2 Simple Questions:

2 Simple Questions:

1. Why did Red States fail across the board?

2. Why is the largest group on welfare in America whites in Red States (and not blue)?

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Red states are working class, Blue states have the huge ass businesses that offset the results and have the money and power to fuck everyone that isn't them.

>blue states subsidize corn and oil
>bitch when red states call them out for their writhing masses of welfare queens
>"But we give you billions of dollars in corn and oil subs! Its exactly the same as our negros being fed like a bear at yellowstone!"

Please, end our subsidies. We will be fine. We end your welfare, your Negros starve.

again, the largest group on welfare in America are whites in red states.

also, the coasts import or grow most of our food. we pay you billions in subsidies to not grow crops (because you idiots will cause another dust bowl).

>live in kansas
>45k a year
>2 story 3ksq/ft house
>15 acres of land
>living comfortable
>"poor"

>live in cali
>120k a year
>600sq/ft studio
>rent
>Barely able to pay for wholefoods
>"rich"


Yea those poor red fuckers dont know what they are missing

U.S. Department of Agriculture data from 2013, which administers welfare, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are Black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

Whites are 63.7 of the population
Blacks are 12.2


Theres more car crashes every year in America than space rocket explosions but being an astronaut is still a more dangerous occupation than driving. Do you know what the word "rate" means? Or do you only deal in gross numbers.

don't welfare recipients make more than $45k per year?

the average home on the coast here costs $1.5 million. rent here on average is about $1500-$2000 per month.

what kind of trash would rather live in Kansas (yes I've seen pictures of your god-forsaken hellhole)? the kind of trash that lacks intellectual capacity. the kind of trash that would vote for Donald Trump.

we're dealing in gross numbers here son.

the largest group on welfare in America are whites in RED STATES -- NOT blue states.

do you understand the point I'm trying to make? it's hard to communicate with red state filth.

Yea, I hear your point and Im showing you and the world why its a moot point.

Whites have a lower RATE of being on welfare.

If I had 100 whites and 100 blacks, more blacks would be filthy mooches than the whites.

Gross numbers are meaningless until you normalize them.

and remember these states are the most "business friendly" which is code for low wages

This is fake news.

This is 2008 data you dipshit.
Plus, if we counted the states by number or people on welfare, or percentage of total population on welfare, I bet blue states would be epicenters compared to red states.
In conclusion, this is an outdated map (by 8 years), OP is just a bitter cuck because he lost, and as always, OP is a fag.

The deplorables deserve to be poor and they deserve what's coming to them with the Orange Grifter as their overlord.

no. you're not grasping the point, because you're a trump-supporting baboon.

I'll put it in caps I guess.

WHY IS THE LARGEST GROUP ON WELFARE WHITES IN RED STATES -- AND NOT WHITES IN BLUE STATES?

read it slowly please my diabetic friend.

try and work with me here. dropping out and condemning higher learning has really depleted your intellectual quotient. sad.

Better question is why didn't Obama do anything to help those red states?

amen to that. trump's going to obliterate them. I'm going to enjoy it.

Jesus, are americans really this shit at Maths. Hey user, can you trade me 50 one dollar coins for these 100 one cent coins? Its a good deal for you because you wind up with more coins right!

BECAUSE THOSE WHITES ARE ON CORPORATE WELFARE VOTED INTO LAW BY BLUE STATES

ITS CALL FARM AND OIL SUBSIDIES

Obama's been giving you filth welfare. And he's been creating creating jobs for you red state trash.

Unemployment: 4.6%.

The jobs left under gw.

And now they're all going to leave under trump.

> b b b bbbb b b bb b b b b b bbb bb b b but Hillary!!!!
>bb b bb b b b bb b bb b b bbbbbbb b bbut Obamaaaaaa!!

The map is a piece of shit. These is nothing telling us what those rates are per state, nor racial demographic.
We're also given a dollar figure that isn't explained in any detail. And the definition of red and blue state is completely relative. (PA-Fag that is now in a red state according to 2016 map.)
We can't argue anything and get any meaning out of if until someone posts some numbers that we can actually make a case with.

Unemployement is slow but people not even looking for jobs are at an all time high

He faked the numbers.

holy shit you are autistic

>blaming corporate welfare on liberals

incredible. literally the only supporters of corporate welfare and tax cuts for corporations are republicans.

Because their representatives continually blocked him from doing so.

this map is severely out of date

Tax cuts? Republicans
Corporate welfare? Dems
Learn the difference.

you subsidize oil, corn, solar, water, everything, to fake the costs and make it seem like people can afford things they cant on the shit wages they get from globalism (promoted by liberals)

Oh. Obama "faked the numbers".

we subsidize corn because of how much it's used in food products and animal feed.

Well not him, the but Department of Labor, yes.

"If we stop counting people no longer looking for jobs and just living off our welfare, we can say the total number of unemployed is lower!"

the percentage of adult Americans working or actively looking for a job stands at 62.6 percent, the lowest level in nearly four decades.

Yes, we give red states billions.

We need to stop.

And we need to take whites in red states off of welfare.

If you filth won't work, then you should literally die.

Blue states are worth trillions, because we're hard-workers.

Yes, end all welfare in all states.

The red states will do just fine.

Oh. Now the Department of Labor "faked the numbers".


Repubilcans have excuses for everything. This is gold.

Yes. Or do you think having the lowest number of people participating in the job market means unemployment is low?

Please answer the question.

People who are successful and comfortable with themselves don't tend to be as bitter as poor failures.

red states would collapse in days without blue states. you're welfare queens. and you're certainly not smart enough to 'make it on your own', you're anti-science/anti-education/anti-intellectualism.

Ok, let us collapse. End all welfare please. Just do it or are you afraid of something?

I don't talk to conspiracy theorists who won't believe .gov statistics.

You've made up your own unemployment numbers. Go fuck yourself you alex jones-watching retard.

Those numbers are from the department of labor you idiot lol.

Heres the .gov website you fool
data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

They love to talk about their "low taxes" that they can only afford because of Federal money that comes from the tax revenue from blue states.

b-b-b-b-bbuuut I called you an alex jones watcher!

My moral superiority failed me!

How can the numbers prove Im wrong?!

HILLLARRRYYY YOU FAILLLED MEEEE!!!

AAAAAAA

REEEEEE

still

Federal tax rates are the same everywhere brah

I posted the 4.6%. you said "the department of labor and US govt made up those numbers, 'cause Alex Jones!"

make up your mind, you meth-addicted monkey

we're talking state taxes son. keep up or don't interject.

is correct.

So that URL shows that unemployment is "down" only because labor participation is down.

You move the "unemployed" from one column on the spreadsheet and make the numbers look good.
Great job DOL! Epic economic recovery

At least the Dow Jones is doing well.
I thought Dems hated wallstreet?

Im talking about the difference between the tax revenue from each state and the amount federal money each state gets.

I actually never said Alex Jones, I dont watch him or any of those stupid shows like ancient aliens.

Read

Liberal niggers on suicide watch in this thread

Numbers beating them the fuck out

you denied the 4.6%.

then went on to spew some breitbart and pro-trump retardation.

communicating with red state garbage is virtually impossible. I wish some of you would at least finish high school (you also have the highest dropout rates in America).

what's so bad about intellectualism? what's so bad about science? what's so bad about education?

sad.

Liberal Logic:
White man who gets federal subside for his job he doesnt want is just as bad as nigger who gets welfare for not even working

"then went on to spew some breitbart and pro-trump retardation."

Never mentioned either of those people

You making stuff up? Cognitive dissonance much?

I am denying that the actual unemployment rate is 4.6%, since it was artificaally lowered by moving people from unemployed to "not participating". What dont you understand about that.

Please dont mention fox news or some other right wing group I havent mentioned in my response.

Just answer the question.

Good Now you idiots will know how we felt over the past 8 years. Also I hope Trump and Putin come together and leave NATO in the dust.

Exactly so why don't red states learn and improve?

The last 8 years have been incredible economically.

What are you snowflake alt-right sjw's whining about now?

Are you reading the same thread youre posting in?

If a red state is under a Democratic government then we're not really practicing Republican style government, are we?

Dems are Wall Street.

And your republican conspiracy theories regarding unemployment are pathetic - but entertaining. tell us again about how Sandy Hook was fake, and that Clinton has a child-sex brothel in some pizza parlor.

Jesus that is how unemployment has always been measured. It keeps retired people from being counted and skewing figures, for example.
I agree it's not a great argument to use for the health of the economy but it's not a fucking Obama driven conspiracy you fuckwit.

pol

>1. Why did Red States fail across the board?
Look at which states are going bankrupt: Illinois, California, NY, Maine, Massachusetts, NJ, Maryland, Hawaii. Those are the worst. What do they have in common? They are blue, and very politically progressive.


2. Why is the largest group on welfare in America whites in Red States (and not blue)?
Corn. That's pretty much it. Past that, American cities hold the highest amount of welfare recipients. And those cities vote Democrat.

I'm not a Republican, or a Democrat. And my politics are generally liberal leaning. But it's absolutely false to imply that blue states and cities aren't the reason that our country is a welfare state.

I literally said "not obama the DOJ"

Obama is a term used like "The white house"

when someone says "The white house signed a law today" They dont mean that a building signed a fucking law you nignog.

Don't talk to the neo-conservative retards. Russia, Breitbart and Fox News have absolutely annihilated their fragile minds.

>blue states fuck red states
>red states suffer
>"THESE REPUBLICANS OPINIONS ARE WORTHLESS, LOOK HOW POORLY THEY ARE DOING"

fucking city scum

you said "he (Obama) faked the numbers"

>mfw you'll lie about that too, even though your own words are posted as evidence. because all conservatives lie.

Follow the blue line nignogs

>WHY IS THE LARGEST GROUP ON WELFARE WHITES IN RED STATES -- AND NOT WHITES IN BLUE STATES?
BECAUSE YOU ARE LUMPING TOGETHER TWO ARBITRARY METRICS, AND LOOKING AT UNIMPORTANT DATA, SUCH AS THE GROSS NUMBER INSTEAD OF THE RATE.

Please read

each state has its own laws. do you not understand how states' laws and states' rights work?

you're probably very young. but it's important to learn very basic civics.

BEAT THE FUCK OUT!

There are many farmers and workers there, they did usually do same jobs that many immigrants do for much less pay.

Why hasn't
George Bush
or Bill Clinton
Or Bush Sr
or Regan
or Carter
or Ford
or Nixon
The red states has been poor for way longer than obama has been president

Can a democrat please defend these numbers from the Department of Labor?

You do not understand how federal policies might have a little sway over what happens in the individual states? Maybe a little?

you're still not understanding the question. but people like you are why we have trump.

>Unemployment: 4.6%.
>current year
>not looking at U-6 unemployment
9.3%. And the jobs created in the last 8 years have been primarily part-time shit-tier jobs. Thanks Obama!

These people will never get a response because the democrats have no response past "BUT TRUMP!"

nope

state law trumps federal law

eg: the states that legalized marijuana (marijuana is illegal, federally)

you need to go to school (100% serious).

> "I never had to take statistics to get my art degree": The post

>show up after worst recession in history
>enact ridiculous policies
>natural economic cycle kicks in and recovery begins in spite of horrendous policies and off the charts spending
>"hey guys look how good i did"

> bb b b bb b b b b bbbb b b b bb bb b b b b but Hillaryyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

>b b b b b bbbb bb b bbb bb b b bb b b b bb bbb b b bbut Obamaaaaaaaaaaa!

you're geniuses. what can I say.

The irony of this post is palpable.

The marijuana thing is not true.

Its still illegal in those states. If a federal agent (DEA) decided to he could arrest them. Obama has told the DEA to stand down in those states.

Executive branch controls enforcement of laws (IE decided not to enforce emigration laws). They remain illegal but no one will arrest you for them. Make sense?

The amount of autistic shitlords in this thread is off the fucking charts

Theres no link to anything to the graph I can make a graph like this, it doesnt mean anything until theres a major organization behind it

Please respond to the questions in those posts.

So explain why anyone would give a flying fuck about who becomes president if states are essentially immune to federal mandates.

are you actually retarded, or did you just drop out of high school before you took civics?

I wouldnt expect a liberal to read.

Heres the links from earlier.
data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Explain

Republicans start recessions.

Democrats end them.

Economically we're always - always better under a Democrat President. Fact.

And modern recession? Started by republicans.

We'll it again under trump. He'll crash the economy. Democrats will recover it.

not on drug policy

states can not nullify federal law

please take your own advice.

if weed is legalized you can still be charged with a fexeral crime

>ND here

We didn't exactly "fail".... We just have a lot of Indians, and Indians suck off the government... Remove the Indians from the equation, and we'd spring up to a national average...

However, our state would still be pretty poor, mainly because wages are fucking bullshit here... $30k/yr is a pretty decent job, $40k is where most 2-yr degree jobs end up in about 10 years... Myself, I've yet to break $30k/yr...

what posts?

are you going to start blaming Hillary again, or are you going to try and stay ON TOPIC FOR ONCE?

someone flunked politics 101

KEK right...

because the liberals are the undereducated ones *wink*

:D

>demographically, look at who voted for trump. poor, uneducated whites in red states.

Ive never mentioned hillary.
That was someone else

please answer the questions in
Heres the links to the data for data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Let me know what else you need!

Love to hear a response from you.
Please note I didnt mention any republican or democrat at all. Just data.

I noticed you changed the topic.

I'm not the same user. But it seems like you're the one not understanding the point. In economics, rates are much more meaningful than gross amounts. In almost every case.

For instance, we can look at the total debt plus the total obligations of a state, versus their income, to judge the financial shape it is in. If we did so, as a gross total, California would be in the worst shape. Except that doesn't account for the enormous population of CA. If you split that debt among the citizens of CA (per capita debt & obligations vs revenue), you'll see that CA is still in shitty shape, but Illinois is far worse. And in any case, if you compare red states vs blue states in this manner (which is the only meaningful way in which to compare different states) you'll see that red states are generally in better shape.

These three graphs don't match up even taking into account that the first one is probably older.
Also, you said something about reading? Where on that picture/post would I have seen a link to it?

>recovery is debt that is literally higher than the planet's combined GDP

I feel saved, lord!

You will literally never get an answer. Youve backed them into a corner.