Loli lovers are pedophiles. Prove me wrong

Loli lovers are pedophiles. Prove me wrong.

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Agreed.

I'm trying to write an article on the subject but I want some pedos to defend themselves.

COME ON PEDOS.

u right tho

help i need pedos here.

lolicon - The sexual attraction to young girls An individual fixated on young, generally prepubescent, girls.Erotic or suggestive art depicting prepubescent females.

Pedophilia - sexual feelings directed toward children.

You're not wrong OP

So why is anime child porn legal?

you're not wrong, the thing is most are nonviolent and loli porn is drawn and so isn't creating demand for content that necessitates harm to children so... where's the problem here again?

checked, also it's legal because no one gets (directly?) hurt through the creation distribution or consumption of the porn

muh morals

bump for pedo

Because it's not illegal to be a pedophile, it's illegal to own childporn or have sexual relations with a minor.

Childporn is usually defined as an image/video depicting a person who seems to be underage in a sexual way, so there are cases of people who have been charged with owning CP, where the image actually wasn't an underage person, they just looked that way. Drawn stuff is more of a grey area, even in the USA, I think some states have something against it, other countries such as South Korea have pornography outlawed.

If that's the case, then why is porn where the little kid masturbating alone on camera, or something similar, also illegal? Nobody is getting hurt.

interesting

Well a number of problems come up with a situation like this, there is whether or not he knows he's being recorded, privacy is (or at least should be) a basic human right. And even he if it's purely consensual does he/she understand the implication and the possible effect this might have on them in the future. Theoretically speaking there can be an argument made for even a case with sex with a child where technically no harm is done but it's way too damn hard to tell so it's just best to just not allow this kind of stuff IMO.

>for even a case with sex with a child
I don't think that could be made legal because of the 'no sexual relations with minors' law.

I was thinking more of a situation where the kid was voluntarily on one of those cam sites. The very worst case thing that could happen is they don't get paid or it spreads around and everyone knows what they look like, something that can happen to any pornstar that is recorded. I think it would be bad if it were legal because these kids could be (and maybe some already are) pressured into streaming for money by parents and there really wouldn't be a way to prove it either way.

Although not all adults are mature enough to make decisions like this, most are at that point.

Because they are being exploited numb nuts.

Though I expect nothing less from a shut in who jerks it to cp all day. Not your fault your a complete retard.

How are they being exploited if they're doing it of their own free will?

Well yeah I'm saying none of it can be made legal, at least not in the current state of things. Here's the problem with your statement though. If it spreads around that could be devastating for that child's future, it was over before it even began and there's enough exploitation of children as is even without exploiting them for money. Just look at third world nations with internet access, it's awful. And i'm saying all this as a pedophile advocate. It would be nice that they get the help and recognition they need but not at the expense of the innocent.

I understand that this is very weird because even some adults are dumb as shit but these kids aren't adults and its very dubious as to whether or not they understand what they're doing and it's implications for their future because they're children, so a child's will is sorta "free will" with an asterisk.

What about emancipated minors? I think that in the US the lower age limit is 13 for that to be possible.

Yeah, I don't think it's a good idea to have that legal.

Would an emancipated minor get in trouble, if caught, for streaming of their own free will?

Here's a funny thought too, if you took images of yourself in a sexual way while underage, that's CP. Would they fine you if you had CP only of yourself? You haven't harmed anyone.

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>age limit is 13
Just looked. In the US it's actually variable, granted by court order for when it would be in the child's best interest and usually only when they are financially able to take care of themselves or there's abuse in the household.

I'm guessing most emancipated minors are 16 or older because that's the minimum legal working age. Anything lower and they probably have some non-standard job, such as something on the Internet where age doesn't matter or money saved up.

Possibly? It's a weird after thought. The thing is they are still underage and no politician in their right mind would push for something like this in the present day political climate. In the US we have to wait for all of these fucking retards to outgrow their dumbass puritan standards for any meaningful progress in freeing the mature youth, fairly deal with ACTUAL predators, and dismiss cases where informed consent is present.
Minors who have taken photos of them self and sent them to similarly underage SOs have gotten convicted, albeit with very minimal sentences, before on both sides (for distributing and possesing cp). This is complete bullshit IMO.

Oh I doubt I'll see this in my lifetime. Not that I'm a pedo, but the laws surrounding conviction are too loose to be trusted. Politicians can "find CP on a computer" to discredit opponents, ect. The real crime is that they can sentence people for stuff that isn't actually CP. A no-tolerance policy is a really bad way to deal with actual problems.

the van is waiting for you pedo user we gt all warmed up for you >:3

I think they've already hit on it, but loli is used by pedophiles. Being a pedophile is not a crime and the vast majority of pedophiles do not want to commit crimes against children. The usage of animated images bypasses sexually objectifying an actual young human. I honestly think loli should be embraced everywhere for providing such an alternative, and also wish loli was more appealing to myself.

>why is porn where the little kid masturbating alone on camera, or something similar, also illegal? Nobody is getting hurt.
That is a good question, one that many wrestle with. I know there are cases where such performances come about from coercion through catfishing and blackmail; that is not good really. But quite often the performer does not have any problems later and many I've heard from do not feel shame over their actions. I've seen plenty of girls (mostly teens) expose themselves on live broadcasts to random people because they simply want to, they like feeling sexually desired and they're doing so in the safety of their own room alone. It's one of those things that is interesting to discuss.

> Implying loli lovers are interested in actual human contact.

Op, u are wrong, as u can now see.

>and they're doing so in the safety of their own room
until they get doxed.
and have nudes posted to their entire family.
and their entire school.
and end up having to drink bleach to end the constant bullying.

Name a case where this happened?

This is the single largest problem about this entire conversation imo. Even assuming these people are mentally ill THEY'RE FUCKING MENTALLY ILL its a sickness and needs to be treated. if this isnt a sickness then you are punishing innocent people. the entire system is 100% fucked in this area

>being this new
amanda.
todd.

because anime loli does not resemble real children.

Also another of many reasons why OP is wrong but wont reply
cum on OP, u dont reply u lost

That is true. It's rare that it gets very bad. There are a few incidents that led to suicide though. I hate people who develop obsessions and cyberbully or outright try to ruin people. That's one thing that bothered me when I lurked Younow, the fact that some people tried to manipulate girls like that; that and catfishing, actually having the girl in love with a total fake. It bothers me, but, to be honest, it's really a tangential problem because you have bad people who ruin things for everyone. The act itself had no immediate ill consequence, yet some sick bastard created the consequences.

Couldn't the same thing happen with someone who is legally an adult?

Does being into noncon make you a violent rapist with a torture dungeon?

Loli basically only exists in a fantasy world. There will never be a 12 year old girl who falls in love with a 25 year old dude, but the fantasy gets some dudes off.

If they can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, great. If they try to make those dreams come true, then the same thing would happen to them as if the noncon fetishists try to make theirs come true.

>needs to be treated

>implying treatment exists for such a thing
>inb4 bullet to the head

Loli fans are not pedophiles. Most pedophiles are parents abusing their kids.
loli is hentai, and ecchi.
calling loli lovers pedophiles, is like as illegitamate as gays not being allowed to be Scouts.

well, this is wrong.
watching porn is fundamentally different to actual sexual intercourse. kind of like people playing shooting games aren't psychotic murderers. and that people who like incest don't fuck their parents. dam OP your statement is so dumb I don't even know what else to say except you're wrong.

Emancipation doesn't make spreading their noods legal.

Case in point, most states, the age of consent is 16, but it is still illegal to spread sexually explicit material (even self produced) if the participants are under 18.

thank u this is a great explanation, and puts into words how OP is simply wrong.

>Most pedophiles are parents abusing their kids.
Goddamn am I ever glad this is 100% false.

Nigga, you watch porn that creates arousal within you. If it is imagery of children, real or animated, that arouses you, then you are a pedophile. Being a pedophile is defined by attraction, not by sexually acting out with another human.

>Emancipation doesn't make spreading their noods legal.
Sure, but you can make the moral argument that they're not being pressured by their parents because presumably they're living away from them. Since before the moral argument was that they're always being exploited to make CP, this is a thought experiment furthest from any exploitation.

Its 100% tru u fool.
Most cases of pedophilia takes place in the family, not some random stranger.
Jeez wake up and smell it.

If you would replace "pedophilia" with "molestation" in this post, it would be accurate. Wrongfully interchanging those two words irritates me a bit.

I personally go into loli threads to find the handful of post pubescent petite girls in them because I like petite women. The very clearly pre pubescent stuff is pretty disturbing to me, but I'm not sure how I would judge others for viewing it. Psychologically complicated stuff

It is already accurate, sexual contact with your little girl is pedophilia.

Which take place mostly and predominantly at ones house by ones relative, and generally its the parents.

>pedophilia
>[.ped-uh-fil-ee-uh]
>noun, Psychiatry.
>1. sexual desire in an adult for a child.

You can desire a child all you want legally until you do something such as molest them or expose yourself to them.

I can't figure out if you're type who can't accept being labeled a pedophile due to society's overall view of the term (which is the manner in which you are using the term). It is either that or you're the button pusher who knows there's no better way to trigger a pedophile than to equate all pedophiles to child molesters.

Nigga, you shoot people that creates fun within you. If it is shooting of people, real or animated, that delights you, then you are a psychopathic murderer. Being a psychopathic murder is defined by the urge to kill, not by acting it out with another human.

Yes. but im mainly hebe but i do enjoy some good loli.

Uh, no. Murder is very much defined by action, not thought.

Murder is, being a murderer and a psychopath is a mindset though. Criminal scum.

Nigga...

>being a murderer is a mindset
Ebin :DDD

>Loli lovers are pedophiles. Prove me wrong.
i'm a pedo, and i generally hate how loli is drawn.
over-exaggeration of face and body features, unlikely depiction of body fluids, and george lucas-tier dialogue.
it's down-right depressing that no one caters to the true cunny connoisseur.

I have beaten my dick to countless fetishes I would never act upon in real life. Loli is merely one of them.

Because no one under the age of 18 legally has free will.

That's because it ain't aimed at actual pedophiles, but lowlife animefags.
There are some more realistic drawing of toddlers and little children, but seriously dude, that shit gross.

all child molesters are pedos.

All loli fans are not pedos.

These are facts.
Loli is fantasy, art, hentai, not real...etc

It is in no way pedo.

Literally only in the US and some African countries.

Emancipated minors.

Also I couldn't find any legal definitions that supported your claim, just a bunch of info about last will and testaments.

thank u! This is it. loli is loli. Its a fetish, not a sickness like Pedophilia.

Wrong, all child molesters are not pedos, pedos are people who are attracted to those who are prepubescent. You do stuff to people who have already gone through puberty and it still be illegal because they are under the age of consent

You're not a pedophile until you've literally molested a child

Well because all pedos don't like it doesn't mean that the majority of loli users aren't pedos who don't want to see real kids used. I personally don't care for loli either, though I wish I did.

>all child molesters are pedos.
False. Not all molesters have attraction to children. Some are just indiscriminate rapists going after an easy target.

>All loli fans are not pedos.
This is the first thing I may agree with. Many are pedos and know it, some are pedos and deny it. A small few may not be actual pedos.

Here we go again...I think I will just die now.

And thank U for that sweet Illya!

>Here we go again...I think I will just die now.
not an argument

>You are not gay until you actually fucked a man.
Dude, I totally agree that loli is not pedophilia, but your argumentation is just weak.

no pedos are people who are sexually attracted to those who are prepubescent.
you can be a pedo and not be a molester,
same as you can be Hetero and not be a rapist.

Why rehash half the thread? Why even try to differentiate meaningful comments from trash? Why even live any longer?

>the true cunny connoisseur.

this is a misconception.

All child Molester are indead pedos, as they have committed an act of pedophilia.

Its about actions not attractions.

do they have to be awake?

Pedophilia is a crime in the same way a murder is.
You're not a murderer until you've actually killed someone.
Pedophilia isn't a sexual orientation like being a faggot is because age of consent is just an arbitrary number that varies wildly from country to country

>cunny
I forgot to mention as a side note that I hate that fucking word. I don't know why, it just makes my stomach sick.

Why do I keep bashing my face into this brick wall?

>Pedophilia is a crime in the same way a murder is.
Oh I forgot that it's also a legal term.

>Pedophilia isn't a sexual orientation like being a faggot
Is is though. And it has literally nothing to do with age of consent.

sigh.
first of all, grouping animated and not animated media is dumb. saying that pedophilia isn't 'based on action' but on what arouses you is just a childish attempt at winning the argument, because we all know we're not talking about pedophiles that enjoy loli porn, but about the sexual predators that actually want/need/try to sex irl girls. that's why the term lolicon is used in former situation.
and about arousal... just read up what arousal actually it's before you spout nonsense. I know we're on Sup Forums, but being a retard isn't required at all times.

Except that you can't get charged with pedophilia as long as you're fucking over the age of consent

exactly. This is accurate, take note OP

So there is no homosexuality anymore because it now legal?
Laws don't define pedophilia because it's a preference, not an act.

I molest a 13yo that already has developed breast and has gotten her period. that make me a child molester, but not a pedophile. I would be considered an ephebophile.
still a child molester but not a pedo.

I don't think anyone denies this. Is simply an outlet for that lust/desire that doesn't harm anyone. Though you could argue that it enables those feelings, excites them to commit actual crimes, yadda yadda.

It's a fetish just like homosexuality

OP is right in this case but Loli Lovers, unlike Pedos, want to fuck fictional young girls.

Fetish, sexual preference, sodomy. All the same.

>charged with pedophilia

thanks, Satan

Actually u have earned the title of Pedo. Its ok but it is a fact u committed an act of pedophilia.

> Its about actions not attractions

See Satan gets it
> Its about actions not attractions

>a childish attempt at winning the argument
That's not very nice.

>because we all know we're not talking about pedophiles that enjoy loli porn, but about the sexual predators that actually want/need/try to sex irl girls.
How often are you in these threads? Did you read this one? Society in general and antis/trolls (whoever gets in these threads) do not differentiate the two groups you mentioned and misuse the word pedophile.

>just read up what arousal actually it's before you spout nonsense
Sorry if I didn't read a book on arousal before that quick comment, but I watch porn that makes me erect/ready for sexual pleasure. Is that arousal, or is it something else? I'll use other terminology if appropriate in the future.

the TRUE problem here is Radical Feminism. Most people don't know what they are talking about so they make Blanket statements. During the last decade Radical Feminists have been using the word "Pedo" for everyone who is attracted to anyone who is younger then them.
"Did you know Bob in accounting started dating the 19yo intern, what a pedo." says the jealous 30something.

I like lolis but I'm disgusted by actual children.

no it's not actions, it is attractions

>attractions
>attr - actions
Defeated by your own hand!

this is one of the accurate post in this thread.

> its about actions not attractions
when it comes to pedos

Huh, it that was samefaggotry, well played.

*if

>charged with pedophilia
You cannot be charged with pedophilia. Pedophilia isn't an act. You get charged with child molestation or rape for example.