Asked in the last thread but I'll ask again, what are your thoughts on Luciano Berio?
Colton Nelson
actually it was a mistake in the first place
Kayden Roberts
pretty good
Jose Bell
I don't see why would rejecting atonalism (wich is not what I'm advocating for) imply falling again into the minimalism trap (wich is already 50 years old).
Sebastian Jenkins
the 3rd movement in his Sinfonia is memey but the good kind
Nicholas Morgan
gimmick based composer, hopefully we will completely forget him in the next 80 years
Isaiah Gonzalez
pretzold
Henry Davis
it's super easy to fall into the trap of doing what works rather than trying to make new forms.
Brody Powell
I don't see how that would concern well intentioned artists.
Matthew Gutierrez
I like him a lot but wish he would have done more non-gimmicky orchestral stuff, like Carter or Lutoslawski.
For a pleb like me who knows nothing about Beethoven, except the Grosse Fugue and the WoO 24 (military march in D, thanks to the user who recommended it btw :), where do I go next to understand why is the greatest of the greatest ?
Grayson Green
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Henry Baker
symphonies 3, 5, 6, 7, 9 are the essentials but the others are swell too
Listen to these works and just assume that he is an actual genius and that you're 100% more stupid and less sophisticated than him (aka: trust him): >14th string quartet >3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th symphony >Piano sonata no. 5, 8, 17, 23, 28, 30, 31 and 32 (the last 4 are his best ones) >The Diabelli Variations
Virtually every single opus he released is worth listening, but start with these. Also the Military March in D is a meme.
Jose Green
That's a very weird name.
Camden Brooks
I'm a big fan. Hugely versatile in a massive variety of musical styles/idioms.
And I've just realised I've not listened to that opera he did with the Calvino libretto, so I'm going to have to do that now.
Josiah Butler
Just finished watching Death in Venice. Mahler's music is prime decadence-core, it works really well for the subject matter.
Christopher Clark
And you're a fucking idiot so I guess everything's the way it should be
Isaac Powell
Rude.
Benjamin Cruz
Sokolov
The only one playing Rameau on piano I can listen to
What's your favorite recording of his stuff? What do you think of his more "gimmicky" stuff?
Josiah Gonzalez
Spinning around my room like a fool to Glinka. Feeling dizzy
Isaiah Cooper
Wow not only do you listen to some sissy gay shit you also behave like a sissy fag.
Anthony Garcia
Spin some more hopefully you'll fall over and hit your head
Easton Rodriguez
Anyone have any comments on my piece? I posted it earlier, it's a passacaglia thing.
If there was /comp/ or whatever. I'd just post there.
Brayden Flores
Related to his "gimmicky" stuff:
I remember once cleaning up my room while having a playlist of Berio going on. It wasn't until I was about halfway through Visage that I realised it probably sounded (to my roommate) that I was just listening to some really loud, weird porn.
I've not listened to much Berio recently (outside of this opera that I'm actually really enjoying, I've been reading lots of Calvino recently hence my interest in hearing this) but the last thing I really enjoyed by him was "The Cries of London"
And the Folk Songs have that evergreen appeal, a lot like his orchestral transcriptions/arrangements
Jordan Taylor
Thanks a lot, I had the 14th string quartet on my hard drive actually, and the first few minutes made me cry, more than the Duster songs I'm used to (I haven't slept a lot though, might explain that reaction). Do you have any similar recommendations for Mozart ? Is his requiem a meme ?
>just assume that he is an actual genius and that you're 100% more stupid and less sophisticated than him (aka: trust him) Yeah, I know I will never be a genius like Gauss or something. I like to shitpost on Taiwainese cartoons forums and drink booze too much, I don't craft my art like this kind of person.
Owen Long
He has my favorite Schubert symphony.
Samuel Perez
It's fucking terrible. It's not a passacaglia, the theme isn't clear, the entire exposition and progression sucks and the whole thing just drags out like molasses without any interesting flair. Actually listen to some compositions before clicking on random buttons on your computer. It's fucking disgusting. >composition Don't make me laugh lmao
Nathaniel Sanders
Feeling slightly offended but still spinning
Robert Ward
You seem very irritable. Is it possibly because an user who doesn't even want to be a composer wrote something better than you? I mean if you were more constructive I'd think otherwise.
Dominic Anderson
I love Sequenzas
Christopher Green
Nice try, samefag. Pathetic. I'm not a composer lmao. Good projection though maybe you could actually get a part time job at a cinema with that you fucking pathetic neet. >nothing constructive >everything that's wrong with the music has been listed Learn what words mean before you use them, retard.
Grayson Torres
Oh, so you have no job? That's sad. I hope you find some success in life, like I have. :)
Carter Young
never liked the Adagietto recording they used for that, so many people play the Adagietto like a bunch of pussies
Sebastian Fisher
>he listens to romantic music unironically
Wyatt Wilson
>still projecting High school dropout detected
Jackson Wilson
i listen to big band baroque with lots of vibrato and wobbly singers, suck it nerd
Austin Price
>still b8ing or spazzing NEET detected
Christian King
>still this fucking retarded Embarrassing
Jack Cruz
You must be the guy that listens to Kurljandski unironically.
Michael Wilson
>still this pathetically obsessed Sad!
Joshua Myers
Tharaud
Cameron Morris
>gets called out and btfo >"h-hurr yer obssessed !1!!" t. double digit IQ
Jose Peterson
faggot
Landon Davis
Bach and before, Ives and after.
Zachary Nguyen
>posts manga/anime Wow, you sure aren't a NEET huh?
Charles Barnes
...
Connor Gomez
That's just a mess
Christian Wright
Just like his sex life
Alexander Barnes
No that Adagietto is especially terrible like sugar frosted shit, most youth orchestras could do better.
Leo Peterson
I guess I'm just trying to understand what's particularly worse than what Max Richter writes.
David Edwards
Messy sex is the best sex
Angel Rogers
yeah i know, but in general i think a lot of conductors are wrong headed about the piece.
Kayden Ross
Dubs confirmed
Never gunna have sex m8
Just gonna listen to classical and lift
Sebastian Bennett
Max Richter is a meme
Michael Watson
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that have LITERALLY spent money on digital music
Alexander Bennett
ok, have fun. music is better anyway
Mason Jackson
Then I'm just asking the wrong people, OK.
Ian Lewis
are those black trousers with brown shoes?
Hunter Lopez
That adagietto is pretty good by Schwarz, maybe not the best but still good, it's just one of the fastest at 7 mins compared to the usual 10 mins. I think I've heard Mahler played it on the faster side, but it doesn't really matter that much.
Cooper Wright
yes, i've heard the Schwarz. it's good. has that nice Everest audio quality too.
little known fact, Horenstein prepared that orchestra and then Schwarz came in and conducted in for the recording.
his requiem is a meme but still listen to it feel free to stop after the lacrimosa though - that's when he kicked the bucket and a student took over listen to his mass in c minor
Owen Moore
Yeah I mean that's the recording used for Death in Venice
Michael King
Franco Mannino conducted it though
Brandon Ramirez
I think the art of fugue was written in 1750 so you're wrong.
Owen Morales
oh really? i always thought it was the schwarz recording that was used for the movie. nevermind.
Thank you. I'm listening to the 9th symphony right now for the first time. I'm popularist and I thought it was a meme, because of the opening of the second movement and the fourth, but damn, the guy sure knew how to use well the dynamics of each instruments, winds, strings, brass, etc. And he also understood harmonic relationships according to time (and space) on a level way deeper than I ever will. The nationalist right-wing would recuperate and put more emphasis on him as an example of "muh culture we need to save from the neo-Saracen" if they were smarter.
Jonathan Collins
is liking mahler patrician?
Luis Sanders
I like to sleep too user
Jeremiah Morgan
Music cannot be patrician because it's a plebs hobby
Anime is patrician.
Christian Baker
It's certainly one of the most dramatic maybe losing out to Britten's, which is designed in part as a homage to Verdi's.
Benjamin Anderson
What are some solo piano pieces or something else with few voices that I can ponder over with some sheet music and figure out how music works? Or maybe a nice book? I know what a cadential 6 4 is but I haven't found a free source that goes beyond that.
>you'll never travel through space while listening to Mahlu Why even live?
Dylan Fisher
>Zelenka >Hasse >Biber >Lotti
Brody Morgan
*reads sparknotes and wikipedia summaries of a bunch of books* Yeah, I guess you can call me a literature hobbyist. Ulysses,Infinite Jest, Paradise Lost, the list goes on...
side note, isn't that edition of Gravity's Rainbow like trash or something?
