Explain to me why homeless people shouldn't be put into forced labor camps

Explain to me why homeless people shouldn't be put into forced labor camps

>protip: don't even bother trying

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Harambe didnt die for us to enslave the homeless. #praiselordharambe

forced labor camps is a bit much, but rehabilitation centers, definitely. You gotta figure, a lot of the homeless aren't to blame for their homelessness... a lot of them are vets that our government just abandoned. Never gave them access to the therapy they needed after war. Long story short, bunch of bullshit happened, a lot of these guys are damaged, but not criminals. Give em help, not slave labor.

It would be a net budget negative for whatever municipality decided to pursue this program.It's still basically redistribution and therefore inefficient.

Fucking vets, any old excuse to whine about fuck nothing. They need to get a fucking haircut and a shave, take a fucking shower and get a fucking job.

Bu buh muh freedoms...

because, freedom

freedom should only apply to people who can afford to livfe somewhere

Your social security and welfare systems exist only as government bureaucracies.
Until you get over the reflexive fear of "socialism" you'll never have health, wealth and/or happiness in your country.

The United States prison system already has forced labor camps. Inmates working for companies for slave wages.

well there's your answer then, put homeless people in prison

The majority of homeless people aren't lazy. Most have serious mental illness(es) that make functioning within society difficult.

i know you're just baiting to troll, but this has got to be the most retarded thing i've read in ages. You realize those vets FOUGHT for freedoms, whether ours or someone else's. Even if they don't have a place to live, they earned our respect, and they also earned the assistance the government is supposed to provide for them through the VA healthcare system. You can train a guy how to kill, and you can teach him lifeskills, but if he actually has to go and kill people in a war, he's gonna be fucked in the head after serving a full tour. They need mental help, and the government is obligated to provide it, but they're skimping out on shit. Add on top of that, there's plenty of vets with physical ailments as a result of service that causes them to be unable to work, but the VA fights tooth and nail to avoid paying out disability benefits for these vets either. FYI, i'm a Veterans Advocate IRL for Vietnam Veterans of America, and I have to deal with the bureaucrats in the VA all the damn time. Hell, there's one area where they totally fucked the vets over. I believe it was in California, they were supposed to be building a rehabilitation domicile, acquired the land with taxpayer dollars, built a facility with taxpayer dollars, then said fuck the veterans and turned it into an apartment complex for upper-middle class citizens instead of the veterans it was promised to. Long story short, by your logic, if you end up paralyzed somehow and are unable to work, we should lock you up, correct?

>implying mentally ill people shouldn't be put in prison

because its immoral

guess you should be locked away too if we follow your example. I mean, afterall, you are showing signs of being a sociopath.

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>freedom only belongs to people who can slave their lives away to pay for things they don't need so they can impress people they don't like
Do you see the flaws in that logic yet? There's no greater freedom than being debt free and able to go wherever you want. Now I agree that those fuckers holding signs on the side of the road should be jailed for extortion of peoples good conscious. They are not the same as the true homeless man who has fallen on hardtimes, iIshould know because iI've been there and never asked for a penny from anyone. I worked my ass off to get out of there and I'm that much smarter and wiser because of it. But yeah freedom is subjective man, Ifind it funny how many Americans praise being free, yet HAVE to wake up and work some job they don'tlike because "muh bills". As if material possessions would give a man purpose, true freedom comes from personal responsibility of ones life

You've got far too much common sense for this place bro, what is a rational individual like your good self doing here ?

Russia already did it, literally last century.

Gulags are so last century.

I may be rational but I've got a fucked up sense of humor too, so I tend to just chill on Sup Forums for a bit, lurking threads here and there, feeding my insatiable hunger for stupidity.

WEll what if they are black?

What about forced labour camps with nursery's included so we can round up the sponging single mothers who contribute even less yet still expect others to pay for their children ? All homeless people do is ask for some spare change, they don't ask for 18 year handouts from the government.

Because they can't work. Or they'd be working. Fuck... how dumb do you have to be that somebody needs to explain that to you?

Nothing wrong with homeless. They find their own way. Some people just don't fit into normal reality.

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so what if they're black. If you've fallen on hard times and know where to go for help do it. The only ones worthy of prison are the crackheads that stay homeless because of the drugs. Otherwise, if their life just sucks, the universe decided to teabag em, or their government abandoned em, they deserve to be given a chance, and at least some assistance in knowing where to go and what to do, after that if they don't wanna take those first steps, and they stay homeless because of it? That's their fault.

>Homeless
>shave
>take a fucking shower
You're one of those assholes that perpetuate the stigma and problem that homeless face

You can put them in forced labor but it won't be financially viable. Better to just send death squads out to shoot them in the back of the head.

>>protip: don't even bother trying
Then why start the thread you fucking tard

how about the problems normal people face when we've got to look at them and smell them

homeless subhumans should be fucking gassed

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The concept of free labor is far too enticing to not be exploited by powerful people. By creating an out for companies to get free labor from a problem that can result from lack of labor you create a self deprecating system that over time would lead to economic destabilisation and societal reform (probably by violent revolt). It's simply not economically viable, morals aside

Don't you have to go to school soon child?
Fucking ignorant twat

>The concept of free labor is far too enticing to not be exploited by powerful people.

it's called a free market economy, if they don't want to go in labor camps then they should take a shower, get a job and stop living like animals

Not sure if literal autism or just stupid.
> tells us to explain then says don't bother trying which one is it faggot

Implying that it would be possible for... Never mind you clearly don't have a very firm grasp on the subject

A twenty second if that "problem normal people face by seeing and smelling them" usurps the trouble and events that lead to someone being in that situation
KYS

oh, I get it, you're one of those bleeding hearts that automatically thinks everyone who puts on a uniform automatically deserves my respect

well newsflash motherfucker, if you smell of 6 months of sweat and you are crawling with lice and you're too lazy or mad to get a job and live in a fucking house then I don't have any respect for you, no matter how many Iraqi children you shot in the head

The kids got autism, let it go there's nothing we can do to enlighten

#GasTheHomeless

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Mostly because they can't be trusted not to fuck up anything they touch. The work they do would likely be sub-par and not worth the cost to feed them.

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OP if you genuinely have an interest in reformation systems and the effect of forced labor on economics please I urge you to keep at it. Your current understanding is flawed and undeveloped but that's nothing to be ashamed of. I implore you to read also on the effect forced labor has psychologically on prisoners. Eventually you'll realise why this is a terrible idea

i am the kaos. i am the almighty. i have returned from my slumber because you have summoned me. i put all of you on notice. my power is reaching out to you. you cannot escape. your age is at an end. mine is just beginning.

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Vets make up only 8% of homeless population. The other 92% are substance abusers, crazies, or hopeless fuckups. Camps would help them.

A homeless person has no way to get back on his feet. Nobody would hire them in their condition and most jobs require a home address. They start out as normal people who fell into homelessness due to some event like parents kicking them out or a wageslave that lost his job not being able to afford to pay his rent. After that it's all downhill and become quite mentally ill. A lot of bad things happen to them frequently.

You know who makes up of 25 percent of the homeless? Children. We should definitely put them to work cause they obviously put themselves in that situation. That sounds like a great idea.

Yeah back in 2005 everyone would be shitting all over the homeless.

OP, what are you saying is that "everyone" should be slaves, not just homeless people. That is the rammifications of putting homeless people into forced labor camps. Another thing is that this creates a very short half life for most nations.

that you Donald?

someone please call an ambulance, I cut myself really hard on all the edges in this thread

only put homeless niggers in camps. they're useless anyway and can't be assimilated into society

Because they would be fed, have a place to eat, and some sort of shelter. Just like we did with niggers and they still dont work.

why do you want to force anything on anybody, you fucking nazi.
you can offer help, thats all.

They should. Everyone should. Everyone belongs in a forced paid labor camp where you get to choose a job you're qualified for (within reasonable limits of what's currently needed) but have to have one and it has to involve physical and mental labor in balanced amounts and the camp can also guarantee fair pay under legal penalty.

Couldn't care less. These people don't deserve to live.

>92% are substance abusers, crazies, or hopeless fuckups

A vast chunk of drug abusers in the US were hooked by big pharma and doctors, who benefit from describing opiates.

The other thing is, that the US tends to not care about their citizens with mental illnesses. Things they were born with or suffered through after traumatizing situations.

Bringing both as an argument or even to semi-troll just shows, that you are subhuman garbage and have no place in human society.


If anyone should be in camps, it should be the sociopathic cancer like you and your ilk.

Kisses

The majority of homeless are mentally ill and can't function properly.

That's not freedom bruh, that's working for free time. So you're a bit of a slave to the system you subscribe to

some guys get divorced and lose everything, some guys had a business and went under. fuck off op

op needs to get a job

Ok, well no one has to respect your opinion either just because you fill all the check boxes you decided matter, you're just some overly angry person full of pain and anger anyways. Why should we listen to you?

Because homeless people are still, you know, people. AS in actual human beings. And there are these little things called human rights and morale that prevents you from doing that

I bet OP was listening to Slipknot while he wrote this post

>forced labor camps
OP is a piece of shit aka Stalinist

Samefag alert

this

Who are you?

Do I know you?

Nice idea Hitler. Now go fuck off and die.

>let's put the weakest of the weak into forced labor camps
how fucking daft can you be honestly

I was in a homeless position myself awhile back, I have stayed in a shelter and observed three distinctive people:

1. People who were very dissatisfied with their homeless position and did everything they could using whatever resource they had to get out of that situation and get back on their feet (myself.)

2.People who suffered hardship and gave themselves over to Christ and lived by the bible to fulfill a better life as a whole, but still pushed to get out of the shelter and on their own.

3.Bipedal scumbags who boast their "overwhelming" intelligence and cunning in being able to get a free ride through life by abusing the system in any way possible especially using religion as a tool, these worms actually take pride in their situation as they do not need to take responsibility for their actions. Note that these animals come in all different variations but the gist is still the same, they are lazy, lethargic with a misplaced sense of arrogant pride whom despite their situation blindly see themselves beyond the infrastructure of society and people who follow it.

I speak out of observation and experience, perhaps all of you sad cunts should learn a bit of intellectual humility.

You missed one.

4. People who are dissatisfied with being homeless but don't attempt to change because they are mentally ill and have given up on life as mentally ill people are wont to do in the face of hardship but certainly aren't proud of the way they're living and frankly would rather be left to die if it weren't for their self preservation instincts

Peole that were brought in who suffered from a mental illness were quick to be identified and were removed and placed into a facility that could help them, if this is regarding the vets note that not all of them are the same with some being fully capable of killing without mental recoil and others who simply get hit with shell-shock and cannot function at all after that, the issue with homeless people living out on the streets being filthy, nasty and begging a working man for spare change is something that is not to be tolerated, my 12 year old daughter was approached by one and he stalked her while she was out with her friends, you can imagine how I took that when I confronted him, point being is that they should not be out there at all, most vets who go through the legion/va DO get help if they fight for it (unfortunate but that is the way it is) but instead these pricks have entitlement issues because they fought in a war and demand respect because of it, which is a sure-fire way to piss off A LOT of people.

Maybe they moved them at your shelter, but salvation army does not do so.

>Implying you're not already in a massive forced labor camp

bait harder faggot.

Going through the salvation army is were it all goes wrong, they are a willing crutch and they do it thinking that is gods work.

but nigga at least they tried to make something of themselves and challenged themselves, instead of being a shitposting faggot on an outdated washed up anime image board.

They should take a state no one is using, like Idaho or something, and make that state the homeless state. All homeless from the other states would be shipped there.

Not true actually. It's all about reducing hospital visits. They would lose money on the job program, but gain back all the medical waste

We should send them all to Mexico.

Because the 13th Amendment outlawed slavery in America.

we should legit just put them all in tiny buckets t b h

why has no one thought of this

>put them in tiny buckets
>and mail them to Mexico

>a lot of them are vets that our government just abandoned
>join up at 18
>never learn money management because dumb kid
>stay long enough to become a "vet"
>get out in to real world where Uncle Sam doesn't pay for your housing, food, etc. anymore
>fail at life

Yeah, nah, fuck off.

because you wont be forcing them you'll be having issues keeping them away. You have to pay for a camp man, they don't. If you want to spend all of your money to keep up even the stupid basic amount of food and time it requires to keep them alive just so you can make less than china does for your shoes, go ahead.

Nobody cares what some 18 year old wanker happens to think about things like homelessness.

We should grind them up and make them into dog food.

>and sell it to Mexico.

What a cunt, they've done wars, you know.

What have you done?
>I don't know
>Honestly tell me more about yourself

Ma nigga

Literally tried and failed

>mfw american doesn't know about the history of vagrancy laws
>please reeducate

Because we live in an age that there is no menial labor to trust to unskilled workers. Without that, what you're suggesting is a giant camp to feed homeless people, supported by tax dollars, with a crew of overseers and administration.

Your plan for dealing with the homeless is to spend a shit ton of money on then, at that point, why not just give them somewhere to live.

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Worst bait imaginable. Lazy and boring.

Voluntary labor camps could be good if they got paid. help get them some money you know

Fucking neck beard.