I'm a 25 year old KV.
Today my father told me that a prostitute would be the solution to my problems.
He says that seeing a prostitute a few times would be the best way to solve my inhibition, but I'm not so sure.
I'm not sure that paying a woman for sex is going to help me be more comfortable around women.
So, is there anyone here who lost their virginity in their 20s to a prostitute? Do you think it was a good choice?
I'm a 25 year old KV
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very bad choice. you will regret all your life. dont do it.
to solve your issue:
- dont be poor
- dress well
- be confortable with your self
- find a girl you like
- say hi to her
- talk to her and shit
- listen to her talk about shit
- repeat few times
you got a potential gf/wife.
Ha I want this t shirt
I think times are hard, girls are hella picky now.
Your best bet is to rape a bitch.
>very bad choice. you will regret all your life
why?
>dont be poor
I'm not
>dress well
already dressing decently, probably there's room for improvement
>be confortable with your self
meh, I hate myself
>find a girl you like
>say hi to her
no can do, can't approach, that said...
>talk to her and shit
>listen to her talk about shit
It actually happened a few times, when I was introduced to some girls. I could talk to them, but I can't escalate.
The first time is a once in a lifetime memory that you never forget....
dont give it to a fucking prostitude
also, a very high chance of catching STDs...
go gay
This guy has it.
I would say though that it is possible that the underlying significant issue that you're facing is not so much to do with insecurity, or not having had sex, but simply to be avoiding making decisions.
You know what you need to do to get a girlfriend. You know what you need to do to fuck a sex worker, to pick a girl up at the club.
I am projecting here, but if you're like me you can get indulgent with your insecurities because they're comfortable and familiar.
Decide what you actually want. Make it your goal. Write it down. What do you need to do to go from where you are now to your goal? Take one day at a time.
Take any moments when you were uncomfortable but went with it anyway as small victories.
Now take this is as a loving kiss on the forehead and pull your finger out matey!
Someone needs to pay for the girl friend experience for you.
From a decent escort agency, because the girls from the agencies need to get check ups to check for STDs
> It actually happened a few times, when I was introduced to some girls. I could talk to them, but I can't escalate.
Share some activity with her (movie, sports, whatever...).., during that, try to make her laugh... be funny... whem you have quality time together, you will both feel comforable with each others, things will be easier
>What do you need to do to go from where you are now to your goal?
I should not be as autistic as I am now. You see the problem, right?
I remember the last time it happened, about a year ago. I was at my cousin's house and there were some of her friends. I talked a bit (actually quite a lot) to this girl, we were pretty similar and we liked the same things. But I couldn't just take her and bring her somewhere else. Also, she lives in a very far city so I didn't even bother much more. Just my luck...
Take the writing down part, and the goal/dream part seriously. Spell it out, then you will actually know what you are working towards.
Beating yourself up with self deprecation is just indulgent in what is comfortable and what you are used to.
What is important to you? When you dream of your situation being everything that you want it to be that it's not now, what does a day in your life there look like? Where do you work? Where do you live? Who are your friends? What do you do for fun?
The more detail you have, the more you will be able to work towards what you want. For instance, if you know that you want a gf who is fit. It might be worth finding hobbies where fit people hanging out, and getting into this yourself etc.
You want to be better at socialising? Make a goal of going out twice a week and starting conversatinos with strangers. It will be difficult at first, but you will get better.
this will be my last post as I am heading out.
My advice to you,:
- be a happy person, the goal in live is not to see a vagina. its to find someone to share happiness with.
- life is very long. if that person is not here yet, so be it. go with your life and you will meet it soon enough.
- Do domething you care about, it will give you confidence, most issues with self esteem come from the thought that we are worthless. you have a long life to learn a lot of thing and be good at many things.
good luck.
>You want to be better at socialising? Make a goal of going out twice a week and starting conversatinos with strangers. It will be difficult at first, but you will get better.
I actually think that my problem are more generic than specific to women. In other words, I'm socially retarded. The thing is, unlike an actual autist I can actually talk pretty well with people (including girls) IF I manage to get a bit closer to them. What I mean is that I can't start interaction with strangers and it's difficult to get more intimate with a strange so that we become friends. But if somehow I (or they) do that, it gets much easier for me. I hope it's clear what I'm trying to say.
What you're telling me to do is literally impossible for me, and I never figured out a way to get past this problem.
WTF lol
dude, it's just sex. hire a whore, have fun.
High class escorts can give you an awsome experience, but Im not sure it wil solve your problem, but it wont hurt to try. Find a girl with good reviews and explain to her that it's your first time. Best of luck!
God Sup Forums is shit tonight.
My 1st shag was some 1 night stand I dragged home from the club when I was 18. I can't even remember her name. I can remember she smelt funny in the morning though.
Take this anons advice and make sure you get an escort not a street walker.
>literally
>What you're telling me to do is literally impossible for me, and I never figured out a way to get past this problem.
Bro, there are a lot of things in this world that you will never have control over. Don't discard the things you do have control over.
What is it that you actually want?
Yeah, street walkers are out of the question.
Yes. When I say I can't do it I mean that I feel paralyzed. As much as I wanted to make a move to start talking to a girl, or even just make friends, I can never do it. I can't even walk closer to a girl to approach. It's so fucking weird, I'm not sure I can explain.
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>What is it that you actually want?
Long term? You know what, this is a great question, and probably I can't fully answer now.
But I think that what I want more than anything else is a sense of belongingness. I never felt part of this world, or of the human race. I always felt alien. Yeah, I need to find a place on this planet, I need to feel like I "fit" somewhere, and that I can interact with people.
I did. Saw pros for a few years and lost it to one in my 20s. Did help my confidence. Got gfs, got married, all good.
Worth a try user.
Quit tripping, there isn't anything special about losing your virginity. Although, I wish I'd lost mine to someone who actually knew how to fuck.
Did knowing that you're not a virgin anymore help you getting other girls?
>a sense of belongingness
So what does a sense of belongingness look like? Who are the people who have this that come to mind for you and what do their lives look like?
found the virgin
it removed the crippling feeling. Didn't mean I immediately got other girls but it was a decent outlet for a couple of years. Also let me get good at sex.
Once I was older I ended up getting younger girls cos I had that self-confident older dude vibe.
Either your trolling or really nervous guy to be here asking for girl advice so if your a troll I ain't feeding ya
If ya ain't the
Dito
All signs are pointing towards escort OP. It's a good opportunity to get any kinky fantasies out of the way too.
I tried this and it traumatized me. Although it also made me more mature.
Your socratic method is making me think, user.
I think that most normies you can see around have at least a basic sense of belongingness. They can feel felings, and they can share them because they are connected with others. You can't have anything close to a decent life if you don't belong, I know this too well.
I can't really say what belonging feels like, but I suppose it makes you feel at peace with the world, instead of seeing it like a fucking battlefield.
>traumatized
What do you mean?
She asked me if I enjoyed CBT and I just assumed she had seen me pull up on my moped.
actually OP has a higher chance of catching STDs from anyone who would willingly have sex with him without payment
girls who sleep around have brains hijacked by disease, they are now just vectors who's only desire is to spread their nasty herpes
How come Sup Forums has become reddit? Fucking normies.
your only solution is to kill a normie, take their place by wearing their skin, and integrate back into society that way
cognitive behavioral therapy? is that a new fetish or something?
So you want a sense of belongingness, which for you has something to do with connection to other people. Specifically though?
What do the friendships of people with belonging look like? What do they value? What do they do for work? What do they do as hobbies? What does romance mean for them?
some people find seeing a prostitute as wrong. if you see it as wrong, you shouldn't do it. the question is if you see it as wrong. i dont see it as wrong and i dont see the reasoning behind why people think its wrong.
user i cant even remember the first time i banged.
What i can remember is thar after that i gained a bit more confidence because i knew how to properly make a woman have a good time.
Hire the prostitute and learn a few things to use later on once u get a real gf or wtv
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To be fair, when I lost mine it was awful. And the main reason it was awful was because I'd built it up in my head as being something ridiculous.
Oh she gave me "behavioral therapy" alright.
I have no idea. You're asking me what being a normie feels like. I wish I knew.
It's not morally wrong for me. I was wondering if it can actually be helpful, and so far some said yes and some other said that it's a bad idea.
The point is that what I rally want is not just sex. I actually want a gf, a whore wouldn't be enough for me. But at the same time, I wanted to know if at least it can be useful to gain experience. Apparently yes.
Interesting question: Why do you want a gf?
Do you seek love? Then love will find you.
Do you seek sex or a gf to be alpha? Then you will stay empty and forever alone inside.
Also, why are you here? No girls here.
>Do you seek love? Then love will find you.
Massive bullshit
>Do you seek sex or a gf to be alpha? Then you will stay empty and forever alone inside.
I'm not that type at all
>Also, why are you here? No girls here.
Here there are autists like me, who may have found themselves in my situation
This is a good thinking, user.
That would work... always an option OP.
I have autism but I still managed to fuck girl when I was 17. It helped me with confidence and understanding woman more. So, go for it!
>I have no idea. You're asking me what being a normie feels like. I wish I knew.
Defo think you're indulging in your insecurities now user.
You have an imagination, and your imagination is the only way you are going to change your situation. Imagine what you want to be different FFS.
>your imagination is the only way you are going to change your situation
this is not the first time I read this concept. Visualize something to make it true. It's harder than it looks, at least for me. I definitely have to think more about it, but I'm intrigued now, I'll see what I can do.
Once (if) I get a clear picture of what I want, what should I do next?
>Defo think you're indulging in your insecurities now user.
>You have an imagination, and your imagination is the only way you are going to change your situation. Imagine what you want to be different FFS.
Oh no, I ain't falling for this one again.
Last time, I was just gonna fly back to Andy's house and ended up falling down Sids stairs and braking my arm.
i would consider having sex a gainful experience. i dont know if there is something special about losing your virginity to a particular person. that would be the only negative, right? you lose your virginity to a prostitute vs. a gf. i dont think that would matter to me but i cant be certain bc i did it with a gf.
Just one step at a time dude. Seriously, do it right now. Label what it is that you want. I'll help you out.
>5 years from now you have 100 times more belongingness than you feel you do now.
>You get up in the morning, and go to the kitchen to eat breakfast. Now you live with [who do you live with user?] before leaving the house to
>go to work at [where do you work user?]
>you like your job because [why do you like your job user, why does it give you more belonginess?]
>After work you go to [where?] to engage in your favourite activity of [What is it? What activity do you have an interest in that you feel nourishes a sense of belonging?]
>While at [your activity], you hope to see [Who is she user? What qualities does she have?]
>That evening you lie down with the usual amount of life struggles and difficulties in your head but you have gladness in your heart that you now have 100X more belongingness than you did 5 years ago. You reflect that the most important change you made in your daily habits to get here was [what habit did you break, or take on to get more belongingness user?]
Play along user.
I wouldn't say that losing my virginity was a bad or good experience. But I do know that I've had good and bad sexual experiences. Generally the bad ones weren't great.
do it dude. your fucking dad is telling you to. he knows you.
do it a few times. why not.
>go to the kitchen to eat breakfast. Now you live with [who do you live with user?]
>While at [your activity], you hope to see [Who is she user?
>gladness in your heart that you now have 100X more belongingness than you did 5 years ago.
And 200% more sexual partners.
Don't do it.
In my opinion, It's a very bad idea.
alright, I'm gonna try this. You made me realize that my ideas about the future are not clear at all.
None of the guys who said it's a bad idea gave me a motivation, so far.
>In my opinion
Opinions are like ass holes.
For a little bit extra an escort will let you fuck her in the opinion.
Kek
Come on user, do it now. Let's sort your life out. You'll be an inspiration to us all.
What does your life with 100X more belongingnes than right now look like. what does a day in that liife look like. Come on user, cooooooooooome on!
>What does your life with 100X more belongingnes than right now look like.
Cluttered.