David Lee Roth

David Lee Roth: Was he better as a solo artist, or when he was with the band Van Halen

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With Van Halen. Classic Van Halen up until 1984 are the shizznit.

I agree on both accounts

Roth was great on his own, but his voiced matched so perfectly with the guitar work of Eddie Van Halen that I'd have to say that his work with Van Halen was the best of his career.

Sammy Hagar just didn't have the same synergy with the band that Roth had, but despite this, post-1984 Van Halen produced some magnificent songs.

Dunno but he's one of my favorite interviewees, dude has so much wit and charisma. Anyone know of any contemporary musicians who are as entertaining or interesting to watch being interviewed?

No. And that's the worst part of it all. Roth was one of a kind and so was Eddie. Thanks to this new DIY numale bullshit they will just be remembered as another Aerosmith mysognistic dadrock group even though Van Halen is a genius who reinvented the guitar

Agreed. Plus he could wear shit like this and get rediculous amounts of pussy. Crazy, crazy mofo...

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He likes coke. It made the first few Van Halen albums that much better though.

Oh without Van Halen, he was a clown without a circus. Slightly related, Fair Warning would've been an absolute classic if they took more chances with the production.

Diamond fucking Dave...what a trip.

Half Jim Dandy half Al Jolson...dude had more wit and wisdom in 30 seconds than most f his contemporaries in their lifetimes.

His first full solo album with Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan was better than the fist Van Hagar album...

But his oil/water friction with Edward was lightening in a bottle...


The new stuff aint half bad...

"your IQ falling 14 points with her thunder thong around your neck"

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holy fuck this is great

fucking love DLR. Of course he was better with Van Halen though, that was his prime

>The new stuff aint half bad...

Have to agree. I was fully expected it suck and its pretty fucking good in spots- EVH hasnt lost a step even if DLR's voice has...and best bass playing of any VH album:

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check this- you can make your own DLR songs

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thats fucking hilarious.

boseeboseebop-diddtybop.

CLassic VH is one of the greatest American rock bands...

tfw- he flies off the drum riser...

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this is awesome

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RIDING HIGH ON MONDAY, SHOT DOWN IN MAY

hes just a gigolo.

Van Halen were always a little too college frat boy rock for my taste.

how is this frat boy rock?
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LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE HEARRRR TONIGHT...i say..

>new stuff

Funny way to say demos from 1977 they padded out and claimed as a "new" album.

of the 13 songs on the album 7 were brand new, never heard before songs...

this was no '77 demo...but this is classic VH...classic Diamond Dave

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My favorite version of Hot For Teacher by Van Halen at the moment..........

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Van Halen [Warner Bros., 1978]

For some reason Warners wants us to know that this is the biggest bar band in the San Fernando Valley. This doesn't mean much--all new bands are bar bands, unless they're Boston. The term becomes honorific when the music belongs in a bar. This music belongs on an aircraft carrier. C

Van Halen II [Warner Bros., 1979]

Never let it be said that popular styles don't evolve--in the wake of Kiss and Boston, this is heavy metal that's pure, fast, and clean. No mythopoeia, no bombast, and even the guitar features are defined as just that. So how come formalists don't love the shit out of these guys? Not because they're into dominating women, I'm sure. C+

Women and Children First [Warner Bros., 1980]

Eddie VH's quicksilver whomp earns the Hendrix comparisons, and he's no clone--he's faster, colder, more structural. David Lee Roth adds a wild-ass sophistication to the usual macho--no mortal arena singer would even think of the goofy country blues takeoff that provides the title. But the message of the music isn't the exuberance of untrammeled skill, it's the arrogance of unchallenged mastery. Without being pompous about it, which is a plus, these guys show as little feeling for their zonked, hopelessly adoring fans as Queen. They're kings of the hill and we're not. B

Fair Warning [Warner Bros., 1981]

Pretty impressive show-off stuff--not just Eddie's latest sound effects, but a few good jokes along with the mean ones and a rhythm section that can handle punk speed emotionally and technically. At times Eddie could even be said to play an expressive--lyrical?--role. Of course, what he's expressing is hard to say. Technocracy putting a patina on cynicism, a critic might say. B-

Diver Down [Warner Bros., 1982]

Less impressive, if only because hangloose covers like "Big Bad Bill" and "Happy Trails" are for more attractive bands. More attractive, if only because the Ray Davies and Roy Orbison covers are so carefully conceived. Attractive sexist original, unatttractive (hence unimpressive) sexist original, guitar as cathedral organ. And so it goes. B-

1984 [Warner Bros., 1984]

Side one is pure up, and not only that, it sticks to the ears: their pop move avoids fluff because they're heavy and schlock because they're built for speed, finally creating an all-purpose mise-en-scene for Brother Eddie's hair-raising, stomach-churning chops. Side two is consolation for their loyal fans--a little sexism, a lot of pyrotechnics, and a standard HM bass attack on something called "House of Pain." B+

Diver Down scored higher than I and II
Holy fuck Scaruffi is a hack.

never thought I would see a David Lee Roth thread on /mu.

"The reason critics love Elvis Costello is because they all look just like him."

There's been some VH threads on Sup Forums before. Not a lot, but some.

>This music belongs on an aircraft carrier.

That sounds like a compliment to me.

He was far better in Van Halen. His solo stuff was just an attempt to continue what he was doing in Van Halen. I wish I enjoyed it more, I mean he got fucking Steve Vai in his band so you would think they could have come up with some good stuff. Sadly the magic on VH was lost even though Eat Em and Smile clearly tried it's best.

I've only heard 5150 by Van Hagar and while I enjoy some of the songs it suffers in a similar way. The difference is that they were trying to evolve their sound/move in a different direction.

You need to listen to For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. I'd never say Hagar was better than DLR, but Poundcake, Right Now, and Top Of The World are all classics

Van Halen got pretty badly mauled by music critics when they first came out because they were all fapping to New Wave and punk and they thought AOR metal was passe.

I guess these guys never stopped to think about the sizable Camaro-driving mullet demographic that comprised the primary audience for AOR metal.

5150 [Warner Bros., 1986]

Wonder how the guitar mavens who thought Eddie equaled Van Halen are going to like his fireworks displays and balls-to-the-wall hooks now that video star David Lee Roth has given way to one of the biggest schmucks in the known biz. No musician with something to say could stomach responding to Sammy Hagar's call, and this album proves it. C+

OU812 [Warner Bros., 1988]

Not that they give a shit, but trading Dave for Sammy sure wrecked their shot at Led Zep of the '80s--master guitarist, signature vocalist, underrated rhythm section. They wouldn't have made it anyway, of course. Eddie's obsessed with technique, Roth's contemptuous of technique, rhythm section's got enough technique and no klutz genius. But Sammy . . . like wow. If I can't claim the new boy owns them (property rights they protect), you can't deny he defines them. Not that they give a shit. C

For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge [Warner Bros., 1991] *bomb*

Van Hagar was just embarrassing. Radio rock that 40 year old businessmen listen to while working on the treadmill. Yeah I get that Eddie wanted to grow up a bit and he couldn't be 25 forever, still gay af.

Some musicians think growing up means writing something complex, challenging, deep, original, diverse etc.... Some think it means writing mellow ballads and love songs. EVH thougt the latter sadly.

>Some think it means writing mellow ballads and love songs. EVH thought the latter sadly.

Ditto Steven Tyler.

Aerosmith didn't release anything worthwhile after 1976. Rocks is great and Toys in the Attic is good.

From a 1980 interview with EVH:

"If Cheap Trick are the clowns of rock, then Kiss are the circus. We've gotten big because we're the only real band out now. We don't wear crazy costumes, we don't play punk. I haven't done anything resembling punk since I was in my garage. We write good songs. At least I think we do, anyway. The critics have called us every name under the sun--tired, boring, done to death, thud rock, heavy metal. Does any of our stuff sound like metal to you? Anyway, with success you inevitably get imitators. I guess they've all listened to our albums and figured out how my tricks like the ticking clock sound and runaround harmonics work, but I hate imitators. I loved Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, but I didn't play like them, I created my own style."

RHCP. They were only good from 1987 to 92. After that, it was all downhill.

"Eddie Van Halen is a good guitar player, you know, he's entitled to all of the adulation that he can acquire. That's great." - Frank Zappa

Noel Gallagher was right when he said rock stars lose it after 30.

>RHCP. They were only good from 1987 to 92.
Freaky Styley was released in '85 user.

CLASS DIS MISSED

VAn Halen was the first heave metal band to smile...

80's music sucks

Come on, Ian Gillan had been writing comedic, tongue-in-cheek metal songs since like 1970.

I guess Christgau kind of admired them for having a sense of humor, because he always values that highly in a band and that's why he just couldn't appreciate the likes of Metallica.

Yeah but hardly anyone in America knew about Deep Purple anyway. To 99% of Americans, they're just that Smoke on the Water band.

Too bad that Eddie was never again able to recreate that guitar tone he had on the first two albums. The tone he had on 1984 is way too clean and sterile.

The sound he got on Fair Warning is still on of the heaviest, brownest, meanest tones ever. Full of natural compression and marshall stacks near nuclear meltdown.

Dave and Eddie's relationship was always more professional than personal anyway. It did seem that Sammy Hagar was more of a friend to him than just a business partner as proven by those home movies from the late 80s of the two bicycling together.

Eddie was not very happy about Diver Down's four covers. He said that Warner made them do a lot of covers to increase the chance of radio play, but "I'd rather have a bad song I made myself than a good song that someone else wrote."

but he didnt smile...

that Meanstreet intro still sounds fucking otherworldly even today...

DOA is pretty good...we've all been in that situation when we were teenagers at least once.

VHII > Fair Warning > Women & Children First > VH > 1984 > Diver Down > For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge

F.U.C.K. is the only Van Hagar album worth hearing. Listening to OU812 and 5150 all the way through was almost torture.

They had a lot of good songs, usually the deep cuts rather than the singles. Some of those were pretty good too, except Dance The Night Away which I can do without.

Van Halen simultaneously created hair metal AND shred metal and yet was neither...

broken down and dirty...dressed rags...

Well ok that never happened to me, but the part about them sending the cops to drive you away. You've never been a teenager if that didn't happen to you at least once.

My cousin saw Van Halen during the 1984 tour. He said DLR at his peak was the standard by which you judged rock frontmen. The almost hypnotic power he wielded over audiences was amazing.