Why is Sup Forums so triggered by critics?

I keep seeing people say that critics don't matter and people should just "like what they like" and form their own opinions/taste. I don't necessarily disagree, but think about it this way:

If you went on /lit/ and said "Gravity's Rainbow, Blood Meridian and Ulysses are all worthless trash, I think 50 Shades Of Grey and The Hunger Games are the greatest books ever written, and I don't care what critics say, that's MY OPINION" you would get laughed off of the fucking board.

the difference of course is that /lit/ understands the importance of criticism as a means of establishing a respectable canon of works that are important, groundbreaking, meaningful etc. in the most objective ways possible.

but Sup Forums and music fans in general seem to abide by the ridiculous "everything is subjective, all art is equal!!" thing, which just degrades art in general, making it worthless.

I totally get that people want to have "unique taste" to impress qts or whatever, but I can't take seriously someone who would try to argue that pop music should be as praised as classical or jazz or whatever. when people dissect pop music, they are looking for things that aren't there, and they are also looking for meaning in things that aren't actually related to the music.

it would be like trying to find some deep philosophical meaning in Twilight or Harry Potter when the reality is THERE IS NONE. if critics didn't exist, then any art medium would be an ocean of pure shit, because there would be no mediators to discern content of actual quality and value. there IS importance to critics.

average consumers are far too stupid to distinguish good art from bad art, that is why the role of the critic is crucial. the problem is, the critics that people follow are often complete jokes--it's no wonder Sup Forums gets angry at critics when the biggest ones they pay attention to are Fantano and Conde Nast-fork.

Is this a post or a fucking novel m8 ? didn't read.

>there would be no mediators to discern content of actual quality and value
I can do that myself i don't need some cult personality to do it for me.

I enjoy reading reviews and getting opinions from people, even if they're pretentious or stupid

But I'm basically laughed at if I ever bring it up so I don't

Most of your post is "here is why /lit/ is better than Sup Forums" but in response to your question: music is a lot more subjective than books. Sorry that there isn't an easy way to say what's "good music" and what's "bad music" like you can with books, but you'll just have to deal with forming your own opinion on things.

My biggest complaint with Sup Forumscore albums is that they're usually composed by people who are not really good composer.
When I listen to Ravel I know that every single note in there has a precise meaning, and that Ravel had a full understanding of every other alternative to that note. Nothing is left to chance, yet the result is sincere, personal and insightful (which is not what you would expect from such meticolous composers).
When I listen to Swans album, instead, I can see its beauty, essence and atmosphere, but at the same time I really can't believe that such bad composers are making such good music. Every theoretical aspect of that music is a mess, to a point where I'm almost 100% sure that these guys really don't know what they're doing, so they just go with the flow.
That is still worth something, but deep down I know that it will never be as valuable as what classical music has to offer. I can see through it, and I can see how these guys don't love music enough to study and live it. These guys are living of atmospheres instead, the notes bear no real meaning.
I could take any Swans song and switch notes and reverse every theme, and it will still make sense, since the core of that music is percussions, timbres and dynamics. These properties are inherent of most classical music too, but here every note has real meaning, and it can't be substituted without altering the meaning of the entire piece.

What I'm saying is that I want modern non-classical composer to study melody, harmony and counterpoint and really make something out of it.
By the way if you think that this will hurt the originality of these guys you are dead wrong: studying these fields will make you able to magnify every style of music and, more specifically, every sort of musical ideas, regardless of its context.

>That is still worth something, but deep down I know that it will never be as valuable as what classical music has to offer.
that's fucking retarded, and you are retarded. assigning value based on adherence to theory makes very little sense.

>that's fucking retarded, and you are retarded. assigning value based on adherence to theory makes very little sense.

Have you read the last thing I've written? There is no such thing as adherence to theory, if anythign a lack of theoretical knowledge causes more often than note blind adherence to theory, without the ability of seeing its limits

What I'm talking about is not ''adherence to theory'', what I'm talking about is that there is a complete lack of insight in the notes that are being used.
What you're talking about is one of those things that disgust me the most, which is why I can listen to maybe 3 or 4 prog albums without feeling disgusted.

I want musicians to be knowledgeable of every alternative to every possible choice they can make, and I want them to compose in the most deliberate way, knowing full well what they're doing and what else they could do. This is what I want, not adherence to theory.

Music is easier to consume, so it will attract a lot more crossboarder shits and normalfags.

On top of that, every board is regurgitated ideas written condescendingly and shit memes and assholery being repeated ad infinitum with small intermissions of insightful posts which is the second reason most people are here second to shitposting.

Also what said.

But a critic is just someone who's listened to a lot of music, correct? why do some people deserve to choose what's worth listening to, and others don't? And how would people decide who gets to choose what the masses should listen to?