He singlehandedly stunted 4 generations of tonal music. Fuck him.
Lucas King
first for man who saved music
Joshua Myers
>singlehandedly Not really, though
Carter Powell
Still didn't make him Italian!! He was Austrian.
Austin Scott
>Mozart's favourite language was Italian not true by the way his language of choice was French, to such extent that he wrote his name in French
Jackson Russell
>Not really, though
Give me a break, he has been for 5 decades one of the most (for a few decades THE most) popular conductor and composer in the world. He has been the face of contemporary music for half a century, and he shared that spot with very few other guys, who shared his exact opinion on what modern music had to be.
He's responsible for what has happened in the 20th century, especially considering how political, radical and tyrannical he has been.
Jose Carter
And I hear it pissed off the German and Italian officials because of the fact that France was post-revolution.
>and his infamy was mostly for the inflammatory statements he made in his youth.
I've already studied his career, and I can assure you that he stopped making those statements in the '80s and started regretting them in the '90s.
>His music was never "popular." Minimalism was more popular when it came to the general public, but his music was basically teh manifesto of what went on for 50 years in academic music. I'm not saying that he is the only major offender, I'm just saying that he has been one of the 5 most harmful personalities of this century (at least when it comes to classical music).
Don't downplay the influence that his music had on the academic composers of this century.
>I've already studied his career, and I can assure you that he stopped making those statements in the '80s and started regretting them in the '90s. I know.
Serialism had an iron grip in academia, true, but I think it would've happened with or without him. If you don't have Boulez, you have Stockhausen, or Maderna, or Berio, or Carter, and so on. I think serialism was more of an unfortunate logical progression from the early 20th century, something which was unavoidable.
I don't know, I just simply cannot hold a grudge against Boulez even if I don't like serialism. There are too many factors that went into that machine in the mid-20th century.
Jaxon Price
before someone asks what the most comfy string quartet is, the answer is borodin 2
Oliver Wright
Can you guys help me? I'm trying to find the original source of this excerpt that starts at 1:41. I've no clue whatsoever, sounds like something from Giya Kancheli, but I couldn't find anything sounding similar to this in his body of work.
Exactly. If you don't have Boulez you have one of those 8-9 guys who managed to become famous. That's not a big number, and it is fair to put the blame on the famous composers who influenced that aggressively our academia.
If I can blame Lully for monopolyzing French music I can do the same with Boulez.
>even if I don't like serialism Don't put a continuum between Boulez and the second Vienna school. People like Schoenberg, Berg and Hindemith were arbitrary but not dismissive of other non-avant-garde forms, and their music was fairly free of gimmicks while still being masterfully crafted. The hell that Boulez unleashed on modern academia is a completely different game.
The fact that he was a great conductor, and the fact that he regretted his conduct makes me hate him even more.
Leo Kelly
It sounds like a loop made in FL studio.
Michael Martin
Hype pieces? I have the 2nd movement of Bethooven's 7th Symphony in mind right now.
Bach's Contrapunctus XI from the Art of Fugue (start with the piano version, once you're comfortable with what you're listening to, try the harpsichord and organ versions too)
These are good advices if user is 4 years old or if he is a 60 years old illiterate housewife
This is great
I'm p sure that only the Arabesque will enthrall that user
Michael Williams
Holst Planets Beethoven 5 Chopin's etudes
Jace Price
There are more retards out there than you expect.
Parker Fisher
>I'm p sure that only the Arabesque will enthrall that user Really? Out of those three I'd say the Liebestod is the most easy to get of them all, with it having a singer and all. Although I have to admit the recording is garbage, I just picked the first one from Youtube I saw since I've never looked for it there. The second part of Hungarian Rhapsody is pretty fun to listen to.
I'm just talking by experience. I've started listening to classical music in my early 20s because people always told me to listen to shit like Vivaldi's Four Seasons.
I'm pretty sure that what this user listend could appeal to virtually every Sup Forumstard on this site
>Brahms the manlet >Brahms a few days after Clara Schumann's funeral He was a douchebag
Isaiah Perez
We have accounts of him staying in his house, crying for days for Clara's death.
Don't doubt his love for Robert and Clara Schumann, we have enough letters of him to know that he considered them as family.
>tfw you won't ever become the best friend of the Schumanns >tfw your uncle Beethoven won't ever give you personal piano and composition lessons >tfw Haydn won't ever be your mentor and best friend >tfw your dad is not JS Bach
Levi Thomas
>Requiem is a meme Aw damn, it's a favourite of mine.
Cooper Richardson
Everything is a meme. You, me, even this post.
Jaxson Parker
Particularly Rex Tremendae. >RIBS!
Hunter Reed
retard
Chase James
meme music is still good though well, only the half of the req that mozart wrote is good anyway listen to his c minor mass
Cameron Brown
Classical music is mostly meritocratic, meme just means that it's music that musicians and composer appeciated for centuries. There's nothing wrong in loving the Requiem, in fact it's one of those few pieces of music that can be considered as a favourite without being controversial.
Joshua Martin
What's the best recording of Mozart's Requiem and why is it Gardiner's?
Do you have to be a genius to write something as complex and beautiful as the Beethoven's Missa Solemnis? I'm listening to it daily and it's turning me Christian. How does he do it?
Joshua Anderson
the whole recording is in the second mega link, it's my favorite
Jeremiah Bennett
>turning me Christian Only the love of God can do that, user.
William Ross
Beethoven channels the love of god on that one pretty well
Grayson Richardson
I'm pretty sure I'm hearing it in the Benedictus
Bentley Peterson
That chorus sounds like shit.
Jose Reed
Have you ever gotten any of your amateur works performed? Have you heard any other amateur works, and what did you think of them?
Adrian Bennett
>it's turning me Christian God didn't write it though. A man did. Be Christian if you want, but Missa Solemnis was a work by Man to glorify God - not the other way around.
Lucas Murphy
The instrumental chorale right before the violin solo is probably the most beautiful passage Beethoven ever wrote
Luis Howard
Reposting from last thread, can you guys recommend any more Byzantine composers? Cheers.
Ya lots of notes were played but I still prefer a daunting piece from Bach or a timeless melody from beehthoven
Joseph Flores
What about a timeless melody from Chopin?
youtube.com/watch?v=nbNhSWJkhnc >video not related -- I just love that mazurka, I'm referring to that Eb major piece that everyone knows or maybe the waltz in Ab
Jonathan Hernandez
holy fuck that was annoying, hopefully this pianist dies