I hate this character. Episode 7 should've just been about a rogue stormtrooper that learns the ways of the force and a dark apprentice that is desperately trying to follow in the steps of his grandfather.
If Kathleen Kennedy wanted her female role then she should've turned Poe into a female ace pilot. That would've been exponentially better.
The movie is so good up until the point Rey LITERALLY snatches us away from the happenings on the Star Destroyer right to her roaming around scavenging. It's like a girl who's jealous of her boyfriend having too much fun with the guys on the couch so she ruins the fun so that the attention can fall back on her.
Literally every time the Attack on Jakku scene ends I just turn the movie off. After that scene it's no longer a Star Wars movie it's just a feminist SJW flick with an agenda.
Even with all its shortcomings, TFA is still infinitely better than the prequels.
Hunter Reed
Doesn't make it a good star wars movie, but only people who were actual fans realize this. It's a decent sci-fi action movie though.
Dylan Brown
>I hate
Grayson Richardson
Revenge of the Sith is objectively better than TFA.
David Parker
I want to lick her armpits
Asher Russell
>terrible script >terrible acting >boring, static camerawork >plot revolves around everyone acting like idiots >objectively better
Nice meme. TFA is a mechanically well made movie and the worst you can say about it is that it borrows from the original trilogy. The prequels are fundamentally broken films.
TFA is honestly better than ROTJ when you take nostalgia out of the equation
Christopher Garcia
The Prequels are much better children's movies. Lots of imaginative stuff in there.
TFA is just generic, by-the-numbers bullshit for manchildren and braindead normies. It'll definitely be forgotten before the Prequels are.
Grayson Sanders
Nope, not even remotely
Kayden Kelly
How was it not a Star Wars movie?
Hudson Stewart
It's fanfiction. It adds nothing new to the setting. It could just as easily take place in the Star Trek universe or some other random space opera setting.
Jaxon Bailey
what do her teeth smell like
Kevin Morgan
>TFA is honestly better than ROTJ when you take nostalgia out of the equation
Wew time to kill yourself senpai. TFA isn't even a film like RotJ is. Its a Disney product that heavily borrows from Marvel's capeshit elements. The film feels like a two hour trailer that holds off on the action and cinematic virtue just to save it for the future installments in the universe. It's a perfect example of everything that's wrong with Hollywood today and how we've become content with subpar blockbusters that are meant to just be a “taste" of what's to come in future sequels instead of being a singular film that holds gravitas and weight.
Josiah Cook
>there are people like this who actually exist
The only film that Ep 7 is definitively better than is Ep 2.
Bentley Cook
It adds splinter group from the Empire, a slowly rebuilding Republic (which is ultimately destroyed), a stormtrooper rebelling against his programming, a scavenger of unknown origins, Han doing actual smuggler things, new force moves, and a villain who is actually torn between his desire for for dark power and an inherent call to the light because the Snoke has broken into his mind since he was a child. Not to mention force visions.
None of that stuff has been seen before.
Brayden Butler
that's a stretch.
ep 7 is the worst of the bunch honestly.
the most simple minded, idiotic, childish of all of them.
Blake White
I just wish the music was good. Every star wars has music I remember except this one.
Jose Butler
It's uninspired shit that could easily take place in another generic space opera setting with only a few small cosmetic changes.
Luis Jenkins
Rey's theme is the one that stands out to me, but nowhere near as much as say, Duel of the Fates or the Imperial March.
Caleb Cruz
You do know that ANH is the most generic of all plotlines right? It's the Hero Journey.
That doesn't stop it from being amazing.
Carter Evans
Agreed.
I wish Adam Driver and Oscar Issac hadn't debased themselves with this trash.
Brayden Richardson
God I wish they get rid off that stupid hairstyle.
Isaiah Perry
I'd be surprisingly ok with strong female character who can do anything and is loved by everyone, if she was at least sexually attractive. Instead we get this deformed talentless goblin.
Christopher Johnson
You just decided you were going to hate the movie because le evul jews made it
And lets just ignore how George was a moneyminded executive from square 1, the auteur shit was a lie he told himself
Brandon Reyes
Never once did I say anything about Jews. I gave a clear and coherent opinion about my disdain for the movie. Stop putting words in my mouth o save face and change the narrative.
And George can be all those things, but atleast he was visually creative.
Jason Mitchell
You haven't answered this yet:
Ian King
Gr8 b8
Eli Morales
>Never once did I say anything about Jews
You decided that since Disney made it you were going to hate it. You're going to deny it, but you made up your mind about TFA when Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2012.
Isaac Morgan
The Force Awakens suffers from pretty bad pacing after the first act and never really explains itself well (meaning it can't stand on its own two feet). Plus, its protagonist is bland and overpowered. The score is forgettable and the film has a scene straight out of Phantom Menace (rathars). On top of all this, it steals all of its good ideas from the Original Trilogy and leaves what little new stuff it has underdeveloped. People will be more open to admitting its numerous flaws once the hype truly wears down. The excitement about there being a competent SW film for the first time in decades is still in the air.
Blake Jones
>there are actually people so contrarian as to say the prequels are better than TFA Anyone who says this needs to rewatch them, they are fucking garbage. RotS is about on par with TFA but PM and AotC are some of the worst big budget movies ever made
Connor Clark
Quite the opposite I was actually excited.
stop projecting your own feelings onto me.
Anthony Barnes
How is any star wars movie a stand alone film? Even a new hope has a sequel hook with Vader getting blasted into the unknown. And empire and rotj are all based on a setup made by the previous films. And we all know george made background characters have names and a backstory to sell toys of them.
Adam Cooper
>it's a "Star Wars wasn't always garbage" shit
Isaiah Sanchez
Are you gonna seriously argue ANH wasn't a self contained film just because Vader gets away?
Alexander Peterson
In the technical sense, yes.
Ryder Green
This.
Daniel Wilson
>should've turned Poe into a female ace pilot holy crap this really is so much better
Andrew Gonzalez
Can anyone explain why all of those pieces of shit with a STRONK FEMALE PROTAGONIST always have male villains who are pathetic incompetent idiots? Is it because if a male villain was scary and competent, he'd quickly show the bitch her place and there'd be no story?
Ian Mitchell
It is a self-contained film, but it's open-ended.
Jose Williams
Finn not being a racist caricature would have been nice.
Wyatt Clark
You're right. We all know a man like Vader would probably just retire to naboo and drink blue milk for the rest of his life. But I would actually argue that ANH isn't a stand alone film because the series was written as a fucking trilogy from the start, and has two sequels to finish the story.
Leo Gray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boring, static camerawork
Oh boy.
Luis Butler
I thought we stopped giving a shit about TFA. Stop making threads about Rey you unoriginal plebs. She's been milked to death, every flaw scrutinised in detail. We can stop now.
Isaiah Gutierrez
>pacing
Stopped reading here. That is the be all and end all of TFA debates. Decent film that was mired in poor pacing.
And dull, unimaginative set design, but that's a whole different matter.
Levi Ward
This. The hate is understandable but it's been 6 months now.
>should've just been about a rogue stormtrooper that learns the ways of the force and a dark apprentice that is desperately trying to follow in the steps of his grandfather. >should've turned Poe into a female ace pilot. Most of your post is shit but this would have been cool.
Nicholas Brooks
Why do people like female protagonists in actionshit again? Women don't know how to fight (inb4 muh Gina Carano, Ronda Rousey, etc. Any male who's not a fat fuck or a skinny fag could knock them out in one punch) Men being competent in combat doesn't feel as jarring and unrealistic.
Jose Ward
>l-leave my waifu out of this
Ian Morris
fuck this fat sperg
Zachary Edwards
the prequels though poorly done was miles above that crock of shit that was the force awakens. Ms maRey sue and all was pure and utter shit, in especially jar jar binks, i mean finn.
Jonathan Green
(you) have autism.
Nolan Lewis
Yeah, because Jew Jew and the rat are so much better, right? Get the fuck outta here you fucking failure at life.
Brody Ortiz
I can't tell if it's just meming or not, but do people on here actually think there are any good star wars movies? The prequels are complete and utter shit, and the originals really aren't much better. Is it nostalgia or just a joke?
Cameron Cooper
You allowed the Jew and the rat to fool you into thinking that piece of shit was actually enjoyable. Cognitive Dissonance is off the charts with ye.
Easton Martinez
The prequels were shitty and the originals not much better but even their mediocrity is miles above the shit awakens. I find it hilarious that everyone praises such a shit film. fuck that movie.
Aaron Hall
You know what you did george, you TRAITOR
Bentley Moore
(You) have autism. kys
Kevin Ortiz
Keep telling yourself that.
Asher Harris
Yes, I have autism because I didn't ride the trending cock carousel a lot of yous new age fucking dimshits eat up because Harpo or Nelle or queen dyke fat bitch says you should get on as soon as possible. No thank you. the shit awakens was the grossest pile of shit I've seen in a long time.
Gavin Perez
TFA's acting was the best of the series. People always forget that the OT acting was pretty meh most of the time. And we all know how they somehow managed to make decent actors seem terrible in the PT.
But while TFA's actors were good, its script was bad and the acting couldn't quite save it.
Carter Richardson
>complain about generic story >ANH was literally designed to be as generic as possible
Colton Martinez
What do tell strikes you as the force awakens best bits, the sweeping score, the epic cinematography, the beautiful epic other worldliness or the characters in especially the bitch who can do all things being disney's newest tiara princess who needs no man and stuff. the force awakens acting was the best? which scene was the best, dimshit?
Jordan James
Generic means, you incorrigible cunt, Run of the mill or not unique something that's like something before it that isn't special as is.
A new Hope, you insufferable dimshit, was the greatest science fiction story ever told. Find me one movie that parallels it. You can't and you won't. Jar Jar and the Rat copied ANH and Empire and Return and mixed up a perfect batch of dog shit calling it the shit awakens.
Cameron Adams
But then they couldn't make him gay for progressive points.
Jack Allen
Women can fight, they're just never as strong as men. But it doesn't matter in this movie because the normal rules don't apply when a character has the Force. They can just say that boosts all of her abilities.
Jordan Nelson
Doesn't change the fact that ol' Georgie set out to implement the Hero's Journey by the numbers. But you could keep being mad though, if that gives you a reason to live.
Gavin Ward
>Women can fight Fuck no. All they can do is flail their arms around like retards in real life. I'm sure that even if my size, strength, speed and durability were on par with an average woman, I'd still easily beat her.
Asher Young
>the female flesh is simply no match for my fedora fighting sensibilities
Justin Roberts
The hero's Journey by the numbers you say? So what did the shit awakens implement? Because if I remember the Hero's journey, the hero starts off as a weakling who through the course of his 'JOURNEY' develops into a hero. He doesn't start off a hero but he becomes one, because in the beginning he fails repeatedly and with the help of friends he meets on this journey he finds success, but, only after much trial and error.
Ms maRey sue however flew the falcon all by herself when previously it was established it ran better with two pilots in especially in a dog fight.
But not Ms Tiara princess of power who could into everything thing right out the gate because the Hero's journey was a never you mind to Jar Jar and the rat. she could climb, she could out force use an active force master, she could into everything just because even telepathy, sword fencing, and force pull, apparently. Luke took minutes, several of them to pull his saber to him and in fact, he later got his ass handed to him by a master when vader pushed debris at him and he tried to block it and failed. Were it maRey sue however, Vader would have gotten his shit pushed in.
Landon Stewart
I think the only equivalent would could be applicable to how ridiculously fucking powerful maRey sue is, if Neo in the first Matrix film woke up with all the powers he had by the third movie. If that were the case we'd have called Neo a poorly done bullshit gary stu. But no, the wachowski BROTHERS, knew well enough that the Hero had to gain his power only after much trial and error and by movie's end, NEO gained his power. By the third movie however, the only power Neo could have used against the bad guy was the power of self sacrifice. A fitting end to a brilliant Hero on the HERO'S JOURNEY.
fuck the force awakens, fuck the rat and fuck jar jar abr'shits.
Kayden Edwards
Most girls in the mma would get their shit pushed in by the geekiest of geeks. I kid you not. A man's muscle and bone density's that much greater, even the geeky kind.
Cooper Butler
Its shot reverse shot ad nauseum in front of blue and green screens.
>inb4redditlettermedia
Jose White
It's happening.
Nathaniel Cook
BACK OFF
Camden Rivera
It should have been about the piwer vacuum left aftwr the empire fell it should have been about a former imperial marshal who hunts down rebels who are wanted by the imperial remnant for questioning regarding terror attacks and bonvings
Samuel Garcia
Except Rey is more akin to Neo in the first movie. Some powers are awakened and she beat the bad guy but theres more training to be done and the bad guy will be back for more in the next one
Youre just mad rey is a girl, even if youve convinced yourself otherwise
Connor Rivera
>Reylo happening
Eli Cruz
>Youre just mad rey is a girl, even if youve convinced yourself otherwise I'm starting to believe that this must be the number one reason that fuels these threads. If she had been a guy there wouldn't be as many threads bitching about him. Sure he would be compared to Luke and be called shit but not to this extent.
Juan Carter
This is the most retarded thing I've ever seen. The prequels suck fucking balls. Yippee!
Ethan Wilson
Yes but not because of misogyny, it's because the directors made her over the top good at everything BECAUSE they were writing for a female character
Isaiah Martinez
You're fucking retarded. maRey sue effortless out mind pulled a force master then went out to outfight him with force ability and fencing. He had her at the edge, he says force and suddenly, she overpowers him? FUCK!
How in the fuck is that paralleled by Neo, you fucking idiot? Neo, believing he was the one still got his ASS HANDED TO HIM, BY SMITH! Because he was able to flip out of the way of the train saved his ass. IN fact, he didn't beat Smith until HE FUCKING DIED!
Admit it, she's a maRey sue!
The only force ability Luke showed was timing when to pull the trigger, when people say he forced the torpedo into the tubes using the force I want to find them and poke them in the eye. The missiles had a homing computer, the hardest bit was lining them up to the tubes. The targeting computer couldn't handle the trajectory and the changing environment. Luke used the force to time when to fire, that's it. He didn't do shit after firing at the right time.
The revenge of the sith was a better movie though.
Levi Myers
kys
Julian Carter
There is actually more evidence pointing to it lately and I'm not sure what to think.
Jaxson Davis
>kylo ren >force master
Youre an idiot who didnt understand the character.
Jose Anderson
Like what? Nothing has been confirmed by those msw guys.
Blake Martinez
Shows what you fucking know about the lore, which is fine Mr casual viewer. But sorry, FORCE TELEPATHIC INTORROGATION, AND FORCE FREEZE are two of the most Over Powered force abilities ever shown on film. In ANH, vader resorted to an inquisition droid to find out the location of the rebel base. In the second film, he used the same against Han. Han fired at Vader and vader used his mechanical glove to absorb the shots. KYLO REN GETS IN YOUR HEAD AND FORCES YOU TO REVEAL SECRETS TO HIM, AND HE FORCES NOT ONLY AN ELECTRIC PLASMA BOLT IN MID AIR BUT ALSO THE ONE WHO FIRED THE FUCKING SHOT!
You force awakens groupies makes me violently ill when you try to defend that dog shit.
William Powell
Nothing, since the advent of sith lighting is as impressive as force freeze. How many force users we saw die in the prequels That could have really used force freeze?
They made maRey sue all powerful because disney can't into sequels and had to have their tiara princess find her crown and beat the bad guy by film's end. Name me one tiara princess who got her power up or crown by the third film.
Dominic Murphy
I loved the developing romance between your character, Finn and Rey in “The Force Awakens.” How is that romance evolving in the next chapter?
Boyega: I mean, we didn’t establish a romance in seven; we never played it that way. Daisy and I, we’re friends.
So there’s no romance?
Boyega: Yes, Finn and Rey – they’re just friends. Finn is a storm trooper, so he doesn’t really know what’s going on. So the romance thing is something that’s going to be interesting in the next installment. It’s not going to go the way you think it’s going to go.
Austin Sanders
Im sorry that you think the force is DBZ powerlevels and youre incapable of understanding character arcs
Eli Brown
Rey not wanting to kill him according to leaks, Rey Skywalker being basically dead, Boyega coming out and pretty saying FinnRey won't happen and that the romance will go in an "unexpected" way, the weirdly suggestive Star Wars celebration art that was approved.
It's more likely that Rey will end up alone like Luke and I honestly couldn't give half a fuck about what happens to her character anyways. But I wouldn't mind Reylo happening purely so I can watch the huge shitfit half the internet will throw about it.
John Kelly
He's not a master but he's very skilled in the Force. It just doesn't matter when he's mentally and emotionally fucked and then very heavily injured later.
Landon Howard
I shouldn't apologize because I've always liked Phantom Menace. You fuckers should apologize
Anthony Campbell
Even if they show signs, Kylo's redemption ends with him dying.