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God damn Kimryd, incorporate the discord invite on the OP too lmao

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is it normal to have some days where you can just bang out some great peices and feel like you know exactly what your doing and other days just make shit and feel really directionless in terms of creation? how do i get in the first mode more often?

also

how do you guys create from emotion? do you pick a specific feeling and try to mimic that sonically?

i heard some people look at nature and try to replicate it but i'm not really sure how to do that either

tips pls


don't just say practice, i want some thought processes and new perceptions, on some metaphysical shit ya feel

im trying to run the guitar rig 5 plugin in ableton live 9 lite and can't get sound out.
guitar rig 5 works fine when run by itself.
please help

Little thing I did tonight. Still learning Ableton... Everything sounds too clean -- I want to make my tracks sound more organic (if even possible lol).

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what is the best Daw if I want limitless tuning possibilities when I play?

this is cool dude, try to use some automation on the delay, reverbs, cutoff, so your track could have more movement

>is it normal to have some days where you can just bang out some great peices and feel like you know exactly what your doing and other days just make shit and feel really directionless in terms of creation?

Yeah that's normal senpai.

>how do i get in the first mode more often?

It depends on your mood, if you have a clear head and a good mood you'll be able to focus on it better.

>how do you guys create from emotion?

Try to think of the music in your head first. People forget to do that and they end up just randomly putting shit in the piano roll with 0 aim/direction.

What's the issue?

It's cute senpai. you're gonna need better samples/synths.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "tuning possibilities"

>What's the issue?
i add the plugin it opens up guitar rig i chose a preset but can't hear anything while playing or recording.

you don't know about microtonality?

r8, tell me if it's good or shit

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Are you sure audio is sending in Ableton?

Oh, I do but I only sometimes use it as an effect so I go a step further to do it with Ableton but if you want a DAW suited specifically for that I can't help you. I see this question pop up a lot here.

Sounds like a very stretched sample with a lowpassed kickdrum.

19 TET is the future. It actually offers more opportunities for consonances than 12 TET

It's a sample of a sample of a sample that I made from scratch tho

I use it sometimes when I tune Arabic strings for example.

Sounds trippy dawg.

It sounds as if the listener's upstairs and there's a rave going on in the basement.

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Hows the editing on this? I've been listening to this is repeat for about an hour so it sounds funny to me. I'd like to get someone else's input. Might try to chop up another part of the song to add

youtu.be/VODiDl8k3Sc

something i started the other day. grabbed a whole bunch of synths i never get to use and piled them into one song. i have no idea what to do with the bass synth and and drum pattern tho. i have no idea what kinda bass to go for and i want a less breakish beat but i suck at it. any feedback is gravy
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I moved out for grad school and I only have a small laptop here, left my rig at home. I want to make music again but I dont have too much HDD space so I'm limiting my VSTs to the bare minimum, just Waves, FabFilter, PodFarm (for guitars/bass), AD drums, and massive as my main synth.

However, I need a DAW. I've mostly used Cubase before but it very heavy. I've been trying Reaper but I'm finding the workflow pretty annoying. It takes too many clicks to do what I want. I also miss the drum editor from cubase.

Has anyone used Reaper? Should I keep trying?

>Are you sure audio is sending in Ableton?
this thing seems to response to my playing
and i have no problem recording my guitar without the plugin.

Check your routing inside GR. Post some pics maybe.

how do i do it?
when i open the plugin in ableton it gives me this screen but i cant find any worthwhile option in it.

I haven't used GR in a while, but most amp sims are the same. First check that the plug in is receiving audio, so the input meter on the top should be lighting on.

If it doesn't, then there's something wrong with the routing in Ableton's side. I am not familiar enough with that DAW to help you, but you should be able to google for that.

The way VSTs work is they get sent a collection of note values from the host DAW, integers between 0-127, and then the VST converts that into sound however it wants, they never get sent actual frequencies.

So you'll need VSTs designed with microtonal music in mind rather than a particular DAW, or you could make your own in Reaktor/MaxMSP/code.

How about gritty glitch mob style bass?

If you want the least amount of clicks use Ableton.

You didn't load a preset senpai, you have to double click.

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remix of a friends track i posted, worked on it a bit more. hows it sound now

it also happens when i load a preset this was just for the screenshot sakes.

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it worked,thank you jesus

>Ableton

How comfortable is its piano roll / midi editing? The interface looks kinda strange, is it easy to get used to?

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Finally got the Loop nice and tight, now i'm trying to make the kick stand out more. Any suggestions? Am I even doing this right? I have this EQ on the whole track

How do you get that sound like you chopped up a bit of the song and repeated it a couple of times -like in Justice's Waters of Nazareth at 0:02 to 0:08, 0:46 to 0:48, and 1:02 to 1:03? youtube.com/watch?v=1SEgoi7kjw8 can you do that in a DAW or is it a hardware thing?

What do you mean you have that EQ on the whole track? Are you passing the whole track though it or just the kick drum during the whole song? You should cut from 0 to 40 Hz, boost from 80 Hz to 250 Hz and boost again from 1 KHz to 2-3 KHz and cutting from 14 KHz upwards to get a punchy kick without muddying the mix. You can also put the kick's volume higher in the mix

Thanks man.
Its a sample from this song: youtu.be/wHzs0d-cBuI

So I can't just EQ the kick, Its all one sample. Should i isolate the kick in a separate track and add it to the whole song?

You can either do it manually, as you say, by chopping up the track and repeating, or use an effect like Ableton's beat repeat or Izotope's stutter edit.

Cut deep lows, as said. Don't trust your ears too much on this one unless you have a good sub. Use a fq analyzer is necessary.

Boost between 80- 200 hz, but not too much, try to find the sweet spot, where your kick resonates more. If you have a nice bass track you should make room for it here.

I'd also cut heavily from 500 to about 2kz. You need to make room for everything else.

If you're feeling fancy, you can add distortion or saturation for high freqs. Just a bit to give it crunch.

Don't forget to compress, kick drums die without compression. Med attack (~35 ms), short release, generous ratio, hard knee.

Much appreciated, gonna work on it now

resample the track and just duplicate the parts you want like they did there

how shit is this

mediafire.com/file/c55r3thal5u7tyt/CJM021_-_Oh_No,_It's_ASIO!.mp3

Wtf cut up to 40Hz on a kick? Its peak is around 50~70Hz, dont do that wtf.

are these drums & bass ready for a final version?
the bass is too sloppy it kills the swing, or does it get by?

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any ideas for arrangement? there will be rhythm and lead guitars over it

Timing sounds weird. It feels as if drums are lagging and bass is rushing. You could humanize the drums a bit, or just play better bass. Practice a bit with a click track.

It's not to much btw, you could get by with what you have if you're not too anal.

What equipment would you recommend to a person who wants to start recording and making their own music at home?

What kind of music? What gear do you have now?

is there a button on reaper that oscilates/humanizes the midi timing a bit?
i really lack practice on bass and with a click
>anal
lol ive heard some sloppy bass playing on band's albums so i dont find mine too bad, but want to know if its unlistenably bad to others, but it isnt to you, so, great

It's not that bad, I've certainly heard and used worse bass tracks.

I am on laptop speakers so I can't comment on the tone, but it sounds like it will be hard to mix. How did you record it?

recorded it directly to the pc and used amplitube fx as a ampeg svt

i think i picked too far from the bridge and the sound lost its presence and body, for a hollow tone.
boosted some mids on the amp to compensate but its far from making it up

Audio interface and mics are good first steps. Scarlett 2i2/2i4s are affordable solutions, my 2i2 lasted me years. SM58 is a good do-it-all mic to start with, only thing it might struggle with is a bass amp and at this point you would be better DIing and using a modeller.

I don't know what kind of tone you were going for, but (on this shitty speakers) it sounds like it has too many mids. You'll probably need to cut a lot of it when you mix it.

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Thoughts on this? Not sure if I'm happy with the bass tone yet, if anyone here has a sub would appreciate knowing how it sounds out of it.

I thought I sort of knew music theory, but trying to recreate this super simple thing has me stumped
clyp.it/4idu03cp (Scooter - Beautiful Vibes, rave piano chords)
What exactly is this? A pentatonic scale? 7 chord? I can't quite seem to find these exact chords.
I guess I could just use a wav-to-midi program...
Also, is FL keys + equalizer + reverb enough to achieve this sound?

anyone have experience with univox tape delay units? I want one for my moog and there are a few on ebay

You could basically achieve this sound with those, yes. Sounds like its a 7th, but I'm not %100 with that.

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still a fucking long way to go, but it's a start, any tips or feedback welcome

What are the main differences from Studio One 3 and Ableton? I've been thinking about switching to Studio One for a while.

Can anyone recommend a good grand piano vst? (stock Ableton piano is feces)

I wrote a thing for the piano and i'm trying to take my midi/sheet music and make it sound like someone is actually playing the piano. Currently adjusting velocities n shieet

arturia piano v

I need a decent audio interface. Is pic relative good?

I'm not very experienced, but EWQL Colossus has a Steinway B which I think sounds great

Addictive keys sounds great, though it is quite heavy.

Ah its the opposite of what i guessed. I had the mids boosted on the amp, i think around 450hz. I felt it too mid-y to. Just backing it to 5 helps. You dont think that tone of picking too far from the bridge will lose its definition on the mix?

This is the tone i'm after, but i went far from it on that clyp. If you have an idea to get closer to this tone or a better tone in any way i can re-record it with your tips, theres no special licks to lose.

youtube.com/watch?v=7e_X69EFxuE

I had one of those and it broke in a month, probably just bad luck to be honest but it worked really well. I have a focusrite now and it's lasted for 2 years so I would totally recommend checking those out

I'll see if I can try all of these.

Thanks senpaitachi

Been producing for like 3-4 years and now after producing generic trap music for like over a year i feel like i've completely forgotten everything i knew about making good sounding music that isn't trap... so i guess it's just back to square one

What do you all think? I've been trying to figure out how to get the sub to sit right in the mix and I think I've got it?

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I've had a 2i2 for about two years now, hasn't given me a single issue. Can recommend.

what exactly broke?
from my experience the RME service is excellent

there's a vst called piano one or something. its free and it gets the job done.

i like it quite a bit, it as a very relaxing tropical vibe to it. But imo you need to bring out you sub more and put a shelf on your higher frequencies to make it seem a lil less muffled

very comfortable

Bretty gud. A word of advice, maybe give the high vocal bits some more reverb or maybe layer them to make them stand out a bit more.

Quite good. I think the pad/synth is too high overall. And the vocals need more compression and some riding, maybe too.

Not bad, what kind of music is this exactly.

Everything in Ableton is really fast, but I don't find any of it "comfy" if that's what you're asking, also FL's piano roll is objectively better.

The mix sounds really muddy, also the drums have some sort of tempo issue.

What kind of music do you wanna make?

D minor ---> G major 2nd inversion ---> A minor 2nd inversion (F Major chord at the end), this is the cycle. And ye, that 'll be enough, I'm not sure you even need reverb.

That sample is very muddy and it gets repetitive after a while.

Not bad senpai, not a fan of the vocals tho

i know literally nothing about music theory
so how's this?

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Pretty good m8. I don't really have any constructive criticism, just thought it was good

I just pirated FL Studio 12.

Reason for piracy: I live in a poor country where average monthly wage is $300. I am 14. Have no job. I couldn't shell out much money.
I don't use AdBlock for YouTube musicians. If I could pay for it, I would have.

But I discovered that my FL doesn't have any plugins at all. Where can I get the plugins?

Can someone point me to where I can get cracked Image-Line plugins or good free plugins?

Thanks.

>I am 14
Come back in 4 years and I gotchu

This is good shit man, I'm really digging this vibe.

thx guys but like how do you feel about the melody of the sub. wanted it to change in the other half of the progression but couldn't get it to work

I like it man, change it and post another clyp I'll let you know.

Alan Walker started at 14 and he's now 18 and millionaire. Why wait?

>average monthly wage is $300
Comrade?

I started a type beat page on youtube, anyone else do this?

same answer as always: any. just learn how to use it. or buy chordbot with a mono midi cable

after years of doing ALL my sound design in Massive i'm contemplating buying Serum... should i???

Nobody is gonna just you for pirating music software. Pretty much everybody does it unless they are actually earning money from music.

I'm pretty sure you can find good plug ins wherever you found FL studio. My advice is to pick a simple suit and stick with that. At the beginning you don't want to have too many options. Pick a synth, eq, compressor, reverb, delay and some modulation like chorus.

completely normal. I can have that for weeks where I cant get create anything worthwhile, those days I end up doing sampling, patch creating, garden work in my files.

I just end up taking a week off from music production because I've burnt myself out and I need a break.

Then I have weeks where everything just clicks and I am inspired, creative and shit just gets slapped together and sound great.

>doing all of your sound design in a single vst
gross

>I'm pretty sure you can find good plug ins wherever you found FL studio.
well i just activated the demo version with a crack my friend gave me so i have no idea :( can you point to me some sites?

>Pick a synth, eq, compressor, reverb, delay and some modulation like chorus.
Can you recommend to me one for each?

i don't have any other good vst i'm sorry

Thanks for the feedback! I figured the vocals didn't need much processing but after listening to it a bit on other speakers, they definitely need something o.0

What was meant by adding some "riding"?

wait and save for cyber monday this year. most of the good vst's were 50% off or more.

because this whole site is 18+

other than that, keep doing music production and learn to play the piano.

No seriously, learn it, it will do wonders for your composition.

i already play the piano

Riding generally means automating the volume or other paramters to change based on the needs of different parts of the song, the term "riding" comes from when you would manually have to move a fader on a desk.

What's wrong with this? The range from 50 to 70 KHz is unaffected, I just cut from 0 to 40 because you can't really hear these frequencies and they just muddy up the mix

then make music and come back when you have something to show

Thanks. I thought there was a way to do that automatically on a DAW, I guess not

Yes you should seperate it. But if you want to leave the whole sample as it is and just want the kick to stand out more, you can boost from 60 to 250 a bit. But this will boost the bass (instrument) too, so be careful.

you have no point. all you have is old age. pathetic.

I like it. It could sound better if you boosted up the bass frequencies and cut some of the higher ones, like 14 KHz upwards. Also your kick could sound better with a little bit of reverb but not too much. You should send me the song if you ever release it ;)