How did we fuck this election up so badly, America?

How did we fuck this election up so badly, America?

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Because your pic didn't get a chance to run against the Republican, faggot.

get of Sup Forums you libtard

Sup Forums is not your echo chamber. Sup Forums does not hold any unified opinions about anything.

Running a Bush vs a Clinton was never gonna work out.

30% of Bernie fags absolutely refused to vote for Hillary


They wouldn't have voted for him even if Debbie Wasserman Schultz candy Bernie's ass and kissed it daily

except holding the unanimous opinion that your mom is a whore... but i guess it doesn't matter when that opinion is also unanimous across all population groups.

Quite simple really, the US Primary system showed it's flaws in both parties, but with the opposite problems.

Democrats had a system where the party leaders could pick a candidate (via superdelegates) regardless of popular vote. Hilary abused this as we all know.

The GOP had the opposite problem, with a purely popular vote system, the party was not able to block trump from getting the nomination. As a result, he walked out with a minority majority with the other candidates in the primary splitting the vote. As we know this pisses a great deal of people off in the GOP who didn't want trump to get the nomination.

Intersting that both candidates abused the opposite problems in their respective party.

I fall into this category. I didn't vote Clinton or Trump but would've gladly voted for the one candidate who, despite some of his more retarded policy objectives, seemed like he actually had the best interest of the country in mind.

Underestimating the growing number of people who absolutely despise Hillary Clinton

ps BUILD THE WALL

This guy gets it.

i voted hillary and wouldve voted bernie but lets understand bernie is not the great leader this country leaves and he wasnt that smart.

bernie was okay but he still wanted to let the owners ruin the country, just pay a little more.

we need a leader that understands that capitalism is an awful system and wont pussy around saying so outright.

if we cant get a flatout socialist then we need someone with a better understanding of taces and economic issues than bernie. bernie wanted to tax businesses. you dont tax businesses you need to tax the owners

if i cant get a socialist then i want someone AT LEAST pushing for
>tax inheritance over 100k at 90%
>tax income over 300k at 90%
>eliminate capital gains and classify it as income because thats what it is
>tax the fuck out of wall street trading

i also want someone whos going to put together a legal team and persecute all the big owners on tax evasion. the ebidence is there, we just need someone who isnt a pussy

if you want to be an owner, banker, or investor who doesnt work then youre not getting obscenely rich

>Implying Bernie was the answer

How the fuck was he going to pay for any of the shit he was promising? Not only that but #Feelthebern victims got fucked.

What's he doing now? He's going on talk shows to promote his new book. I guess 2 summer houses and a luxury sports car wasn't enough.

People who think socialist countries are such a paradise need to actually go to them. Let me know how Canada is when you actually live there.

Nothing is free. You think free healthcare could be a reality? Someone would be paying for it. Who do you think that would be, huh? There'd be increased taxes out the ass. People in America on this Bernie train need a fucking reality check.

I like Bernie more than you do but I also like you.

not voting for the main 2 contenders is a vote for the winner. this time it was trump. thanks dumbfuck

>capitalism is an awful system
Spoken like a true lazy person. You know who loves capitalism? Hard workers.

Only lazy welfare leeching socialist loving fucktards think capitalism is evil.

Capitalism is the world's way of separating the lazy from the determined.

You all Fucking pseudointelectuals with this same Fucking shit over and over again

Trump won because he has the balls to speak

Believe it ir not people are tiered of so Fucking much cuckholdry political correctness and gay shit, my argument does not sound smart at like al of your pretentiously shit but its pretty much true


Deal with it
Ps soy mejicano

bernie kept memeing the income inequality but didnt have real solutions. he needed to educate the public on how capitalism ruins the country to eliminate fear of the word socialism and help people understand how fucked they get

Well, you would know...I always wondered why you're obsessed with fucking old wrinkled dred up whores. Smh, you nasty fuck!

Yeah but then he wouldn't have had any chance at all. America isn't ready for that much truth tbh.

You let the Lizard Queen dictate terms. Real democracies don't do that.

You fucked up by having the wrong ideals. Isn't it obvious?

Trump won with the electorate because Hillary didn't offer them anything. No one knows her plans or policies, all we know about her is that she appeals to women who want to see a female president and people who hate Trump.

People wanted something different in the white house other than yet another paid for politician.

Besides, why the fuck are you all ass-mad about it? What's going to change in your day to day lives? I didn't vote Trump or Hillary but I don't get why people care so much. What exactly is going to happen to you? Nothing.

You didn't fuck up just America, you fucked the whole world.

No.

Nice logic, professor.

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>You know who loves capitalism? Hard workers.

I really wish basic economics was mandatory in all schools and mandatory earlier. Sadly, most people like you can drop out at 16 before your senior year and never even step foot into an economics classroom. Not to mention the rest of the classes you miss out on that help build your critical thinking skills.

The American education system is a joke and Bernie would fuck it up further with his inability to comprehend basic economics.

B-b-but user, a vote for a third party is a vote for whoever I didn't vote for, don'tcha know? Stop voting for the candidates I didn't vote for!

Yeah I know. On behalf of the apparent minority of Americans who aren't retarded, I apologize. I truly sincerely am sorry.

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pretty much this

>pic related, screencapped from another thread.

you have no idea ehat capitalism is then. capitalism is all about owners. if you have money (which you didnt work for, big owners all inherited it or scammed for it), you shove the money someehere, workers do the work and you profit off their work.

socialism is worker centric. the workers get paid for the work you do. you want more money? do more work.

you dont need welfare in socialism. i am not a big fan of welfare but capitalism desperately demands welfare. under socialism, we could offer real opportunities for people to get paid to get educated. no one would have an excuse to not get educated and work. then we could truly let the leeches die.

>socialists be so stupid cuz i say so
great argument.

hey remember the 40s 50s and 60s of economic prosperity? remember what kind of taxes we had?

Hard workers...Jesus Christ. Thieves can work their assessment off, but being a hard worker doesn't justify their actions. Typical Cocksucker Mentality: I earned this fair and square.

YLYL

fucking hillary ruined everything
how can a candidate be so terrible?

This is bullshit, the only way you get ahead in capitalism is by competing and destroying others. It's not hard workers who love capitalism it is the predatory lizard people who love capitalism

Those people should have worked harder to be born white LOL

I don't think his mum is a whore

>LOL
Please kill yourself.

>A board full of NEETs support socialism and benefits

Gee, who would have thought?

Thanks user, I'll tell her you said so. :^)

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im an electrician and a socialist. feel free to post anything substantial and i'll respond to it.

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>LOL

My grandparents were white,
one grandfather worked as farmer and the other in ironworks.
Both were socialists i.e. hated capitalism

What country are you/they from? Fellow socialist here, just curious.

because you play into identity politics and call people racist/sexist/bigot/homophobes when they're not, and ppl get fed up

or you refuse to acknowledge rural America/the working class as real people

or leftist ideology is just plain shitty and the policies never work :-)

France

because faggots like you who think silencing half the population cause they don't wanna hear what the people have a problem with.
we are the 99 faggot

Makes sense. I'm American, and was guessing you were European. There were very few socialists here back then.

Except social security and single payer healthcare around the globe, but aside from those leftist policies NEVER work

And even fewer after McCarthyism

you're delusional if you think the wealthy will pay 90% tax on anything. businesses will disappear so fast it will make your head spin, the wealthy will simply keep their deposits offshore.

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please consider investing a few hours of your time and educating yourself by watching the video above.

the lefts policy benefits the working class. rural america are not workers, theyve been on welfare for 20years.

they were at one time manual laborers. the left has offered them relocation and retraining and they dont want it. the left has reached out repeatedly to rural america. rural america doesnt want solutions and they dont want the country to progress.

they want to go back to the 70s where their dumb inskilled ass made bank tinkering in a factory. they want minorities gone, they want all these uppity women to be subserviant, they want to be rewarded for being uneducated slugs.

trump did not offer them anything real, only words that pandered to their retardation.

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which is why i said, go after the offshore faggots for tax evasion. either they pay the taxes or they get jailed. they are free to leave as their businesses are overseas anyway. there is no benefit to keeping them here, they are moochers.

Holy shit dude, you and me both

He would have been worse.
The democratic party fucked up by fronting clinton despite the voters saying no.

look its mr. knowitall.

Basic problem is that we income and job disparity to grow so large that a disproportionate number of well educated high income people have moved to a small number of cities. Since the election is district based rather than a pure democratic election, this meant that the better of the two candidates which was chosen by a large majority still lost the district based election, and so the minority candidate won. The minority candidate, unsurprisingly, favors policies that will be destructive on the whole, but just might favor his constituents which would hopefully lead to a rebalancing of the country's population, which might bring the electoral systems back in like with democratic ideals. Or, you know, he could screw up the whole thing and then we'll all get flushed.

sure kid. lets start with bill and hill.

Spent their time pandering niggers and spics, calling men evil, and then expected white guilt to carry them. Can't win an election with minority votes, who could have guessed.

Do people find this funny?

It's just a list of memes... I... I don't...

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>shit can get seriously fucked up real fucking fast.

Quads checkum

> Hilary abused this as we all know.
Even if Bernie got every single superdelegate, Hillary still would have won the nomination. Bernie got 3 million less votes.

Lol

>tax inheritance over 100k at 90%
So literally anyone who owns any amount of property, including the working poor, middle class, and virtually every single small business and farm deserves to get assraped by the government. This would destroy every single family owned business in america and make most of america homeless

You're either a moron, someone who lives in a shitty apartment, someone still living with their parents and doesn't actually own anything, or all three.

Mor

B-but how else will we give niggers free shit?!?

>get assraped by govt
the fact you frame it like this shows you aren't ready for discussion, but i'll try it anyway.

inheritance only makes unfairness worse. inheritance is unearned money. getting an inheritance because of which vagina you fell out of is not a fair system. you should have to earn your money not be born into it. you should have to earn opportunities not be born into them. keeping wealth in families keeps others from being able to work for the wealth. 100k is plenty for anyone.

>family owned

understand that owners do not work. the managers manage, the researchers research, the workers work. the owners are only good for making sure they make a profit and providing original money (capital)

the same business can run without an owner to suck up profits. the profits can go back to the workers, into costs, and the rest back to where society needs it.

no one is attacking any families. no one deserves jobs, careers, money, opportunity bc of their last name. workers should get paid for the work they do regardless of bloodtype

your dad owning something has nothing to do with you.

Sadly there are people who actually think that. People who don't consider how many hundreds of thousands of dollars an average small business is worth, how many millions of dollars can go into land, equipment, buildings to run a farm.

These are the morons who'd rather sit on their asses and get a government check because it's "unfair" to the poor niggers in Detroit who can't seem to get a job. I'm willing to bet that at least 99% of all the faggots posting on Sup Forums have never worked a real job in their lives or hold any responsibility.

>you should have to earn your money

AGREE, all this social welfare freebies have to cease. Earn your way, or lose your right to vote.
Exist as a ward of the stat Native American style.

>ITT

inheritance is not earning your money.

socialism is not welfare. welfare exists because of the unfairness capitalism creates. if you provided fair opportunities to people under socialism, you can eliminate welfare since people have a real opportunity to educate and get trained to work.

>your dad owning something has nothing to do with you

Spoken like a neo-commie punk who has nothing, no father even. Go out and earn some,
gain some shit you treasure, and then you can donate it to the gov if you want. Fuck off.

WE WON!

FUCK YEAH!

If Trump supporters didn't reply your thread would die.

There are like 2 Libtards on this entire board

>inheritance only makes unfairness worse. inheritance is unearned money. getting an inheritance because of which vagina you fell out of is not a fair system. you should have to earn your money not be born into it. you should have to earn opportunities not be born into them. keeping wealth in families keeps others from being able to work for the wealth. 100k is plenty for anyone.
So you believe that the government should strip a family of their farm that they have worked on for literally hundreds of years because "it's unfair" and if they don't want the government to strip it from them they should come up with $7 million or $8 million to pay the government. Because as you know every dairy farmer or corn farmer are all multimillionaires who don't have all of their money invested into their property and their livelyhoods.
>understand that owners do not work. the managers manage, the researchers research, the workers work. the owners are only good for making sure they make a profit and providing original money (capital)
This is how I know you've never worked a single god damn day in your entire life. If I open a small store in any average city it will cost upwards of over a million dollars to purchase the property, either build or refurnish my place of business, buying everything needed to run that business, having money on hand to pay the employees. If I own a small deli for instance I'm not going to be smoking cigars in the back office while I gloat about how little I pay my workers, I'm probably going to be slicing fucking salami, just like if I run a farm I'm probably going to be milking some cows or getting into my tractor and fucking plowing.

You literally have no idea how the world works because I know for a fact you've never held a job, actually talked to anyone who owns a business, and desperately just want free shit from the government. Your idea would literally destroy every single business in America. In short, you're a socialist.

This is a false statement.

>unfairness capitalism creates

Fuck off to a communist country, we are not falling for that BS.

nope. the government should not be in the business of deciding how much money is "plenty" for any individual. people should have the right to earn money, and either spend it, invest it, or leave it for their family as they see fit. if you have enough money to leave behind to provide a comfortable life for your survivors, then you should have the right to do so. it is no business of the government to impose an excise tax intended appropriate this money for its own purposes.

your family earning money and distributing these earnings to surviving generations has nothing to do with the government.

identity politics mostly

Care to explain why you have a right to my property?

You are a thief. Period.

You need to stop believing "theory" in regards to Socialism and read a fucking history book.

It's always the same shit. Thus time it'll work because we care more.

Capitalism is moral. Mutual benefit.

Socialism is immoral. Theft.

Liberty > Equality

Liberty uber alles.

Liberty is fine when it isn't outweighed by other more important concerns, of which there are many.

>this is what retards actually believe

>nothing of substance was said
typical capitalist

you did nothing to deserve your family's farm. you didnt earn it.

owners do not work, they own. your family farm has workers and managers who deserve to be able to earn the wealth you hoard.

you act as tho the govt is attacking you. no one is attacking you. you are not stripped of anything you earned.

if you own a salami shop, you are going to pay people to cut the salami and manage. if you are a tiny, tiny business you might manage. in that case, you can still be a manager under socialism. socialism does not prevent you from working.

your family did nothing to earn the money, samefag. no one deserves money or opportunity bc your dad had some. that is not working for money.

the more wealth you hoard, the less wealth there is for people to work for.

can you explain why your kid has a right to your property?

once you own your property it is yours. it is not your kid's. its not hard to understand. you made use of society to earn your car. now it goes back to society. if your kid wants to earn money and own the same property you had, that is fine. but inheritance is not working.

"liberty" when you hoard wealth, you are taking the liberty away from others to work for that wealth.

>you did nothing to deserve your family's farm. you didnt earn it.
Except by working on it since I was 6? I thought you were fond of the notion of the workers having claim to the means of production? Or does that only count when you yourself don't have to produce anything and can just play video games while the government supports your lifestyle?
>owners do not work, they own.
Yes they do, every single day. The fact that you believe that every business owner is some evil caricature of a 1920's capitalist tells me you're a moron. The fact that you believe that someone who owns a business which barely breaks even has the luxury of not working at their business tells me you're a moron.
> your family farm has workers and managers who deserve to be able to earn the wealth you hoard.
You mean three people, My father, me, and my uncle. All of which work on a farm worth around $300,000. If you actually had some live experience you might know how little $100k actually is.

You're either trolling or just providing additional proof that socialists are retards.

Because you all ran a lying,corrupt beotch

I wish I had the privilege of considering $100k a small amount of money tbh.

if you want to work on a farm, feel free to do so. socialism does not prevent that.

you think that milking some cows at 6 years old gives you ownership rights?

if you wanna work at 6 ok i guess. you can get compensated for the work you do. not more, not less.

under socialism, you would not need to work at 6 as education and other activities would be available.

you think every owner works in a tiny little shop with only 1 other employee. thats true of a tiny tiny tiny percentage of businesses. again, any work they do can be fairly compensated under socialism.

how many people in your family own the farm and how much it is worth is completely irrelevant. any work they do will be compensated under socialism.

>fuck this election up so badly
>implying

I don't see how it was fucked up. The childish response from the losing side proved America dodged a gigantic bullet.

We don't want Islam, and we are sick of the new breed of feminism. Hillary embodied both.

We plan on keeping Trump.

Thanks .

How much do you think the average house is worth in america? It's $188K, which according to your dreamland economic ideas would mean the average person would need to pay 169.2K upfront when their parents died, never mind the fact that their parents payed that house off over 30+ years with a mortgage.

I'd recommend you stop posting because you're only proving how stupid and ignorant you actually are.

>your family did nothing to earn the money, samefag. no one deserves money or opportunity bc your dad had some. that is not working for money.

jesus christ you are dense. it's every person's right to earn money and save it, invest it, or leave it for their survivors as they see fit. as long as you aren't doing anything illegal, it's nobody's business what you do with it. if you have enough to leave for your children when you die, then you should have the right to do so. it's not the government's fucking business to step in and reclaim your money when you die.

>the more wealth you hoard, the less wealth there is for people to work for.

you and all your commiefag friends, have a severe deficiency in your understanding of the world around you. sustainable economic growth is built on savings not spending. savings ("hoarding" as you call it) in the form of bank deposits are reinvested directly into the economy in the form of consumer and business loans via fractional reserve banking. this creates growth, opportunity and jobs and is the true engine of a productive economy. so the more wealth accumulated in savings, means there are more investments and jobs created in the economy - not less.

that's a bad fucking shoop

We are unified in the belief that you are indeed a massive faggot

The reason we fucked up is the same reason you can't seem to understand and refuse to listen to "Trumpfaggots"