What are some modern albums that you think will go down as classics in 40-50 years?

What are some modern albums that you think will go down as classics in 40-50 years?

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Death Grips is going to be looked back upon as the most important artist of the 2010s

Swans for their mallgoth revival

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future dadrock classic coming through

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Top kek

Will be forgotten in 15 years

probably
I could see this, its highly regarded and Kendrick has both normie and music nerd fans in lack of a better way of wording that. I personally think it's a bit overrated, but I could see this being remembered as a classic hip hop album from it's time period.
As much as I enjoy these, probably not. Especially Atlas & Hospice. TLOP stands a chance though, but likely if any Kanye album will be remembered as a classic it will be MBDTF.
If anything it'll be momcore from tumblr girls who had children.
nice memes

Not this, that's for sure.

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anyone who says otherwise is dumb..

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Definitely not the the best album to have been released this decade, but it seems to have a timeless quality to me that might ensure at least some listening in perhaps 20 years.

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Yellow House, Have one On Me, Teen Dream, Innerspeaker, Public Strain, Diamond Mine, Ashes Grammar... the list can go on

It's almost ten years old at this point and people are still recommending it and talking about it.
I don't know about "classic" but its gonna stick around.

MBDTF is already a classic
Yeezus is the other one that's going to be remembered fondly as well

Already a landmark album

It doesn't hold up to his older stuff and is so self referential it hurts. It'll be a bookmark in his discog of his death and nothing more.
Like can you imagine some pleb recommending or writing about this album the same way someone would about Ziggy Stardust, Station, Low or Heroes? I don't want to live in a world where that happens.

These are just awful, I'm not even opposed to considering Good Kid mad city as a classic somewhere down the line but the politics of Butterfly will date it like milk.

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I think this too, especially in the uk.

Just yes

Travis will probably never come close to releasing anything this good again though.

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I thought Birds was great fuck you

Its on Its Way to being a Classic But theres still a long Way to go

unironically

808&Heartbreak

the war on drugs - lost in the dream

This.

Haha great Post Well memed my Friend

None of them because we now live in an era where consumer culture has made cultural nostalgia moot and it's been this way since the mid 90s.

Glad you enjoyed it, it sounded like pee pee and poo poo to me friend.

>Can't even stand on its own two feet for nearly twenty years without someone holding it up as a meme or a lost gem

I have lots of dat XD meme

Feel like you arn't going with the meme hehe XD

Good =/= Classic. Blackstar's timing near his death combined with the relatively out there (for Bowie) musical style of the album (mainly just Blackstar and Lazarus) means that it'll be hard to forget.

And TPAB is going to be remembered BECAUSE of its politics, not despite them. Period pieces have a tendency of sticking around.

GKMD will likely be remembered as well, though more as a contrarian option for the next generation of Sup Forumstants, kind of like Animals for Pink Floyd.

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Even if the politics or subject matter on TPAB were irrelevant, the album is just really well done and doesn't have a bad song. Especially when you look at it in the scope of other hip hop albums, TPAB shits on most any other full length albums in hip hop in recent memory.

simply Epic......

That's debatable. What isn't debatable is that it came out with a fuckton of hype, to mass normie recognition and critical acclaim, and that's really all you need to be a "classic".

It certainly won't be seen as influential.

>doesn't have a bad song
*deletes Mortal Man*

Yes

Nope

retard

>Good =/= Classic
Yeah it kind of does because the only reason you have classic albums is because people have kept listening to them and talking about them well past the day they were released.
You can pretend that Blackstar holds up as well as Bowie's old stuff but you know its not true. It'll be remembered and talked about in Bowie's circle of fans and that's great but it doesn't make a classic.

>Period pieces have a tendency of sticking around.
Not in pop music. Every political album ever made that is still recommended because of its musical achievements despite its politics

>though more as a contrarian option for the next generation of Sup Forumstants
lol fucking hell dude, GKMC will be remembered because it resonates with black kids so much not because of "future Sup Forumstants"
TPAB is this big dumb album lyrically because it lacks emotional nuance that GKMC has and because of that despite whatever musical accomplishments it has of just being a better than average album it'll isolate future music fans.

I'm fucking loving birds rn it's a great album imo

Hopefully

doubt

This thing is easily the most under looked julien casablancas involved project and for damn good reason

Yes. If the keep releasing more in the 2020s (fucking doubt it, Zach is already 39) they have a chance for both decades

That implies that people only like good albums, or that people have similar taste, or that all great albums become classics. I'd argue that a lot of staples of Sup Forumscore will never become classics, not because they aren't fantastic but because they'll never be popular enough.

I consider classics stuff like White Album or Dark Side of the Moon, shit that normies recognize and critics agknowledge is pretty good. Within, say, rock elitists you might say that Trout Mask Replica is a classic, but only because more people in those subcircles recognize Beefheart's work.

TPAB isn't the greatest of the decade. But it was popular, and it was good enough. Unlike GKMD it really doesn't sound like any other big name hip hop album released that year, which is a huge plus in its favor.

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Greatest hip hop artist this generation has ever seen

To me the definition of a classic album is one that is well liked by the consensus and is talked about well after its release.
However for that to happen it also needs to be able resonate across generations by standing the test of time. I can see GKMD being talked and recommended in the future because of how it portrays the struggles and pressures of being a black kid which is probably a struggle that's going to continue well into the future.

TBAP on the other hand was a big album because there weren't a lot of albums at the time addressing the current events and politics that were happening in black communities at the time and because of that it had an emotional resonance at the time.
The further we get away from "at the time" though, the more those emotions become dulled and we forget things and "time heals all wounds". But as well as that the next generation won't even have those memories.

There's also another reason, I don't want to compare TBAP to 9/11 songs (because its not fucking awful like them) but 9/11 country songs made tonnes of money at the time because of how they resonated with the fears and bewilderment of people who felt lost after the attacks. Those songs are just historic landmarks now. No one listens to them and its not just because of how politically charged they are. It's because of how those songs remind people of a time when they felt insecure, lost and unsure about the world around them.

Those threads where people post albums that are ruined for them because they remind them too strongly of an emotional low point in their lives are those songs times a million. I don't know if TPAB will be remembered like that for everyone but I can imagine quite a few people feeling that way about it in the future.

btw I do realise that some of that contradicts itself but I feel like its one of those "different folks, different strokes" kind of things where the importance and relevance of an album to you depends on where you were at at the time of its release.

Your response to music you discover is always affected by where you were at at the time of its release and that's like doubly so for music that is politically charged.
I imagine there are a lot of people who loved those 9/11 songs who are embarrassed by them now.

you mean

I can see it.

yes

maybe

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definitely not

Its crossover status will propel it to the top of many future best of lists.

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no

nice trips

nice dubs

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Nah. Funeral's the only classic Arcade Fire's made, and it's debatable as to whether they still have it in them to make another. Neon Bible, Suburbs, and even Reflektor all had that potential, but just that.

THIS ONE YOU PLEBS

hate it all you want, it's still true.

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I think people underestimate how influential this album, and CC's stuff in general, was.

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If these two albums weren't already considered classics, they will be in the future.

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ehhhhh one of but not necessarily the most important
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no
no but interesting
probably for normies
cult classic
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no
yes
I hope so
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yes
meh
maybe
yes
no
for normies
no
maybe
for normies
yeah probably
no

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Definite cult classic. In the same vein as IDLSIDGO.

youtube.com/watch?v=gdFoHdAIOQE

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you know it to be true you fucking fagbois

Still the greatest summer album ever

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never change Sup Forums

Is this considered a classic yet?

If the cover didn't seem so narcissistic towards the band and more aesthetically inclined Sup Forums would probably say it was genius.

It's a good album nevertheless.

Most of Bowie's albums are just different pictures of his own face, yet Sup Forums seems pretty pro-Bowie. Although I do agree Bowie's are generally more "aesthetically inclined".

I think it'll be more a cult classic

TBAP isnt even that political. I don't feel like Kendrick is pushing an agenda, he's just talking about personal and anecdotal experience. He never goes on any "Fuck Whitey" tirades and I think you guys exaggerate the politics of this album

>the politics of Butterfly will date it like milk.
Yeah, that's why Nina Simone, Bob Dylan, etc. are just so dated and non-classics. If anything being political makes an album more likely to become a classic.

Yeah, I just listened through the whole thing yesterday asking myself this question, and he does use the proverbial "fuck whities" a few times, but its never an agenda, its a cultural heritage/ anecdotal experience that he is reflecting upon.

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This.

i'd still fuck those tumblr moms

A cult classic. Or at least I hope so.
Nah, if any trap album becomes a classic (I don't think so) it will be Imperial.
I don't get the appeal. I don't think so.
I'm kinda sure about this one.
Sure, why not?
No. If anything The Seer but even so I don't think so.
It's an ok album but no.
Yeah, I don't even like them too much but yeah.
Yeaaaaah, no.
Yeah, I'm sure. Though not my favorite from them.

painstakingly remaking maggot brain will surely pay off, right?

i'm on the fence with 'butterfly' because it's production musically holds the album back because of the old school jazz funk. other than that the subject matter will sadly be timeless.

Are you sure? Alright, The Blacker The Berry and Wesleys Theory are definitely songs with political messages. And while he never says "fuck white people" he does sometimes say something questionable
> blue eyed devil with a fatass monkey
>monkey mouthed mother fucker
> etc

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ayy gambinlmao

>Nina Simone
2bh you just kind of proved my point with that one, ask anyone to name a Nina Simone album/song they'll most likely list a song or name I put a spell on you, Pastel Blues or Billie sings the blues
To be young black and gifted has broad appeal and a wide enough message to be enjoyed today but who the fuck is listening to Goddamn Mississippi day to day?

>Bob Dylan
Dylan was a clever and talented enough writer that he could encode a political message into songs that sounded so general.
You could easily listen to Blowin in the Wind your entire life and not know that the message pertains to the civil rights movement because the song is so steeped in broad philosophical questions
It resonates on a deeper level than just "hey racism is a bad thing" because the language and questions it uses and asks are so broad that they can be applied to anyone

Same thing for A Change is Gonna Come, these are all so broad that they can resonate with anyone going through hardship

There are anomalies, A Nation of Millions and Fear come to mind but they're considered classics because the music was so different from any other hip-hop at the time and it was the first time rappers talked about how frustrated and angry they felt

Also as an aside I feel like aggressiveness/anger is easily the most broad emotion that an artist can capture when done right, its why people still find Public Enemy so visceral and its why despite how petty some of what Kanye says on Yeezus is, you still kind of buy into his anger.

Is TPAB the update on Nation and Fear though?
its not visceral enough and who cares we already have a Nation

I'm not making an argument for or against TPAB. All I'm saying is that music being political lyrically doesn't exclude it from being considered a classic. Not at all.

If political music isn't a classic, it's not because it's political. It's because the music doesn't stand the test of time.

If the lyrics pertain to petty/small/short-term pop culture references, then it dates because no one in the future will get the references. But if it's about a significant enough cultural event/phenomenon, and especially if it directly influences that culture, then that album itself becomes part of cultural history. That promotes the label of "classic".

For example, Straight Outta Compton is a pretty meh album, I'd argue plain bad, and has sonically dated terribly. But it's a culturally significant album, and because of that plenty of people would consider it a classic. If that album wasn't political no one would remember it today.