>All the CGI grandeur in the world can't help this Tarzan outrun its uncomfortable, white-savior overtones.
>Laden with a significant amount of historical and racial baggage, The Legend of Tarzan proves a dopey adventure film with unremarkable performances and some lousy VFX.
>"The Legend of Tarzan" is sequel, origin story and racially sensitive revisionist history lesson all in one. What it isn't is much fun for anyone who's seen Edgar Rice Burroughs' "ape man" in any of his previous incarnations.
So why are some reviewers going on about skin colour so much? And this great white savior shit?
This character was written decades ago
Charles Jenkins
Popular topic, pandering. Basically, it's hard to make a living as a writer or critic.
John Wood
because the good reviewers are all dead, and the new ones can't watch anything and rate it objectively.
Hell, even GoT reviews for the finale were mad that it wasn't "touching on modern day social issues" and was just "fun"
Colton Mitchell
They're mentally ill liberal retards, just they're the kind that write movie reviews.
James Kelly
>Great white savior
Kayden Cooper
wow all summer blockbusters are getting slaughtered these days
Michael Butler
>white Tarzan
Caleb Richardson
how did Warner Bros manage to rope up David Yates into this piece of shit? They were going to have him make The Stand after Deathly Hallows, but that never happened. Then they delayed this Tarzan movie for a year to dump it right before Fantastic Beasts. Dude's going to have a bizarre year, with both a guaranteed flop and a guaranteed hit.
Bentley Miller
>it's okay when GoT does it!
Andrew Jackson
I dont know whether its true or not but rumors are they took him off Tarzan early to start work on Fantastic Beasts
Must have known this was fucked
Isaiah Ortiz
>literally shilling a shitty disney cartoon. fucking mouseketeers.
Ethan Jackson
For all things branded racist, this scene really was fucking racist. Literal European goddess saving the filthy brown slaves. But it gets a pass because Dany is muh mother of dragons I suppose
Grayson Evans
>racially sensitive revisionist history
Bet they NEVER say anything like this when niggers are cast in medieval Europe
Noah Morris
>this scene really was fucking racist.
Go ahead and explain that one, user
Cooper Cruz
This is why we need to build a wall
Ayden Phillips
you know Black Knight is a comedy not a historical drama, right?
Michael Lee
Yeah.
Hunter Baker
>Go ahead and explain that one, user >Literal European goddess saving the filthy brown slaves
Camden Barnes
That's not explaining how it's racist at all.
Joseph Bell
>So why are some reviewers going on about skin colour so much? kek can't wait Hollywood destroying themselves by allowing lefties liberal into.
John Ramirez
hollow crown
Jaxon Reed
>uncomfortable, white-savior overtones Meanwhile on Pandora...
Brayden Young
>>Literal European goddess saving the filthy brown slaves
She isnt european, and most of them were the same race as she is: Caucasian.
Benjamin Russell
>Sup Forums trying to defend low RT scores by saying SJWs have invaded RT
Cameron Scott
It's okay because the white savior gives up his shameful whiteness and thus his disgusting white guilt
Cameron Torres
>Tarzan as celebrity
What did they mean by this?
Asher Thompson
I wasnt trying to defend the movie at all, I think it looks shit.
I am just wondering why so many reviewers go on about this character being white so much, especially when it seems to be majority white reviewers.
Brandon Kelly
It gets a pass because it's a girl and not a man
Cameron Bailey
In this Tarzan goes back to England to his manor, and everyone knows of his ability to control animals and being king of the jungle.
Hudson Gutierrez
You don't understand do you.. he abandons his white heritage to break free of the "mean old white ways"
Jacob Smith
You should ask them on Twitter or email them then post the results
Ryder Fisher
>BLOCKED
Charles Long
Still doesn't change the fact that he comes in and starts cucking the next-in-line-for-chief's betrothed.
Leo Baker
This mindset is a perfect illustration of the over-sensitive retards people are these days.
Michael Thompson
The books are hilarious. In the first one Tarzan actively hunts and kills black people and is eventually revered by the natives as a white god. In later books he eventually becomes chief of the black people there and then a plantation owner.
Liam Bell
>I am just wondering why so many reviewers go on about this character being white so much You know why...
Jaxson Foster
If it was a black Tarzan wouldn't it be more offensive?I can't understand how the libtard mind works
Asher Sullivan
God, i fuckin hate white people.
Jack Green
Who goes into a theater and throws a bitch fit about white people?
Bentley Gutierrez
Let's change the role up a bit and say Tarzan is now black.
So portraying a black man as a man-ape is less racist? I'm sure it would go over REALLY well with libtards.
David Rodriguez
the solution is not making Tarzan at all, it gets people mad and flops hard
William Phillips
Kind of funny, The John Carter books have anti-racist sentiment sprinkled throughout, although maybe Burroughs didn't consider Tarzan racist.
Angel Foster
Is John Carter books worth getting into?
Ethan Rogers
It wasn't intentionally racist, but the imagery, out of context, looks like a bunch of fucking cleaning ladies and the guys who deliver my pizza grovelling before a single, very pale, woman. It's easy for some to interpret this imagery as implying her worth alone is greater than the sum total of everyone else in frame.
I know I don't have to spell it out for you, but I thought this would be a good example of how Sup Forums only misconstrues messages to support the idea that film is corrupted by Jews and SJWs, because they want to be victims.
Jace Cooper
There is 3k comments on that article at IGN & most of them are ripping into the reviewer
A white dude "saving" black folk from other white folk isn't a "pro white movie" it's just another white guilt movie
Brad Pitt saves the black dude in 12 years a slave, is that a white savoir movie?
William Turner
Dem dumb libruls i tell ya hwat
John Russell
Its a pulpy adventure series, basically sword-and-sandal in space. I really enjoy them, but its definitely not for everyone.
Ayden Walker
>this British character in the 19th century isn't black >fucking white men REEEEEEEE
Brody Young
It was written during Victorian times. The irony is that the intellectuals back then thought they were so enlightened and empathetic towards other races when even the dumbest observer can see they were just being condescending. In the future this is how modern liberals will be seen.
James Garcia
>Given that the Tarzan story is severely outdated, credit must be given to the filmmaking team for attempting to rid the narrative of its problematic themes. Introducing Williams as a prominent secondary character helps, especially since Samuel L. Jackson has the verisimilitude in his performance to both be funny and taken seriously. Although his performance contributes much to the entertainment of the film, he is largely absent from the marketing, which is disappointing to say the least.
>Despite that, the white savior theme runs strong, and in this day and age, it’s a rather uncomfortable thing to watch and fully enjoy. There’s no question that Tarzan and Jane do their best to save the day and a community of Africans from lives of slavery, and we shouldn’t really judge a film in this way. Yet, the imagery from those scenes speak loudly in more ways than they intend. Even while trying to run away from the strong racist undertones of the original story, the white savior aspect is another troubling issue we’re presented with in this film.
Nathan Morris
>throwing chimp fits over a character with light pigment
Justin Allen
What are they on about Are they complaining because tarzan is white? Wasnt tarzans parents white? Are the reviewers equating the gorillas with brown people so the movie is racist? Whats the issue exactly
Luis Johnson
>"All the CGI grandeur in the world can't help this Tarzan outrun its uncomfortable, white-saviour overtones." >Game of Thrones is exactly this and has glowing reviews >fuck critics
Nathaniel Butler
bingo we have a winner
Jacob Hill
>The irony is that the intellectuals back then thought they were so enlightened and empathetic towards other races when even the dumbest observer can see they were just being condescending
Well, you say that with a modern liberal sense of "comfort". Truth is, savages existed, still exist and tip-toeing around trying to avoid being "condescending" isn't going to help anyone.
Levi Watson
>This character was written decades ago
They should really just retire Tarzan right now, his story doesn't jive with todays modern values
Jose Rogers
Its because in this film Tarzan has already left the Jungle years ago but he has to go back and be feral again to stop slavery or something.
Charles Richardson
i would have expected this shit to flop regardless of libshit reviewers, simply because i can't think of anyone who wants a darker, gritty tarzan remake
Juan Lewis
>but the imagery, out of context
Racism requires a context, retard.
Besides, it wouldn't be racist to imply that her worth is greater than everyone around her, only when that worth is explicitly linked to her race can you call it racist without being a mentally ill tumblrite.
Dylan Phillips
Whites (the British in particular) literally ended mainstream slavery worldwide and emancipated millions of blacks
David Bailey
>implying it wasn't King Wewuz, leader of the Wuzkang people and white people haven't just changed history to keep the black man down
Jaxson Perez
Everyone I know who saw that film thought that everything about Brad Pitts character was hilarious. >Can I produce your film? >Sure as long as I get star billing for showing up for five minutes and being the hero and moral compass. Near enough pulled the exact same shit in The Big Short too.
Benjamin Gray
Can you people at least admit there's a massive bias against all blockbuster that aren't made by Disney?
John Morales
Do I deserve a prize for not being a criminal too?
Jayden Parker
Oh wow, this scene was so beautiful..... I cried the first time I saw it.....
Zachary White
>white people making movies about white people means "white savior"
meaning while, bruce lee beats up a ton of white sailors CONSTANTLY and nobody bats an eye
Ethan Cox
It's like this: it isn't racist in the sense that black people are bad, it's racist in the sense that it posits that white people are awesome and rise to meet any challenge. There is a trope, common in a lot of adventure stories from this era, where a white child is orphaned in some way and raised by animals or friendly natives. The child grows up to not only thrive but become superior to all around him, including the "primitives" who raised him. In Tarzan's case, it is compounded by his noble lineage: Tarzan isn't only at home in the jungle, he can mingle in high society as Lord Greystoke. Burroughs emphasizes the old idea of "blood will tell," noble Anglo-Saxon blood being superior to all others and allowing the bearer to withstand and conquer any environment.
Liam Jenkins
The reviewers are crying about white people emancipating african slaves in a fictional story when it is actually what happened
Jordan Collins
It's more than "not being criminal", ending the slave trade required white people (particularly those ghastly old and male ones) to first of all campaign for legislation to make it illegal and secondly to enforce the laws.
Aaron Anderson
Not much has changed in the real world.
Brody Stewart
Yeah, I never said it was racist. I was just explaining why the other guy probably thought it was because you're so fucking dense, apparently, you need others to draw basic conclusions for you.
Dominic Lee
What I find amusing about this usthe film actually seemed to be trying to pander to SJWs in the trailer. That line between Jane and Waltz >Waltz: I want you to scream >Jane: Like a damsel? Just sounds weird. I don't know what it'd be like in the movie but it looked like the kinda thing Prince of Persia did where trying to have their cake and eat it to they had the stronk independent womyn character kicking ass showing she don't need no man one moment then having her be fucking useless the next.
But yeah idk it just seemed like another Joss Whedon/Avengers 2 situation where they were trying to appeal to SJWs then cuz they put a foot out of line they get smashed
Gabriel Perez
If I rape your mom and then campaing against rape do I deserve a prize?
Nathaniel Allen
Other white people.
>Problematic There's that word again.
Jackson Ramirez
>we shouldn't judge the movie from those scenes >but let's judge the movie from these scenes.
Fuck a doodle doo.
Tyler Cooper
She's right though.
Michael Green
No, but luckily the two situations aren't at all equivocal.
Blake Allen
No but but if someone was keeping you mom as a slave and a specific group outlawed slavery worldwide and used their position as world leaders to enforce that ban don't get mad when people make movies about similar shit
Thomas Wright
These are the people who got the general critics score of Neighbors 2 up so analysts were surprised that actual audiences thought it was shit and it underperformed.
Same people who will give FemBusters a high average review score.
Samuel Cook
holy fuck you're dumb
Leo Butler
Do we really need to glorify the white man from ending slavery AFTER benefitting from it?
Nolan Rivera
What's the problem? It's historically accurafe.
Jacob Edwards
>It's an "Anti-racists" get it wrong again
These virtue signalling SJWs really need to shut the fuck up. The name Tarzan literally means white/fair skin in the ape language used in the books.
Jesus fucking Christ, talk about 21 year old liberal arts degree kids not knowing what they are talking about as usual. How embarrassing.
Aaron Reed
Yes. We could have kept it into perpetuity.
Carson Miller
10/10 totally got me, familia
Eli Morales
Do we really need to keep sympathising with black slaves after their own people sold them in the first place?
Andrew Hernandez
The complaints arent that Tarzan is white, its that the plot is "white man is the only one who can stop the genocide in the Congo". Christoph Waltz's villain is based on the real Leon Rom who was King Leopold's representative in the colony. Its insensitive as fuck and way too serious of a topic for the source material
Gavin Myers
Do we really need to mourn the black man's struggle during slavery AFTER benefitting from it ending due to no longer living in an African shithole?
John Ortiz
Like it or not nigger they were the ones who ended slavery.
It wasn't some heroic slave uprising by proud downtrodden blacks against le ebil whitey it was a noble action taken by those who had no reason to do it other than for the good of mankind.
Slavery was far more prevalent in Africa and the middle east than it was in Europe or the Americas despite whatever shit kumba kinte made up propaganda you've grown up with has tricked you into believing
Jason Allen
Well the combined "effort" of the black man sure as hell didn't stop it.
Jaxson Sanders
All hollywood movies are about white male saviors thats why white people think they are something. When in fact they are the lowest ebb in creation.
Jeremiah Brooks
It's okay because it came out before these kids went to college
James Sullivan
Can we really trust reviews after they shit on BvS? This movie might be good..
Oliver Wood
Jesus, you literally CANNOT make a summer blockbuster nowadays unless you're Disney, can you? People just innately hate your work because Disney has such a stranglehold on absent-minded quips and boring action.
Benjamin Jenkins
(((Disney))) owns all the reviewers
Wyatt Richardson
I haven't mentioned black people now, so stop right there Oh, I guess that the ones who were sold didn't suffer after all, right? That's the same argument that Americunts use >We spread democracy No, you don't, you spread whatever ideology better serves your economical interests Slavery was mainly ended because it was not profittable anymore
Sebastian Parker
The premise is: throw an English aristocrat into the jungle as an infant and he'll grow into a physical paragon and command the allegiance of all the animals (unlike all those underachieving darkies who've been living there for thousands of years). If you don't see the racism inherent in that construct, you're looking the other way so hard you're likely to pull a muscle.
I'm glad this movie is getting shit on.
Joshua Wright
Are they trying to compare Gorillas to black people or are they saying that only black people are allowed to be in stories that takes place in Africa?
Gabriel Barnes
Talk about someone who hasn't end seen the film and doesn't understand the problems with IT.
Jace Ramirez
It'll swing back again anytime now. The brexit definetly was a signal that people are getting tired of progressive bullshit. Trump too.
Soon people will turn towards the opposite side. Things like these come and go with the years.