How come did Finland get rich exactly?

>frozen swamps
>not really any significant natural resources
>located basically in Eastern Europe
>never had any colonies, belonged to Sweden and then to Russia

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They got proper national state with german elites

+finlandisation was profitable for them, they sold a lot here and worked here

this

t. german elite

Finland is poor shithole wit commieblocks like Russia, but Russia is more rich anyway.

Vasili, I...

>german elites

Please do explain.
And to answer, we jewed both sides in the cold war period and forceindustrialized ourselves after ww2 to pay reparations. After that we've focused hard on innovation and it has payed off with such things as linux, Nokia and angry birds.


>Poor shithole.

Hmm......

So, how's the 80's? Propaganda sure is funny down there.

reindeers and nokia

Human capital is how the nordic countries got so good in general.

>german elites

>findland
>rich

lol fucking poles, you poor twisted bastards don't know your ass from your elbow

>Ebinlad poor shithole
>Russians prefer to cross the border and buy foods there
Really makes your neurons to activate.

>America
>Education

lol, fucking americans they're given every opportunity to educate themselves but they just don't care.

yes our fat is not as rich as americans.

Sisu

Finns prefer to cross the border and buy gasoline here.

>buy foods there
i dont get it, it's expensive as fuck here
this i get since it's also expensive as fuck here

Rank Country GDP per capita (PPP)
1 Qatar 140,649
2 Luxembourg 98,460
3 Singapore 82,763
4 Kuwait 73,246
5 Brunei Darussalam 71,185
6 United Arab Emirates 67,674
7 Norway 65,614
8 Switzerland 59,540
9 United States 54,629
10 Saudi Arabia 52,010
11 Ireland 49,393
12 Netherlands 48,253
13 Austria 47,682
14 Germany 46,401
15 Australia 45,925
16 Denmark 45,537
17 Bahrain 45,500
18 Sweden 45,297
19 Canada 45,066
20 Iceland 43,993
21 Belgium 43,435
22 Finland 40,676
23 United Kingdom 40,233
24 France 39,328
25 Oman 38,631

>barely richer than muslim shitholes.... congrats

They were always powerful warriors

But these "muslim shitholes" are full of oil. They're rich as fugg.

> i dont get it, it's expensive as fuck here

It was slightly cheaper and much better quality before 2014. Now it's more expensive and less people go to finland to buy food and fucking Fairy washing-up liquid.

Now only richfags go there to buy sanction food

>i dont get it, it's expensive as fuck here
Dude, we even have special bus trips for this kind of a "sightseeing" in Petrograd.
They drive directly to "rus=hus" markets.

>sanction food

Sanction food? What a fucking mess. Holy shit!
Why don't you just back off from Crimea and quit meddling in american politics?

They like our milk products.

>Why don't you just back off fro
Russians are slave here.

>tfw lactose-intolerant

as far as i remember crimeans voted to join russia

Black?

gdp isn't everything

>voted
It doesn't count in UN

Oh, for fuck sake.
That shit was rigged hard.

Mixed

>t. liberal.

rigged with UN watchers on site?

Autism, how countries like Japan with no resources got rich.

Japan and Finland are the most autistic countries in the world, that is how they developed so quickly

> Why don't you just back off from Crimea

I suspect even if we return crimea they won't ease sanctions :(

These sanctions will last ~30-40 years at least

Fucking Jackson–Vanik amendment was repealed in 2012 when borders were opened for 21 years.

?

gdp is an awful stat to compare with. Now show me the credentials it makes up it's statistics? And what does it take into account and what it doesn't?

If you remove oil countries or tax havens/banking """ industry""", Finland is easily on top 10 despite having no significat natural resource.

Man
Not exactly

This is not the 2000's. The only one of these that I can say is an oil shithole is Qatar and Kuwat.
Oman has mining, some agriculture and Tourism. Saudi Arabia alone can get money from the pilgrimage business and since UAE has no taxes many companies started there and many ports were established, plus some tourism in winter.

But keep believing what you want to believe my monkey friend.

this.

Micro/non countries with oil/tax evasions are basically cheating especially if they have a population of like 5 people.

You can't possibly think that what russia did in crimea is even remotly justifiable.

>Finland
They're not autistic.

Stop being dicks, and the sanctions will be lifted.

Inshallah, my brother.

>german elite
We never had that, estonia did and they disappeared during ww2

Countries like Japan and Finland give me a hope that one day my country will be rich and developed too.
But then I remember that it's full of muslims and churkas

> Stop being dicks, and the sanctions will be lifted.


I want to believe but I expect worst

>1 Qatar 140,649
Oil banana state

>2 Luxembourg 98,460
The whole country is one big bank

>4 Kuwait 73,246
Oil banana state

>5 Brunei Darussalam 71,185
Oil banana state

>6 United Arab Emirates 67,674
Oil banana state

>7 Norway 65,614
Oil banana state

>10 Saudi Arabia 52,010
Oil banana state

>17 Bahrain 45,500
Oil banana state


When these are not taken in count we are 14th.

I'm not an expert on the issue.
But as far as i know... Ukraine went apeshit.
Russians took control of an area with russian population, 0 resistance and the locals voted to join russia again with UN watchers doing their thing.

The USA is also an oil banana state.

USA is and oil banana bank state. You could rule it out of every one of these rankings.

Of course there was no fucking resistance.
There was a military invasion of crimea by the russians, and the ukrainian military didn't resist because you don't really want to pick up a fight with russia.

Is brazil a banana oil state? or just a banana state?

what do you finns export^?

youtube.com/watch?v=g26At-nXvSo
Mitä mieltä olette iraanista ja hezbollahista?

Yes and they held a vote and crimeans decided to join russia.
Wasn't it like 95% join?

Okay then we are 13th, wew!

We export lifts and cranes, cruise ships, forest products. These are the biggest products that I could come up with spontaneously.
Our exports has gone down a lot lately though. That's why our rank is falling all the time. We are drowning.

>1 Qatar 140,649
Oil
>2 Luxembourg 98,460
bank
>3 Singapore 82,763
micronation tax haven
>4 Kuwait 73,246
oil
>5 Brunei Darussalam 71,185
Oh look another microstate for the extremely rich
>6 United Arab Emirates 67,674
oil
>7 Norway 65,614
oil (nice people tho)
>8 Switzerland 59,540
bank
>9 United States 54,629
Oil/bank
>10 Saudi Arabia 52,010
oil
>11 Ireland 49,393
Dis be legit.
>12 Netherlands 48,253
Legit
>13 Austria 47,682
As far as i know legit though they had some gold right?
>14 Germany 46,401
legit
>15 Australia 45,925
legit
>16 Denmark 45,537
legit
>17 Bahrain 45,500
Microcitystate for rich capitalists
>18 Sweden 45,297
legit
>19 Canada 45,066
legit
>20 Iceland 43,993
legit
>21 Belgium 43,435
legit
>22 Finland 40,676
LEGIT
>23 United Kingdom 40,233
legit
>24 France 39,328
legit
>25 Oman 38,631
oil

atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/fin/

Considering that we have only 100 years of history 50 of it agrarian shithole and world wars.

I'm pretty happy being the 47th richest nation in the world amongst such giants as Britain and france.

No of fence
Sweden or Finland, which is better country with better future?
And why?

>Wasn't it like 95% join?

You have to be a fucking moron to believe that these results are accurate.

>We export lifts and cranes, cruise ships, forest products.
For real? Tell me about some finnish brands.
Do you guys make cars?

>Our exports has gone down a lot lately though.
and why is that?

I wasn't being passive aggressive or anything.
I was genuinely curious about some finnish exports.

oispa kaljaa

Sweden, Their economy is super stable and even their current immigration problems won't even make their gdp growth budge.

Ours is heavily reliant on our innovation and Europe's stability if everything goes to shit we crash and burn.


And i wasn't being neither. just told my angle on it and gave you our exports.

Sweden is the better country but Finland has the better future (granted they fix their recession).

atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/fin/all/show/2014/
I wish this site had up to date information.

I'll protect Finland

You and what monkey army?

Actually britain and US are the ones to probably protect us. Alongside with ourselves and Sweden.

For a non-nato country we've stacked up a pretty good alliance network for ourselves.

But Finland is loved by everyone so everyone would protect Finland.
Support Finland from east island and support from jungle here.

Why is Finland's economy stagnating atm? Also their unemployment rate is quite high for western European standards

>You have to be a fucking moron to believe that these results are accurate.
How so? If the population is russian and the area is historically tied to russia?
Wasn't that place "given" to ukraine during soviet union or some shit?

Just me, really.

This guy gets it

Finland's lost some major industrial players like Nokia and lack the natural resources of, say, Sweden. Hopefully they'll recover.

tell me about your natural resources

Total annihilation of Nokia, europe's current situation and the unemployement is mostly because of oversaturation of the IT markets. And we have a problem with young people opting for neeting.

Because of the Euro they can't control inflation, because they can't control inflation, they never recovered fully from the '07 crash.
Pretty much the same thing Greece and Southern Europe is experiencing.

Not to mention Nokia which was their main industry. Finland has seemed dependent on one huge company at a time, so hopefully something comes up again.

Also i haven't seen any evidence from UN that it was rigged or anything like that.

What exqactly happened to Nokia anyway?

kremlinbot

>Singapore is a tax heaven
>Ireland and Netherlands are legit

Show me the evidence. I'm a total finn btw, if russians tried that shit here they'd eat lead and cannonfire.

Iphone and Samsung smartphones outclassed Nokia and Nokia Opted for Windows (which didn't work) and they just sold their phonelicensingrights to microsoft. After that they sticked to their original stuff they made which was Boots and car tires. Now they've gotten their licenses back and are going for round 2 with android powered phones.

They made the wrong move when it came to smartphones.
Essentially, going Windows Phone killed them. They picked an OS which was doomed, when everyone was already in the market.
They were also left with development, which wasn't what they were supposed to do.

After Microsoft bought them up completely it just got worse.

If they'd make a move quicker to smartphones/tablet market and go Android, they'd probably have some success at least.

Sweden has better economy but they are becoming an islamic caliphat.
It's a matter of what you value more.

>Kone
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kone
One of the biggest Finnish companies making different elevators, lifts and cranes.

>Ship building industry
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Allure_of_the_Seas
This for example, and the sister ship Oasis were built in Turku shipyard.

>Metso
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metso
Roots in forest products, but the scale has expanded.


>Do you guys make cars?
Well some Mercedes models are assembled in Finland, but there's not really any Finnish car brands.
Sisu is a Finnish cargo truck manufacturer though.

>we have a problem with young people opting for neeting

This. The Finnish social welfare state is coming to the end of the road. People have become lazy.

The issue is far more complicated

We need a new war with Russia to get rich again.

this

>Finland was originally obliged to pay $300,000,000 in gold to be paid in the form of ships and machinery, over six years.[1][2] The Soviet Union agreed to prolong the paying period from six to eight years in late 1945. In summer 1948 the sum was cut to $226,500,000. The last dispatched train of the deliveries paying the war reparations crossed the border between Finland and the Soviet Union on 18 September 1952, in Vainikkala railway border station. Approximately 340,000 railroad carloads were needed to deliver all reparations.[3]

That worked out for us...

Trees and ore out the wazoo. Sweden used to produce two thirds of Europe's copper etc.

I think we might also have uranium somewhere but that shit ain't getting dug up anytime soon.

yeah fucking commies making concessions and gifts to other countries yet Russia's actually still paying USSR debts
they said in the news that this year Russia's going to pay the last of what USSR owed

to some ex Yugo shithole like Bosnia and Huigovina that didn't even exist back then

>Bosnia and Huigovina
This is great, thanks.

commies suck :(

We have trees too but they sure aren't the future.

>Now they've gotten their licenses back and are going for round 2 with android powered phones.
Good luck, Finland.

There's this overweight finnish guy here on Sup Forums who has embraced NEETdom.

how so?

>that shit ain't getting dug up anytime soon.
why not?

>Bosnia
Sounds like Ssanina

All these Muslims in need of liberation

AYO HOL UP. WE ARE CAR MAKERS N SHIET

It's called Toroidon. It's an electric car

Russians invaded Crimea, then there was the "referrendum".

But user, if they invaded why weren't there hundreds or thousands of casualties?

I like electric cars

So, the americans didn't invade Iceland during ww2?

Yeah. It's a solid industry but it won't really get you anywhere.

>why not?
Because uranium mining pollutes the shit out of the surrounding environment etc. I think there might also be some national security concerns.

wasn't the first referendum back in 1994?
but yeah in 2014 it was necessary
you know, Ukraine wouldn't really let people vote for their freedom so somebody had to give Crimeans that right when in Kiev the lagal president was illegally being overthrown

autism
i am not even joking

>But as far as i know... Ukraine went apeshit.
As far as I know Russia went apeshit after Ukraine decided to break the dependence on Russia and establish ties with the West.

Why does every single country, if it has a chance, always rebels against Russia?

>On May 10, 1940, British military forces began an invasion of Iceland when they sailed into Reykjavík harbour in Operation Fork. There was no resistance, but the government protested against what it called a "flagrant violation" of Icelandic neutrality and Prime Minister Hermann Jónasson called on Icelanders to treat the British troops with the politeness as if they were guests. They behaved accordingly and there were no mishaps. The occupation of Iceland would last throughout the war.