Batman v Superman

Which version is better to watch? Normal or Ultimate/extended?

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Compared to the UE, if we could burn all copies of the theatrical version we should.

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Ultimate cut by a significant margin and this is coming from someone who enjoyed the theatrical

Alrighty, here we go lads!

Watched Theatrical cut like three times. Loved it
Just watched UE, it's made me think this is just a bad film.

Go to cliche for people defending this - Oh, the Africa stuff makes sooo much sense now, Lex's plans are much better explained.

Take that soggy blanket corner out of your mouths you fucking Story loving babbies. The cinematic cut was kino because the spoon feeding was pretty much gone, but there was still logic to the sequence overall.

One of the worst things in the original was the Africa / CIA mcguffin sttuff. Every time I've watched this I noticed the film flatlined for these scenes. Now there's more of it, and all it does is confirm what engaged viewers had filled in anyway.

UE is slow, it felt like a whole other film had elapsed before we even got to the fight. In the cinematic cut the fight arrives at the right time. Now it arrives after you've had a good nap.

Reappraisal required, lads.

Spoken like a true capefag. Can't go two seconds without action.

Go watch Hardcore Henry. It'll be right up your alley.

>Spoken like a true capefag. Can't go two seconds without action.

AYKM??? The film has too much action in both cuts. The best thing about BvS is the main characters. I will say Clark plays better in UE though.

But overall, the Africa / Lois stuff absolutely murdered the original cut, and it buries the new cut. They should have got Lois off screen, and focused on the main characters.

Why the fuck did we need Africa? The setup with the mass casualties from the last film was enough to cast all the aspersions at Superman, introduce the senate stuff, Lex could have tinkered around the edges of that and they would have had a two hour cut.

I don't blame Snyder, I think he's the best. But something went badly wrong here.

>UE is slow.
Fuck you, cuck! The UE is so smooth the movie felt faster than the theatrical even though it's 1/6th longer.

>Why the fuck did we need Africa? The setup with the mass casualties from the last film was enough to cast all the aspersions at Superman, introduce the senate stuff, Lex could have tinkered around the edges of that and they would have had a two hour cut.

This. I suspect Amy Adams' contract involved a guarantee of a certain amount of screen time. Otherwise, like you said, you could cut the entire Africa sub-non-plot and it would've been a much better movie.

>Fuck you, cuck! The UE is so smooth the movie felt faster than the theatrical even though it's 1/6th longer.

>yeah, this cut was so good it altered the laws of physics, thats how good it was!!!!

Kill yourself, or mature into actual life.

I don't see it.

This new cut flows extremely smoothly. It feels like a puzzle where the pieces are gradually put into place.

The events of MoS absolutely would not have been enough. He saved the world, and the vast majority of damage was caused by Zod, despite what desperate meme spewing cucks want to believe.

Snyder wisely chose not to validate the psychosis of said idiots.

>I suspect Amy Adams' contract involved a guarantee of a certain amount of screen time.

This is guaranteed precisely what happened. Snyder is great with women too, so this is doubly frustrating. You could have pushed her completely off screen and she wouldn't have minded, because Snyder inspires absolute devotion from his female casts - just look at the interviews for Sucker Punch and this is apparent.

Also frustrating because MoS ended with Lois knowing Clarke's alter ego, which was one of the nicest surprises with the film. They covered enough ground between them in MoS to be able to let the field lie fallow for a movie, but no - lawyers and shekels.

Fucking frustrating.

The best is the workprint which runs for 6 hours. A film like this needs to play for as long as possible in order to fully let go of all reality and let yourself become one with the kino.

your shitposting needs a workprint. 3/10

He just said it "felt" shorter. Haven't you ever had a long conversation that seemed short, or a really awkward 5 minute conversation that felt like it took half an hour?

>The events of MoS absolutely would not have been enough.

You're plain wrong.
Mass casualties in a major city would be absolutely enough for government to stick their oar in, it's fucking guaranteed they would. It would have played the libertarian cards better than Civil War (that pile of shit).

Even the 18 month time lapse would work - because slow government, due process. The fucking Scoot wheelchair arc was a direct consequence of it ffs. I would bet a dollar to a donut it was in the early drafts...

normal edition because it is shorter

>He just said it "felt" shorter. Haven't you ever had a long conversation that seemed short, or a really awkward 5 minute conversation that felt like it took half an hour?

Yes, I've also watched an extended cut of a film I love and found myself looking at my watch.

My most prized blu-ray is Once Upon A Time in America, I dont think this is anything to do with time. The Africa plot line is what killed this film. Search your feelings, you know it's fucking true.

Does the UE come with the theatrical cut as well?

>He just said it "felt" shorter. Haven't you ever had a long conversation that seemed short, or a really awkward 5 minute conversation that felt like it took half an hour?

The choppy nature of the original was actually a saving grace, because you kind of surrender to it early because the film is holding your interest.

The UE works against this in terrible ways. Perfect example - there's thirty minutes on Lex's clock, giving Gal Gadot time to leave a building, get a cab, fold a chemise in her apartment, check all her e-mail, get to the airport, go through customs, get on a plane. In the original cut that didn't bother me, in the extended cut it goes from being an irritating hang nail to a fucking travesty of plotting.

>Does the UE come with the theatrical cut as well?
Not sure, Blu Ray isnt out for another two weeks.

it's not like the amazon listing has this information or anything.

i dont even know why they're fighting

why are they fighting? superman wanted to ask for batmans help but kept punching him. what was batmans motivation in trying to murder superman again?

This is Sup Forums. Motherfuckers here don't talk to people face to face.

Just watched the ultimate edition (didn't see the normal) and it was pretty damn good, nowhere near as bad as the reviews made it seem.
Unless the normal is massively different to the ultimate the reviews seem unfair as fuck.

>This new cut flows extremely smoothly. It feels like a puzzle where the pieces are gradually put into place.

No, the original cut was a puzzle, that was part of it's charm. The UE leads us by the nose through nearly forty minutes of superfluous subplot because Amy Adam's lawyers / DC execs / Social Justice.

I like some of the new stuff, but the UE makes the film worse overall. Hell, it makes the original worse overall...

>Unless the normal is massively different to the ultimate the reviews seem unfair as fuck.

Theatrical cut is butchered as fuck, Kingdom of Heaven levels, character motivations and plot points completely kicked to the curb.

See that part where Superman helps a woman after the Senate bombing? GONE.

you wont want the theatrical cut
I've literally heard from several different people, critics and anons that if they could they would destroy the theatrical version because of how much better the UE is

Extended Africa Scene:
>Lex's mecenaries kill the terrorists but then burn their bodies to make it look like Superman did it
>CIA also has a strike team and a predator drone to back up the operative posing as the photographer
>Strike team wants to go in but they send the drone to just blow the whole village up
At this point Lois life is in danger as the General has the gun to her head.
>Superman intervenes the moment the drone shoots the missile and destroys the drone and missile midair
>CIA see the carnage and Lois is left alone there
Then we cut to African Queen Zimbabwe blaming Superman even though there was clearly a drone in the air and doesn't mention the Mercenaries executing the terrorists with their fucking unsilenced guns or the fact that Superman destroyed the drone and went directly into the house to kill the General then departed.

Superman actually does something heroic and this is the first we seen of him after Metropolis. He still shows his disregard for the government and everyone besides Lois. Like he still leaves her in this warzone after he kills the General.

We understand Lex's plans more but it's still a hackjob.

the UE is marginally better but you can't polish a turd

its still bat of murder vs man of murder and they've butchered the only good DC characters

>cheap sarcasm
Woman detected.

Both versions have the same issue -

1. Waynes parents - Kino
2. The Superman and Batman - Kino
3. Indian Ocean - Kino.
4. Africa - me not lady, me wimminz journalist investigator.
5. Lex and Senator - Kino.
6. Clarke and Lois - Kino.

rinse and repeat. Hell I'm amazed they had the nerve to let Supes rescue her even once, the sexist CIS/Het pig...

Neither
Watch something that actually has artistic merit

>kinoposter mad that the ultimate cut makes more sense so he can't claim to be an intellectual and superior to normies

You can't make this shit up

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>man of murder
Yeah that was pretty weird, especially in the warehouse scene. He's clearly immobilising some but just plain killing others.

the only good scene in the whole movie, in my opinion, was the batman beating on the thugs and saving martha. but at the same time i was questioning why he even bothers with hand to hand when he seems to have no problem murdering everyone with guns anyway?

Anyone got a mega for this?

did they explain why lois decided to throw the spear into the swimming pool

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why did this look so fake

So can some kind user give me a summary of the new shit included, is there the scene where we see lex talk to steppenwolf ect

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did you not watch the movie?

>is there the scene where we see lex talk to steppenwolf ect

Yes, then they show him get his head shaved

neither

Any good quality streams atm don't want these fucks taking any more of my money

people PAID to watch this

>projectile 1
>it landed on striker's island
>ITS UNINHABITED

top kek

well shit was hoping there would be more

>kinoposter mad that the ultimate cut makes more sense so he can't claim to be an intellectual and superior to normies

All the good stuff is still there, it's just weighed down by nonsense.

A bit like Winter Soldier - a good film, being weighed down by several other episodes of baby food?

This looks like a dry run to get the choreography movements right before they actually shoot the final version. Pretty bad desu senpai.

Mediocre coreography with no cuts an poor CGI dust

i didnt notice the ace chemicals sign when i saw it in theater

probably cause i was in a coma

Actually it's 1/5th longer you fucking braindead capefag. The original was 2:30, this adds 30 minutes. 30/2:30= 1/5

Fucking dumbass

what the fuck is wrong with zack snyder

every single punch has to end with a building falling down or a huge explosion

why would superman blow up an entire gas factory for no reason

>applying the manmade construct of time to the perceived flow of a film

top kek

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the ultimate edition did nothing to explain why lois randomly went back to get the spear

or put it there in the first place

because it could kill Superman,
yeah that still made no sense

Gospel of Snyder 1:1

Look and behold, for Kino is all around you. Alas, true Kino itself can be found once a lifetime by those who can truly see. For vast knowledge, far beyond those of simple minds can comprehend, is required to seek Kino. My works alone are not the only Kino to be found, it is found unnoticed by the public, it is found in the depths of what the weak mind call trash, it is found in the most secluded pieces of arts and cinema; ranging from grand films to simple animation. Look and wonder, for one's own Kino is to be found within oneself. Amen.

Gospel of Snyder - 1:13

When the sun set in the east, when the clouds turned black, and the world was devoid of art and beauty, of life and meaning; the people were given one last chance. Snyder died on Easter for the betterment of all of cinema. The public hated his works, the critics speared his masterpiece to the ground. Yet the believers stood strong and stout, for they knew, they knew the world would be reborn. And unto this land would come a new age of cinema, the dawn of Superkino. Hark, for he will return, and despite our hate, our sins, he will make Cinema Great Again. Amen.

Gospel of Snyder - 1:52

You dare doubted the works of Zack Snyder? Was it not he who led the revolution from shitty 2000 camp movies into manly movies like 300? Was he not he who changed how the world views superheros with Watchmen? Snyder is our lord of directing, his vision of the DC Cinematic Universe must be untainted by the likes of Disney quips. Do not doubt him for he will grace us with Kino of all genres. With Man of Steel and BvS, he did not simply introduce great superheroes to mankind. With those movies, mankind was introduced to Superkino. Do not fall for the sinful works of capeshit as created by Disney and Marvel, but bask in the glory that is capekino made by the lord and savior of cinema. Amen.

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i could buy she did that shit cause it harms supes (even if it was still dumb)

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IS that Seagal in the batsuit?

could we get any link for the torrent? every torrent I've tried downloading is nosebleed speed.

He's not switching the gun between hands like a hot potato so I don't think so.

Best Batman moment on film ever

Prove me wrong faggots

>no one is streaming the ultimate edition for us to all watch together

this is why this place is /r/movies now.

this board is for 18 and over

whyd bateman fire that guy

I honestly don't get all the love for this Batman. He had some neat action moments, but it was all pretty flat to me. It also just felt like a rehash of older Batman moments. I don't get why everyone is jizzing over this interpretation.

>superman finally face to face with batman
>can tell him about Luthor
>just pushes him back 20ft instead and flies him through a building

great directing, writing and acting all round. /s

Stole his dubs

i don't get the love for it either. it was a fine performance in a god awful movie. i guess because he looked really cool? as a character it was barely batman.

Why don't they just shoot him?

I use filehosting, user.

Anyone else feel like really bad for Batman?

He overcomes his retardation and physical limitations on his own and he's able to gracefully fly through life, but that whore Superman is always there to end up ruining his life.

Like is this the perfect display of how deeply uncompassionate, selfish and degenerate Supermen are?

Batman displays the best human qualities despite being limited and retarded, serves his country and becomes successful all while Superman is out doing hard drugs and being a whore.
He's so loyal and compassionate that he becomes a straight up fucking cuck. It's hard to feel sorry for a cuck, but you have to remember that he's literally retarded.

After ruining his life and regretting it he still shows no fucking empathy and takes advantage of him and his retardation yet again.
Like after all this shit he KNOWS he can still use him. He acknowledges that it's wrong but he's still too selfish to stop himself.
Like what type of awful person would repeatedly emotionally torture a retarded man for that long? Why couldn't he just finally fuck off?
And then the fucking cherry on the cake, "haha sorry Batman but you've got aids now. All you wanted was love but i was out being a whore and brought you aids even though you never deserved that."

Who here actually believes the kid was even Batman's? He was just dying of aids and wanted someone with a shit ton of money to take care of his kid who he irresponsibly had with a woman no longer in his life.

Even in death he continues to burden Batman. He leaves a retarded man his ex-girlfriends son to take care of independently.

Moral of the story: Supermen think they can get away with anything and retarded men enable it because they love pussy

Fuck the patriarchy bullshit, the world moves on superman's hips

let me correct myself, any link would do :P

>Batman acting like a shitty bad guy, getting all personal and petty instead of treating superman like a legitimate threat

This is stupid.

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When I do my rankings for worst flicks of the year do I put both or just BVS?

Hi Lex

Damn, that intro was dope. Just got up to the first real cut, where Bruce sees Supes fighting Lex in the air before it goes back.

This is very good so far. I'm starting to believe the hate is a product of critics/fanboys becoming hyper-habituated to the MCU formula.

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>browsing whilst watching

You're a complete fucking pleb on a whole different level than the kind that praise movies like this and MCU. Holy fuck Sup Forumseddit

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cause I'm pretty sure superman wanted him alive

that was in the theatrical cut too, user. but you tried, that is okay.

Superhero movies are fedora distilled to its purest form

I never said it wasn't, did you look at the post I was replying to?

any stream link's Sup Forums fellas

From what I saw when I skipped around at random moments, it added some small but helpful scenes after the court hearing explosion.

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>Then we cut to African Queen Zimbabwe blaming Superman even though there was clearly a drone in the air and doesn't mention the Mercenaries executing the terrorists with their fucking unsilenced guns or the fact that Superman destroyed the drone and went directly into the house to kill the General then departed.
she was paid off and blackmailed

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