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Sup Forums Share your thoughts on fluoride in drinking water, toothpaste...ect

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Less bacteria in your mouth and less chance for tooth cavity.

How can less tooth decay be a bad thing?

Its a cheap way for metal/chemical manufacturers to get rid of a toxic chemical. Seriously, thats all its about.

Dump flouride into a river??...Highly illeagal and kills all wildlife in the river.

Put it in water/food/toothpast??...completely fine!!

Think about that for a minute.

Its about 2 parts in like 500 billion. There are zero health side effects. Well apart from the positive ones.

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Just because it kills fish when dumped in large quantities doesn't mean that it is unhealthy or toxic.

If you dump enough nitrogen into a sealed room with a person in it, they ll suffocate. But not because nitrogen is toxic or anything. It's because they can't fucking breath nitrogen.

>implying fluoride isn't highly toxic

Anything is toxic if you have enough if it

Oxygen is toxic if you over concentrate it

>Dump flouride into a river??...Highly illeagal and kills all wildlife in the river.
It kills river life because fresh water fish die from pretty much any water changes. It's not toxic in that fluoride kills them, it's the resulting pH level change mass quantities of floride can bring.

Humans can handle a lot of different pH levels on our stomachs. A lot different than floride. Also, we aren't breathing the floride like the fish are.

>Put it in water/food/toothpast??...completely fine!!.
"all water contains naturally-occurring fluoride" - epa website

If floride wasn't added in slightly extra quantities, everyone would still be getting dentures in their 30s.

Fluoride is an amazing tool to fight tooth decay. I'd rather have teeth in my old age and drink fluoride water rather than not. Idc about the health implications. There doesn't seem to be any proven ones in the past 70 years though, so yeah.

We need a reasonable way to remove it from the water right before we drink it

If we just get rid of chlorine entirely the water will need something else to kill the germs, otherwise it will grow mold, that is not opinion that is FACT.

BUT it is also fact that chlorine and fluoride is bad for your body.

We don't need fluoride to kill the germs and mold in the water though, only chlorine, as long as you brush your teeth fluoride is USELESS.

So remove fluoride from the water but keep chlorine. But remove the chlorine before you drink it. Not sure how you would achieve the latter but probably some sort of water filter would be a good idea.

FUN FACT: LSD when it comes in contact with Chlorine is destroyed, so dumping LSD in the water supply is useless,the chlorine will destroy it.

Dental fluorosis

I work at a municipial drinking water purification plant. Im the guy that puts fluoride in the water. It is not mandated under any law, the local community voted it in, and they can vote it out whenever they want. I personally have no problem with it. Fluoride is proven to reduce dental carries I drink it, my kids drink it. Ours comes from the Mosiac Corp. It is a byproduct of phosphate production in Florida. Good stuff.

>The mechanism of fluoride toxicity in aquatic organisms is believed to involve the action of fluoride ions as enzymatic poisons. In soft waters with low ionic content, invertebrates and fishes may suffer adverse effects from fluoride concentration as low as 0.5 mg/L.

>lethal dose for most adult humans is estimated at 5 to 10 g (which is equivalent to 32 to 64 mg/kg elemental fluoride/kg body weight)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity

I'm other words. More than eebpugh to cause chronic problems later In life

And flammable to boot

Clueless autist

Next Time I'll just put a little rat poison of your soup. Youll be fine.

Stop fucking ignoring me I'm not a fucking liberal.

>quoting an organization that thought putting a giant Dome over Springfield would work.

I saw a poster in a dentist office 10 years ago that said

Fluorinate your water today!
Prevent cavities tomorrow!

My friends father works for a local water departments for decades and he don't drink it or bathe in it. They are these big unlabeled barrels pumping God knows what into the water supply.

Think I'm joking?

All you have to do is look at the teeth of people who live in countries that don't fluoridate their water. I'm 40 years old and have been drinking fluoridated water all my life and I'm fucking fine. Anyone displaying any proven negative health effects from fluoridated water are weak anyway. I call that natural selection. I've also been drinking Diet Coke for probably 30 years and no cancer. I eat saturated fat in red meat, bacon, butter, and lard, because fuck you, biscuits taste better with lard. I don't weight 400 pounds, I don't have high cholesterol, diabetes, or heart disease. I run, bike, hike, and swim. You know who says shit like fat, sugar, meat, Diet Coke, and fluoride will kill you? Vegans and faggots. Get fucked cuck.

Suck my dick and prove me wrong, I was top of my class in Chemistry you middleschool-brained fuck.

I will be fine. Just as long as you don't put too much in.

We should be more worried about the di-hydrogen monoxide in our drinking water. It is a PROVEN killer, yet it is required by the US EPA to be in the water.

>fluoride in drinking water
good, stop the pipes from decaying
>toothpaste
again good, strengthens your teef

>is somehow proud of drinking diet coke for 30 years.
And you do know that teeth are not supposed to be white right? Genuinely white teeth are ones in poor health. Teeth should be a darker color. This color is not germs or nastieness. It's tooth protection from all the shit you use to try and clean your teeth.

> no safe amount of lead exposure
> fluoride more toxic than lead

it's more than likely that there's also no safe amount of fluoride exposure.
Clair Patterson fought a case against lobbyist for more than 25 years before they officially recognized lead as a substance with no safe amount of exposure. Do you want to take the same risk with fluoride? (which is more toxic than lead)

The US started adding flouride in 1945. In 1940 the averager US life expectancy was 62.9, now it's 79. If the government's poisoning you then they're doing a really shitty job. *Mic drop*

I'll put more than dangerous amounts. Just like the more than dangerous amounts of fluoride In water. And I'll just tell you 2 cups of rat poison is fine per gallon of milk. And when you did one more idiot will be gone. This is natural selecton and we dont need to argue. We just need to kill the people we would argue with.

Retard

> Implying that the only danger of toxins is death

How about neurotoxicity and skeletal fluorosis?

Not all toxins do that shit dipshit

>implying fluoride in the water is the only medical advancement in the past 70 years.
Go kill yourself, your so stupid you'll probably luck into finding the source of eternal life in the process.

2 cups per gallon is too much dipshit.

Prove that the amount of foouride is too much.

I didn't say anything about white teeth, faggot. Where the shit did you see anything in what you read that indicated anything remotely related to white teeth? I don't give a shit why they put fluoride in the water. My point is it hasn't caused me any problems. And yes, Diet Coke is fucking delicious. Also, you're retarded. Have a blessed day.

I was talking about fluoride specifically you retard. I thought that "skeletal fluorosis" implies that it's a property of fluoride. Guess I gotta make my posts autist proof next time.

Thisthisthisthis
You are all retarded.
This I what flouride.
You say a bullet to balls makes your dock grow bigger by when all is said and done your just minus one ball. If the placebo effect makes you think your dock is bigger fine but your dick isn't bigger your just a moron

It's not killing everyone, but maybe all the lead and fluoride helped create the society we have today

You're a nigger, aren't you?

Well for starters, you could read this post and wikipedia entry>lethal dose for most adult humans is estimated at 5 to 10 g (which is equivalent to 32 to 64 mg/kg elemental fluoride/kg body weight)

Put it this way, the elites aren't drinking that shit you drink.

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GOOD point.

I be, he be, you be

It's been proven. Type some words into a bar and read what comes up. God it's not rocet science and even if ot was you can look that up too its not hard

Chemisty, how does it work?

Soidum (Na) will kill you but sodium ions are an essential nutrient (Na+).

Sense, do you even know how to make it?

>implying the first hit of heroin didn't kill him so it's safe
>implying crazy drunk sex with whores for 10 years without getting AIDS meams you'll never get it.
>Implying gorging yourself on junkfood every day is fine since it hasnt given you the betes yet.
>oh boy i smoked a whole carton of smokes and no lung cancer. Smoking must be perfectly healthy.

The people defending the addition of toxic chemicals to their food and water are evidence of the adverse effects of flouride addition...reduced IQ and reasoning skills.

Seriously, why the fuck would you want ANY amount of that poison in your food/water/toothpaste is beyond me.

And yet, people live well into their 90s having done every one of those things. Not all people, granted. But here's something you should understand about some people, myself included. Honestly, we don't give a shit. And if I die prematurely, for whatever reason, at least I'll have gone out having lived life to the fullest. I'm amused by people like you, who avoid sex with whores for fear of AIDS, avoids drugs for fear they will kill you, avoiding a juicy rare hamburger dripping with melted Gouda and bacon for fear your arteries may clog, etcetera, etcetera. I bet you're fun at parties. You know, it's perfectly plausible to enjoy these things in moderation. You know, the way most intelligent people do. If that concept is too much for your feeble mind to understand, just fall back on the knowledge that I just don't give a shit. K?

Nigga, you stupid.

Ah, yes... I too like to enjoy fluoride in moderation.
I wasn't living live the the fullest, until I started using fluoride as seasoning on my food.

People who consume Arsenic on a daily basis through environmental conditions are find having an increased resistance and tolerance to it. Why wouldn't the same apply to Fluoride?

COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE

BUT

fluoride doesn't make you high or give you an orgasm. It makes you feel like shit. Kill your sperm, dumbs you down and it doesn't do a thing to help up.

But germs you
Guess what. You use your reasoning, germs have been around billions of years and everyone hasnt died from germs yet so why cause further harm trying to sove a problem that doesn't exist.
Ex. We have to blow up that building full of kids to stop the evil killer alien.
But sir their is no ali-"no time for that sonny detonate the bombs now."
Then when an alien doesnt kill eceryone you act like toubmade a tough voice and saved the world when I ln reality you got hopped up on hero juice and killed a bunch of kids for no reason. You caused tons damage trying to fix and issue that didn't even exist in the first place

"it is known that chronic low-dose arsenic poisoning can lead to increased tolerance to its acute toxicity"
First off, as you can see on the image I posted, the maximum EPA contaminant levels of fluoride are 400 times as high as for arsenic. Fluoride is at least 80% as toxic as arsenic. So, this blows the "chronic low-dose" thingy out of the water.
Second, fluoride is not arsenic and haven't seen any reports of fluoride tolerance yet.

I grew up on a rural farm with a private well and we all had more cavities than my friends in town with fluoridated water.

Correlation != Causation
Maybe you didn't brush your teeth?

>what are concentrations
go back to pol faggot, we're full

Fluoride is a deadly poison and it's fucking INSANE to put it in the public water supply. There ARE NO STUDIES suggesting it's good for your teeth -- and if there were, it would be good when applied TOPICALLY, not consumed internally!

BUY DISTILLED WATER. This is a big deal -- spend money on distilled water, pure water. I once thought this was a joke, a fringe dweller thing, but then I studied the subject and changed my mind completely.

i do not use an fluoride products, and have a military grade water filter that filters out fluoride. I think much clearer, and feel more aware of my surroundings. When ingesting fluoride I felt like a slug. I have never had any cavities also.

>shilling this hard
>>>pol

It is a TOPICAL treatment that is being ingested by law in a one-size-fits-all serving.

It should not be ingested. If tap water was only gurgled there would be no complaints.

They add it to nursery water. Water for infants. Infants withour teeth. The fuck?

Alone, a little ppm doesn't matter much. The problem is that every consumable thing has it. Pair that with the tiny doses of poison from processed food and the mountain of pharmaceuticals, its a perfect system for keeping healthcare profits high.

There are no studies showing the levels of fluoride in our drinking water are harmful

I brushed my teeth.

I also don't believe in conspiracy theories because more than two people can't keep a secret without someone giving it away.

There are no aliens at Area 51; its a place for the military to test out new secret aircraft.

There is no such thing as chemtrails; it's just vapor from the air.

And fluoride s not a poison or mind control device.

YES HAHA, U TOOK THE BAIT:
Did you brush your teeth with fluoride toothpaste?
Oh... looks like the fluoride didn't prevent you from getting cavities? :o
Also, fluoride is literally classified as a toxin you ignorant fuck.

And if you think more than two people can't keep a secret without someone giving it away, look into project manhatten... over 100.000 people helped to build the first atom bomb. Yet, only a dozen knew what they were actually making!
That, is the power of hierarchy. People don't get to see the bigger picture from their position. Everbody knows something, but almost noone has the full story.

It taste good faggot.

And even if it's not to dumb us down, its a cheap way for metal/chemical manufacturers to get rid of a toxic chemical (as someone else already commented). You may ask, why would the government let them dump fluoride in our water supply? Well, because lobbyists and corruption that is...

OP, you are a faggot.
The real problem in water is not fluoride, but a way more dangerous chemical: di hydrogen monoxide. You can find it in every water, and the government wants you to drink it. Every shit like fluoride, cloride, etc are only smoke in your eyes to hide the real bad guy

Why would anyone fluoride in water if it is already plenty of it in toothpaste?

It just a complete waste of money and threat to the public.

I would agree except chemtrails have been completely proven. The government has admitted the use of chemicals to manipulate weather. They said it was to improve fraught conditions and such but it's still a complete admission to something thousands of people deny because they don't want to admit that they've been fucked up by their way of life. It's ok it's not your fault. I know you don't want to admit that your teeth and brain and organs have been damaged almost beyond repair. It's simple denial and it's natural.

We shouldn't hate on people for not admitting it. We need to help them get through the denial that is completely a factor of human nature.

Wow. What an asshole. I could see your setup from the first post but it was idiotic. City kids use toothpaste too. Your guilty of the same thing you just criticized. Get your argument together before you post or you look like a fool.

"The government has admitted the use of chemicals to manipulate weather"

Please, share your source

Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

There are loads of studies backing its evidence shitbrick.

Youtube

>credible source
B-buh-buh the government lies on their sites

> Your guilty of the same thing you just criticized
I brush my teeth with fluoride-less toothpaste and drink non-fluoridated water and I haven't had any cavity ever.

>YouTube
Kek

Itt people not understanding flouride and its interaction with calcium carbonate in your teeth.

Apparently liberals want shitty teeth and ebola 'cus muh autism vaccine.

>> claims not tinfoil hat wearing neck beard
>> buys water instead of a filter

To add to your point: some people may want to look up nitrit and nitrate contamination.

That shit is fucking poisonous and we are overconsuming it every day.

What interaction? Dental fluorosis?

>calcium carbonate
not knowing it's phosphate, actually.

Dentist here - with special skills in paediatrics and prevention.

There is lots of evidence showing a fluoride is safe and effective in preventing dental decay. People who are strongly against it are idiotic and increasing the risk of self inflicted dental problems - not that I care.

Get out of here you tin foil hat wearing nut job!

Actually its hydroxyapetite.
~dentist

>More than eepugh

Looks like you've already got some chronic problems.

Believe what you want, but ther fluoride guys are the tin foilers

atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/csem.asp?csem=28&po=5

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Doesn't fluoride in toothpast is already enough?

prozac is 94% fluoride

It also kills small bacteria in water. Keeping you even more safe

THE TRIPS HAVE SPOKEN

exactly. and that's calcium hydroxy-phosphate.
What I mean is, if that guy doesn't even know that, he surely doesn't know the "interactions between fluoride and CALCIUM CARBONATE in your teeth" lol

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Fluoride combined with good oral hygiene and diet is enough, however tooth decay is rampant and entirely preventable.

When you consider the huge prevalence of tooth decay, then any additional help is certainly of benefit to reduce the decay rates.

Fluoridation of water is easy to administer to large populations, safe and effective.

I noticed that my body's defences got better and i barely get sick anymore since i switched to a toothpaste without fluoride.