>2014 >Perfect Hair revolutionizes hip-hop, which is at least the second time Busdriver did this >2015 >To Pimp a Butterfly revolutionizes hip-hop >2016 >Atrocity Exhibition revolutionizes hip-hop
What seminal landmark of experimental hip-hop will come out in 2017?
Brandon Ramirez
Neutral Milk Hotel will come back so that Jeff can spit some bars. It won't be innovative, but because it's Neutral Milk Hotel, people will praise it as being the GOAT
Grayson Torres
Sup Forums will hate this, but honestly we're in one of the biggest periods of progress in Hip-hop. I think we're going to look at this in the same vein as how the early 90's and early 00s took rock up a notch.
Owen King
ITT
Caleb Baker
It already came out
Gabriel Hill
V or the soundtrack to kuso whichever releases first
Chase Nelson
how did any of those "revolutionize" hip hop? I haven't heard a rap album I'd describe as revolutionary since cLOUDDEAD
Jonathan Murphy
Okay SPF 100
Nolan Diaz
and then rock died
Owen Cox
Hip Hop will "die" in the year 2020 and become a post-modern mess just like rock and roll
Doubles confirm
Logan Wright
We are already deep into the post-rap era and have been for a couple of years now. Doesn't mean hip-hop itself is dying.
Thomas Morris
well, i mean hip hop has pretty much had its run. a few more good years perhaps
Cooper James
>Perfect Hair revolutionizes hip-hop
Nolan Nelson
>TPaB revolutionizing hip hop
Haha, wow. Mos Def did it better in 1999 and that wasn't even the first time.
Kayden Reed
What is your definition of "revolutionize"? because to me, at least, none of those albums besides kinda tpab actually pushed the sound of the genre as a whole forward, in fact all of them pretty much settled into niche appeal... They're all great albums don't get me wrong, but I don't really hear they're influence in the current rap landscape.
Benjamin Jenkins
Okay now I want your music suggestions. Not sarcastic I fucking love cLOUDEAD, mostly Yoni and what he does.
Aiden Anderson
>2014 Honestly gotta give it to forest hills drive, pinata and days before rodeo >2015 Again I'll give you tpab but DS2, iyrditl and barter 6 are all pretty much the reason the this year's hip hop sounds the way it does. >2016 Not even a competition: tlop, colouring book and telafone all made gospel soul instrumentals cool again. Gucci came back and taught trap niggas how to do a triple A project and luv is rage basically became the template for SoundCloud rappers everywhere. Like I said before, these aren't necessarily my PERSONAL favorite albums, but when I think revolutionize, I think pushing the sound as whole forward. That's what all these albums did
Nicholas Powell
hip hop is literally the most popular non pop genre of music right wtf are you talking about
Landon Butler
>hip hop is a non pop genre
John Peterson
it's the most popular genre that has a significant non-pop contingent. there's rap on the radio but it's still the most popular genre outside of the pop context
Jonathan Campbell
lol this. holy shit i go away from Sup Forums for a year or two and people are now completely fucking clueless.
Gabriel Nelson
Hip hop """is""" pop music that comes from a very non pop background
In the same way that blues was EXTREMELY popular and influenced pretty much every part of "pop music" during its time (yes I'm aware that technically pop music wasn't invented when blues was big but you know what I meme) but also came from a very non popular source (poor blacks singing about pain and addiction.)
Josiah Turner
>doesn't mean hip-hop itself is dying
desperate pleb clinging to its last threads
Parker Evans
let us fitfully define what our young autists simply do not comprehend:
pop music consists of:
pop r&b hip-hop/rap "indie" rock metal
real music consists of:
everything that is not autistically shilled to you by every possible corporation at every possible second of the day
(extrapolation: your dad covering a song by Rush with his cringey band is MUSIC, some dude poorly belting out an 80s pop hit at a karaoke night is MUSIC, your friend randomly noodling out on his guitar while you're both getting baked is MUSIC, all the people atonally joining in on hymns at church is MUSIC, MUSIC is not pretty. MUSIC is not always what you like. MUSIC is a SOCIAL IDEAL. Anything that doesn't meet that SOCIAL IDEAL is categorized as NOISE. get used to it. this is your fucking life, you insufferable autist.
Owen Evans
That's like saying that rock music isn't a true pop genre because it comes from a very non pop background
That's like saying that country music isn't a true pop genre because it comes from a very non pop background
That's like saying that R&B music isn't a true pop genre because it comes from a very non pop background
That's like saying that EDM isn't a true pop genre because it comes from a very non pop background
The essence of crafting pop music is to take the sounds, themes, and ideas from very non pop genres, and to create catchy versions of them with simple song structures. Just because the genre of hip hop didn't start out as a pop genre doesn't mean it isn't one now. Just because there are hip hop albums that aren't pop music doesn't mean the genre isn't pop.
Nathaniel Evans
now THIS is autism
Chase Cooper
pardon me for thinking someone on a music discussion board was using "pop" in its popular colloquial sense as "music that dominates mainstream pop culture" or even its ever-so-slightly less common definition that refers to a specific, catchy and accessible musical sound.
instead, i should've assumed that they were using the only acceptable definition of pop music, which means apparently "any auditory content that is available for sale or ownership in a capitalistic society".
thank you for opening my eyes, i look forward to having meaningful discussions about genre and culture using "pop" to refer to metal, jazz, hip hop, and pretty much any other delineable genre. you're very smart, and i appreciate your time.
Asher Fisher
Mos Def? The guy that said we should all love God even though not everyone is Christian?
Jaxon Perry
no problem. thank you for defining yourself as someone who is so ignorant that they are utterly unworth exchanging a single word with from this point forward
Dylan Long
>He thinks mu wasn't full of useless idiots two, even four years ago New E W
Evan Lopez
Lol I literally said it is pop... I don't think I ever said anything about "true pop" Thanks for confirmation my point I guess
Jeremiah Lewis
I guess I was thrown because you wrote """"is"""", and because you drew a parallel to blues' popularity
Jason Richardson
I really liked perfect hair but besides using wonky beats and a wide vocabulary it wasnt very groundbreaking. Tpab was just 90s gfunk rebranded plus the knxwledge song and i which was the most unique instrumentally. Lyrically its shit that chuck d said in the 80s. Didnt bother with danny brown cause old sucked
Colton Taylor
>forest hills drive >revolutionary the fuck?
Dylan Edwards
...
Aaron Gonzalez
>Tpab
legit 2 star album couldn't force myself to listen to all of that shit
Angel Rogers
kek
Easton Sullivan
>commercial projects >revolutionize anything but sales
lmao
Isaiah Hill
>Hiding in the attic yeah I feel like Anne Frank!
Christian Rivera
>Momma crying, sipping henny like it's that violet drank
William Cox
hip hop fans on mu are cringe
Isaiah Nelson
Pop is just non traditional or "art" music
Kevin Ramirez
this is one of the worst posts I've read on this site
Jacob Cook
>What seminal landmark of experimental hip-hop will come out in 2017? New mass compilation by Charles Hamilton but y'all niggas will still sleep on it
Elijah Torres
rap is about to go through its grunge phase
Luke Perez
I think he's referring to albums that changed the sound for their contemporaries not necessarily the best album
Michael Martinez
digits confirm
James Baker
And then finally die when it goes into its post-grunge phase
John Cruz
Listening to this now, pretty good but not revolutionary
Luis Brooks
Ew
Henry King
Donuts has, probably By the Throat by Eyedea too. But I don't see how any of these, especially Perfect Hair, changed hip-hop