has very little in common with Jesus Christ or the Icarus story or demons or whatever the hell else Lex is seen screaming about in the movie. It's Snyder being pretentious.

Adrian lets Dan beat him, and speaks to him as if he were a child having a temper tantrum

He does in the Director's Cut.

God tier trailer

Shit tier movie

>wheres fedora
>wheres trench coat
>hides face
>homeless slob

He's /r9k/ not Sup Forums my friend

>tfw they decided to put in the awkward sex scene instead

I have never seen this Synder kino, which version should I watch? Original, directors cut, or ultimate cut?

>Not really. It's still using foreshadowing.
Either you don't understand what foreshadowing is, or your grasp of Watchmen's themes isn't nearly so firm as you believe it to be. I'm not trying to be smug, just stating fact. Dan, reeking of a cologne called "Nostalgia," making love to Sally while Rorschach dies has nothing whatsoever to do with foreshadowing.

>That's really it. There's nothing intelligent about that as Superman has very little in common with Jesus Christ or the Icarus story or demons or whatever the hell else Lex is seen screaming about in the movie. It's Snyder being pretentious.

OK, here it is:

While the religious iconography present in MoS and BvS, works on multiple different levels, none of it has anything to do with Superman being a god(at least in-narrative) and even less to do with his miraculous return. For brevity's sake, here's how it plays into what's to come in the DCCU:

It's there to indicate that Superman(not Clark Kent, obviously) is being thought of by the people of earth as a god. It's not all Christ imagery. By turns, he's emblematic of a savior deity like the Christ, a solar/light deity like Apollo or Horus(ring any bells?), and a sky/storm deity like Zeus or Thor.

The reason that's important from a narrative perspective is that for the first time in modern society, there's a being walking openly among us that truly is a viable stand-in for a god. Belief is the life-blood of magic, be it of the "magick" or the fictional variety.

By simple virtue of his existence and his heroic sacrifice, Superman, that least "magickal" of characters, is ushering in an "Age of Heroes" and a resurgence of magic in a world that had lost both. If I'm anywhere near correct in my assertions, we'll see this being explored in Suicide Squad somewhat, and probably in even more depth in Wonder Woman.

>creator of suckerpunch
>making a good movie
lol

Go all in. It's amazing.

What is Spider-Man 1 and 2?

My only problem with the symbolism in BvS was that it was so heavy handed. That long montage of scenes of Superman doing godlike things and the newscasters and people talking over it felt like it went on forever and that's time that could have been spent on showing us something like Batman doing an actual investigation or seeing more of Lex's plans behind the scenes... you know plot.

Instead we got a long scene that made its point quickly but then continued to drag on for some reason.

Continuing.

That's part of what it's there for, and that's leaving out any discussion of the metanarrative implications.

Remember how color was used to such dramatic effect in "The Wizard of Oz," where Dorothy goes from black and white Kansas to the fantastical, technicolor realm of Oz? Expect to see a more subtle use of that same technique here. MoS and BvS are frequently criticized for being "colorless." As magic grows, expect the world to become more vibrant.

I sort of expect Wonder Woman's film to illustrate this, contrasting a grey "modern" world with a more vibrant past.

That's the ultimate trade-off of a comic book world - the brights are brighter, but the darks are also much darker. If you see hints of these themes in the upcoming films, please do try to remember that you heard it here first.

>implying "magick" isn't fictional
go back to /x/ you daft fuck

/r9k/ is beta as fuck thought
nah he is an edgelord with Sup Forums tendencies and /r9k/ relation with women

I'm not saying it isn't. I just could think of no more concise a manner by which to differentiate between "magick" in a movie and "movie magic."

not really, he beat up the guy in the pub after he heard the news, but we don't actually see his retribution on the actual killers

>That's the ultimate trade-off of a comic book world - the brights are brighter, but the darks are also much darker

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't actually read comics?

>implying

sorry m8 I just got triggered

Only for most of my life. Admittedly, I've slacked off gradually over the past decade or so. I've got a pretty broad lore base that spans from the late 60s up through the early 00s.

I'm also very familiar with comic book history.

The buildup for this was fucking shit

>Hey man
>Yo
>I know where the original Nite Owl lives
>k, lets kill him

Then you should know that "darks being much darker" in terms of color isn't commonplace, even Death of Superman had lots of bright colours for a supposedly tragic story.

>most juvenile scene

well, he was born only yesterday

This best be not b8. Watching it for the first time in 10mins.

Read the comic instead.

I apologize. I didn't make myself clear.

I'm talking about the DCCU and the possibility that it will enjoy an increasingly vibrant palette as the story progresses, signifying the way that Superman's existence, death, and return, elevates a "real," drab world devoid of gods, heroes, and magick into a comic book world where all these things are once again possible.

If you don't like that movie you should destroy yourself completely, like many other faggots in this thread.

Why do people keep hiring Snyder to direct? Are there armies of plebs that actually think he's a talented director? Even the slow-motion aside, he is the worst visual story teller in decades

It's not like the comic is so amazing. The movie loses the intentions of the comic by the end making it pointless, but let's not act like psychic vagina alien is a great idea

Oh, that's why I don't remember that beating. Thanks.

I think you're reading too much into it, we're practically guaranteed a less drab world by virtue of Geoff Johns' increased presence.

What I'm about to say is going to make me sound like an edgelord, so brace yourselves:

Does anybody else really identify with, and by extension, sympathise with Rorschach?

He's a man who's moral compass is so strong, and his sense of right and wrong so black and white, he's driven insane by it. His turning point in life is when he turned from master detective superhero into a vigilante after finding that the missing child he was looking for was raped, murdered, butchered and fed to dogs, he literally lost all faith in humanity. In the comic he talks about the kitty Genovese case, and how most people don't care about what happens to others, so long as it doesn't happen to themselves.

He feels lost in a world where we're led to believe people are good by nature, but in reality, that is not the case.

He is a person who believes that ends do not justify means, which is something I personally agree with. In the end when Adrian's plan has been executed, he is so distraught at the idea of living this lie, he is torn up than so many people had to die, that this new society will be built on the deaths of millions of innocents, that his best friend is willing to comply with such an evil world, he never would have been able to live in veidts utopia, he is a dead breed of person who values human life, the idea of living this lie and existing in this sick world is so painful for him, he practically begs to be killed and taken off this godforsaken planet.

Rorschach is introduced to us in the story as a maniac, a twisted deranged person.

But in the end he turned out to be the most good-hearted and human of all of them.

wait was that Eli Roth as one of the punks?

I'm totally with you. I feel about Rorschach much the same way I feel about the Punisher.

That's true, but multiple coincidences stacked atop one another aren't necessarily coincidences.

Just because one can discern the picture before the puzzle is completely assembled doesn't mean they're suffering from a case of pareidolia.

All I ask is that if these predictions turn out to be accurate, reasonable folks like yourself don't just dismiss it out of hand and acknowledge that there's a chance you owe someone an apology.

You've gotta love when someone askes for another user's opinion and then completely ignores it in favor of just posting a copypasta.

That isn't a discussion, that is waiting for turn to say what you want.

>It's not like the comic is so amazing

It is though.

I agree.

this was the only scene that i think the movie did better than the graphic novel

Don't get me wrong, I love it and I appreciate it for what it was and what it did for comics, but the ending is ridiculous

That's freshly typed, friend. You can only state your case in so many different ways. You gotta love when someone dismisses you without consideration. Really sells their side of the argument.

He's living the NEET life

It's not the same without sound

I wanted to love this movie so bad but they fuck up the pacing and dialogue and sound track so its only decent