With more and more jobs being automated in America, while the population keeps growing...

With more and more jobs being automated in America, while the population keeps growing, and while the income gap between the rich and everyone else keeps growing, is there really any other choice besides wealth distribution?

>Socialism: the radical idea of stealing

Kek, dubs of truth

Capitalism should be regulated, there must be a balance between left and right: both extremes are bad, be it neoliberalism or socialism

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>giving money to people that don't work

yea I know, automation, etc etc

doesn't change anything, you don't give money to people who don't work

...or the usa can just cull its excess and useless population?

>wealth distribution

>because the poor need to be poorer while the rich become richer

Kill the useless people.

Sharing is fucking gay, especially mandatory sharing. I always hated buying my snack just for me at school and having to share with the whole damn class

That shit is making things fucking worse.

>This man endorses crony capitalism because he thinks it sounds agreeable

EAT THE RICH, TEAR THEIR FLESH FROM BONES, TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THEM

i think we're going to end up with 20% rich people, 5% super rich, 1% ultra rich, and everyone else trailer trash getting government welfare payments.

Give ONE good reason why the usa should not cull the bottom 10% of its population.
Thanks.

just start to fucking work you fucking lasy shit, get a job and work hard. stop being greedy for someone else money

they have the right to not be killed? i think they should be exiled rather than killed. let mexico have them.

>goverment welfare payments

but who will provide it,we would end with the so called "20 percent super rich"leaving the country,the 5 percent super rich will leave the country and the 1 percent ultra rich will do the same

socialism is a failed idea because people generally dont want to share the things they worked hard for with the ones who will never expierance a hard days work in there lives

You mean the people who make the usa work? Those folks YOU rely on?

Automation makes all manufacturing, and other business for that matter, cheaper and more efficient. You expect prices will go down accordingly?

If the money isn't distrulibuted evenly, it'll end up in the pockets of owners. I for one think it's sad that people have been conned to support this idea.

Shooting people who try to distribute my wealth.

Maybe.
And if nobody else wants to take them?

the taxes on the top quarter will provide it. they'll be rich enough because they own all the robots that do the real work. i dont want this future, its just what i see coming.

then let them starve i guess

sad or not, regardless

you don't pay people who don't work

>taxes

>literally didnt read a word that i typed

the tax payers will either end up poor,or they will leave the country

Oh good... now they've all moved to Europe.
What next, Einstein?

every advanced country pays people who dont work. im not supporting it, but stating that its an empirical fact. even most companies pay some employees that do nothing.

Problem?

Not... by... choice.

and that is a mistake, and thus the scientific evidence to my assertion as to why you don't pay people who don't work

where are they going to go? europe where the situation is the same? algeria? india? year right

they pay people who dont work because its a better alternative then those people who dont work stealing and robbing you for the stuff they want instead

this is why welfare was invented regardless you like it or not

you're fairly confused, how old are you?

Yea. The poor starve and a golden era of the super-rich emerges.

what are you 12?

it doesnt work though, plenty of people on social welfare are still criminals.

just because it works in your liberal fantasy land doesnt mean it works in real life

people have left countrys that decided to try socialism before,and its why 95 percent of them look like 3rd world shit holes

But you are discussing the usa.
Stick to the usa's problems.
Or are you saying it only works after a one-world government is in place?

I'm sorry where you even present the past 8 years?

fine,take away the poor's welfare checks.dont come crying to the gun owners to save you from them robbing you for there money instead

welfare is a mistake, you pay people who don't work and they still steal and rob others anyway

>Let the poor die.
This seems like it would be part of how the guillotine got invented.

Where did you get the idea that the world I describe is the one I want or support?

Further, do you understand how socialist Europe and America already are and are becoming? It's called democratic socialism and it's fairly prevalent in the West.

>you expect prices will go down accordingly?
Well if any other company wants to have more sales then the others then OF FUCKING COURSE THEYLL GO DOWN

so what would be your solution to the problem then,taking away there welfare will just cause more of them to steal and rob others

Actually, they created their systems because they didn't want folks starving in the gutters and old folks dying in poverty.

But look where it leads?

Eh. I don't really care about things being more automated considering my job is to install and repair robots, so my job is safe for quite a while.

Sharing is what you decide to do with YOUR stuff. If you decide to do it with MY stuff, it is not sharing, it is just stealing.

Also, wealth inequality getting larger is not of necessity a bad thing. If the rich became twice as wealthy and the poor did too, the gap would be larger, but the poor would be better off.

social welfare payments should be extremely meager to encourage people to find an alternative. right now it's only encouraging trans-generational poverty.

This. The problem is its mandatory, now if you dont "share" men with guns will come to your home and lock you away.

If all work ends up automated, then we'll basically all be this dude.

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if everyone gained x2 wealth, inequality would be the same, dumbass.

1/2 = .5
2/4 = .5

Then the owners of businesses, residents of homes or their automated guns, blow new holes in the faces of the thieving hordes.
Problem?

there's no such thing as democratic socialism, in the west we are seeing a gradual takeover by the left who will foolishly lead us back to communism

no one democratically chooses to let the government steal from it's citizens, this idea of democratic socialism is a lie perpetuated by the leftists

Capitalism: The ideal that compulsory sharing mandated by the state is tyranny.

:/ i think you might benefit from backing off your ideology just for the sake of argument

Who says the useless humans automatically get a x2 bonus?

Capitalism: lie, cheat, steal and as long as you don't get caught it's all good. you're a "job creator"

Socialism: lie, cheat, steal and as long as you don't get caught it's all good. we have to protect "vulnerable minorities"

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remove the threat, to hell with your bleeding heart

society has always stood on foundations of skulls and bones, the only reason we are in the current shape that we are in is because leftists made promises that can't be kept, the toll will come due and the piper will be paid in one bloody form or another

be angry with the dead fools who first instituted the scam of welfare for all I care, but don't try to guilt me for it

if it hurts you so much then give up your wealth to those people then, but don't encourage a government that steals my income and calls it "taxes" and pretends it was democracy that made it happen all while we pass $21 trillion in debt

I'm in the industry closest to the development of automation here.
Ask me anything... but don't ask me to not destroy the jobs of millions of soon-to-be-useless-and-unnecessary humans...

I'm not sorry about what I do.
It's fun...

Socialism: the radical idea of being forced to share at gun point.

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>Well if any other company wants to have more sales then the others then OF FUCKING COURSE THEYLL GO DOWN

thats exactly crony capitalism. when there is no competition THEY WONT GO DOWN

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>liberals still think socialism means redistribution

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automation is literally going to make meninless jobs obsolete, force people to educate and apply them selves. If the uneducated and people with no aspirations weren't so damn greedy companies would not even bother trying to rid themselves of the idiots.

>education makes people smarter

you need to come out of that fantasy

Survival of the 'fittest' means those 'best fitted' to the environment.
For humans, the 'environment' is the workplace.
No skills, no talent, no use?
Fine, no eat.

What about the natural structure of the world don't you like?

Problem?

>huge company has ludicrous prices
>random people get outraged
>decide to make the shit themselves
>set the prices lower to attract people to them instead
>other company gets mad
>also drop prices
>repeat
Where's the flaw? There will always be competition, and if there isn't then then people who are sick of the monopoly will create it.

>but don't encourage a government that steals my income and calls it "taxes" and pretends it was democracy that made it happen all while we pass $21 trillion in debt

You literally know nothing about economics.
What do you think is the largest expenditures of the US government?


>medicare and medicaid, including healthcare for vets
>most importantly, the "defense"
>social security

You want to live in the most powerful country in the world, right?

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>Socialism: the radical idea of giving people rewards which they have done nothing to earn

FTFY

...cuz everyone can be retrained to design aircraft?

Good luck with that plan.
Next stop... AI software that designs aircraft.

Then what?

want to volunteer as the first sacrifice?

So why aren't you making a cheaper electric car, user?
What's stopping you?

Mandatory sharing is not sharing, that's called stealing you retarded Bernie supporting fuck.

That's right. Fuck veterans and the elderly. Let them all die of starvation

What makes you think you're anywhere above the cut-off line?

Who gets to decide?

There's a reason we have human rights as a widespread concept and it's to keep some 1984 or Brave New World bullshit from happening.

Capitalism in this sense is fine.

When your local government (or federal for that matter) restricts your ability to create the "new" product to compete with the monopoly -- that's where it fails. And that is essentially what the FDA is and does-- You can't just go make a drug and sell it to compete with the prices of the other drugs -- there are laws and regulations that must be met. Meeting those regulations aren't cheap. You can't compete with these large lobby powers to make a difference!

If you want to have safe and effective healthcare then you need to restrict the market. Are we better off without the FDA?

It... won't... be... his... choice.

I think you mean national socialism mate
:^)

What use are they?

Because they're expensive for anyone to make, and require education about them. People could get that education, but not me. So therefore, nothing's stopping me, I'm just not the person who thinks the prices I'm paying at the moment are ludicrous.

move to cuba, let us know how it goes.

>implying that you're not too much of a dumbass to trigger your own automated defense system on accident and off yourself.

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If you think like this then you literally know nothing about economy.

Ade, ade, ade...

Perhaps, but the FDA is good to some extent (making sure that the product actually does what is says it does and is held up to the quality it says it is) but other times their power is a bit too far, but that's another problem entirely.

Name me one job that's been automated in the last few years. The automotive industry doesn't count.

Ok, so where does this line of logic end up then? The only motherfuckers earning any money are the guys who build robots and repair robots, and they only catch a break until it's cheaper and easier for robots to exclusively build and repair one another, and we become defunct altogether. So, nobody works, nobody gets paid... then what?

Please tell me that at least some of you morons have read 1984 and Brave New World and know the crazy fucking dystopian bullshit that comes out of trying to reconfigure society.

The solution here is a Prime Intellect.

I'm not.
I accept that.
Machines are humanity's natural successor, our evolutionary successor.
I'm working toward that.
It's a noble goal, knowing that something in our project might be in 'something' that inherits the world from humans and goes on to live for a million years.

Or did you think I was afraid, user?

Cashiers are being automated at fast food places now. Not OP but don't be a fucktard.

shipping, like at amazon. the guy on a forklift is now a robot. some jobs are still human but a lot have been automated.

>You want to live in the most powerful country in the world, right?

I want to live in the freest country in the world, if I live to see the next civil war I'll be looking for people like you