Is there a dose of radiation that could instantly kill you...

is there a dose of radiation that could instantly kill you? like if you walked toward a nuclear reactor core would you just fall over dead without being physically burned? so you would be dead but your body would look fine on the outside

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How would anyone ever get access to a nuclear reactor retard?

From a typical reactor, no. You would die very quickly, but not instantly.

A radiation dose strong enough to instantly kill you would not leave you looking "fine" on the outside. It would be the most intense 'sunburn'.

This.
Also, the answer is yes.
A high enough dose of radiation will fuck up your nervous system and result in a very quick death.

Why do I get the feeling that op wants to sneak into a nuclear reactor

Elephants foot in chernobyl

1000 rads kills you...no cancer no long drawn out process...your organs shut down and you die...I would imagine it is very hideous way to go...I forget what a rad is equivalent to...something along the lines of 'time exposed per unit of radioactive substance' or some shit like that...I think every click on a Geiger is 'one rad' tho

Strictly speaking, the first blast of a nuclear weapon (the kind that vaporizes you and leaves your shadow burned into concrete) is radiation.

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>i got my degree in the capitol wasteland

Nuke fag here

Its not like you think, accessing the reactor during the process is actually fine on 3 of our 4 reactors.

The uranium is surrounded by water and it pretty much renders the radiation to acceptable levels

Its really really hot inside and we have strict restrictions when it comes to accessing the reactor when its active

basically because once you are inside, if you fall or pass out (very likely due to the heat) its not like you just call an ambulance

You get your knowledge of radioactivity from Fallout? Jesus.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rad_(unit)#Dose_examples

A click on a Geiger counter is a record of the sensor being struck by a particle.

Yes you would. Inside the reactor's core the radiation is so intense a small percentage of the heat produced is due to radiations (but only a small percentage as I said) but still high enough to give you a lethal dose in seconds. But obviously there is no way you can access the reactor's core.

No one is sure about the dose required though, as no human being has ever been exposed to more than 1500 REM (15 sieverts).

But if you take a very high dose like, let's say, 5000 REM (50 sieverts) in less than an hour, you'd die instantly as the cells in your nervous system would be shredded into pieces, you'd probably fall to the ground before convulsing and falling into a deadly coma. It could take minutes or even hours.

>1000 rads kills yo

1 rad = 10 mSv or 10 mGy

depends, some die with only 100 rads, some with 250, others with 500 (the "official" lethal dose)

Instant radiation poisoning is probably no more possible that being instantly killed by any other poison.

Only if the radiation intensity were high enough to vaporize you. If post-exposure effects are a non-factor, then gamma radiation exposure would be no different from exposure to another high-intensity EM wave. So, as others have stated, it might as well be a terrible sunburn.

Short of a nuclear weapon, no radioactive energy source on earth radiates enough energy to vaporize a human body. Even the most intense non-weapons exposure wouldn't be a lot better than jumping in to lava (which would also be surprisingly slow and agonizing).

meh

>(the kind that vaporizes you and leaves your shadow burned into concrete)

No that's the heat.

the radiation you'd get could be enough to kill you in an hour or two, but not high enough to generate that much heat.

Nope there's been plenty of people taking photos next to that.

what if you have two pieces of plutonium and you brought them together in your hands and they went critical. would that instantly kill you?

wow

most of you guys has no idea what you are talking about

No it's not dumb ass I have stuff in my house that gives me many clicks oh my giger counter and it is harmless.

op obviously has never heard the chernobyl story before

heat is radiation

>no

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin

no. its happened before. twice. with the same pieces of plutonium. took the victims a while to die

But ionizing and thermal radiation are two different things dylan.

heat is radiation faggot.

im talking if they were really big pieces of plutonium

here faggot

What's the difference ?

they would go critical anyway

No it is not.

no its mostly intense heat and pressure
ground zero at nagasaki showed 2000+ F 10,000+ PSI

this guy knows

go to bed tom

Google image search "japanese worker radiation exposure hospital" to see what happens when you get a extreme dose that wasn't sufficient to kill you outright.

This man received a high dose of radiation. All of his DNA was destroyed instantly upon exposure.

It took 83 days for him to die.

ouchi

lol, I posted it right after you said that.

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Have you heard about walking ghost phase? Learn some stuff first before you write your stupid shit.

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this guy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_mass have a look at this

why did they let him suffer for 83 days?

fucking barbarians

this guy clearly knows what hes talking about. hes probably a nuclear physcist

>hurr durr we know that this applies to people that get more than 5000 REM because the highest we've recorded so far is 1200 REM

I perfectly know what this is, but we don't know much about radiation sickness, each case has been different so far.

Funniest comment of the day.

if you did that... well radiation poisoning would be small problem for you

but let me elaborate more about radiation, because its a little more complicated than people think.

i have a few mSiv on my record and thats fine

because there are 3 types of radiation and all 3 of them are dangerous (most dont think to)

the most known is gamma because its the most troublesome

but alpha is actually much more dangerous than gamma because of its high energy intensity

gamma has effect on a distance but our biggest worry is that someone lick fingers (smoke cigarettes or drink water, all of which is strictly forbidden if you are working in the areas close to the reactor) and the alha radiating isotopes into them, because even if its only travels 1cm in free air and skin basically stops it, if you have it inside of you the damage output is much much worse than gamma

what about neutrons?

neutrons are massless so who cares

but they can still kill you.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

>neutrons are massless so who cares

this is how you spot a retard that got his info on " NukesForRetards.com"

please die

He was probably in a coma.

But yeah that's fucked.

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not in a coma, he was just way too weak to move or to speak.

cont...

think of it this way... if you get radiated by gamma its effects will be dispersed throughout your body (and you are 70% water) most of the time nothing will happen, but the water could be ionized and have a negative effect on you, worst case a chromosome is hit and one of the DNA strings are damaged, this is fine because DNA is always in pairs, and the corresponding code is on the opposite side of the string, the body usually have no problem recovering from this, but if you get alpha into the body, it has the energy to damage the DNA over fast areas and cause what we call double sided damages, then the body cannot repair the DNA because there are no corresponding amino acids to connect with.

el oh fucking el

That story is crazy. Dude got so fucked up that every chromosome in his body shattered, destroying his ability to repair his own body
They even tried to graft skin from his sister onto him, but he was so fucked that the transplanted skin died very quickly

Thanks for the lesson, it's not like we can find this shit on fucking wikipedia.

Alpha particles (and not radiation) are almost never taken into account because unless you get them inside you by eating/drinking or breathing radiactive dust, there is no way it can harm you there is always a way to stop them.

unlike gamma rays

It wasn't skin but bone marrow.

Thanks for the correction, its been a year or so since I read the story in detail.

so can nuetrons kill you or not?

No it's a jewish lie

they can. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

hey man, you were trying to learn and that was a dick move by me. Sorry I thought you were trolling.
PS if you were trolling your children will die in your arms after being ill for a long, long time.

A high enough quantity of anything can kill you, user

100k rads will kill instantly, DNA breakdown and protein coagulation.

its all good, no hard feelings.

Indeed true

you actually get more info from reading nuclear facility guidelines than you ever could find in a library

large parts are sadly classified so its nothing they give to the public to read

but what you stated is correct, you could get the particles inside of you from breathing (a reason why brushes and such is forbidden to use in some areas) if that happens there is NOTHING you can do...

so its actually worse getting contaminated than getting subjected to radiation

seriously, just put a bullet to his brain. End the suffering

Trip dubs confirm

>when you get a microwave and its more powerful the you thought

oh god are you one of those 'hot particle' fags? that shit is just fear mongering anti-nuke bullshit

why classify that? sounds like public health more than national security.

Japanese laws.

They had to try everything they could to save him, even if they knew he would die anyway

You could just jump into the open vessel when its being refueled. That shits fucking nasty radioactive.

Supposedly he asked the doctors to kill him multiple times, but they kept him alive until he quite literally wasted away.
As in his vitals were no longer held in by flesh so he just died

Guess it's not the real thing then. That thing will fuk you up

Only a neutron flash of very high density could fry enough of your cells to kill you instantly.
It's possible but not realistic nor efficient.
You overload your nation's health care services by dying slowly.
Why make you dead instantly?
It's more fun the slow way...

lol, it's not like Gomer the Nuke-Fuel guy just swings the door open and goes to work.

The pictures this guy is talking about were taken from a long way away
They set up mirrors along the path to it, and took a picture of it through the chain of mirrors

> he uses a pitchfork

I would have chosen Oppenheimer.

well i didn't say that particular info was classified, but its intertwined with classified info.

its hard to wrap into a nice package without raising questions

then there are always idiot in all kinds of big organisations that whats to show prestige by overdoing things

No, he was kept in a medically induced coma. They even do this with normal burn victims.

nope, its just how it works

If you like it or not, it just how it works

yeah, to me it's nice not knowing how and where that machine is running. I do like power though - so keep it up.

"alright mister: two thorium rods brings us to $631,894.99"

indeed

where i am active... the "green" movement actually spreads misinformation. Throwing numbers around and stating things that simply are not true.

I have no problem with having a debate but arguments that are brought forward should be corrects and based on facts

sadly its far from it

The highest dose recieved by a human being is 54 sieverts or 5400 REM

it was Boris Korchilov, a crew member of the K-19, he recieved it while reparing the reactor's cooling system, so he was working only meters away from the core.

He died 5 days later.

Louis Slotin recieved 21 Sv and died 9 days later.

By comparison, a spent fuel bundle of a PWR reactor has a dose rate of more than 240 sieverts per hour.

By this rate you'd get a lethal dose just by standing near it for a minute or two.

>were do you want the waste to go?
>just throw it in that waste paper basket

does fusion produce any radiation?

you need a significant amount of energy to trigger critical mass, having them on each hand then forcing them into each other is just not enough energy to start the process.

let me look in my StarFleet manual:
says here you are a faggot.

Nuke fag here

as im not working on a fusion plant (dont know if there are any in service)

the problem with nuclear energy is not the radiation you get during the process, its the waste and the potential dangers of meltdown.

Our biggest worry is not being able to stop the process if it gets out of hand (the likelihood is pretty much non existent however)

what if you were in a room made out of a nuetron reflector material?

Look if you want to die just get a shotgun. Nobody remembers being alive after they die because we lose consciousness forever. So it doesn't matter if people are scarred by seeing your head blown everywhere because they won't remember you or this life or existing at all when they die anyway.

Live dangerously and do everything you've ever wanted to do without any regrets whatsoever. Because when you die you'll forget you did it forever. So live every single day knowing this. Don't be a pussy. Don't slowly work your way up through society. Start doing the shit in your life you want to do right the fuck now and fuck what anybody else thinks.

Save up enough money and go fuck 1000 whores and shemales. Get fucked in the ass by a horse. Go to indonesia and go fuck some kids if that's your thing. Do whatever the fuck you want to do. Because you won't remember anything when you die and nobody else will remember any suffering they had when they die.

There are no morals. There are no consequences that matter in the end. There is no GOD. There is no Jesus. There is nothing.
Now go live your fucking life and do it right you fucking faggot nigger fuck face.

Or fucking kill yourself. Either way is fine.

other wise it will fizzle right?

Do you see the guy taking a smple ther?

He most likely died shortly after.

look up the demon core.