How did you get into jazz

I'm probably the biggest jazz noob that ever existed, but the whole genre interests and intrigues me, so I'm trying to get into it
I tried some Miles Davs, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Wayne Shorter, but the problem is that all of them sound the same to me. I can't make differences between these, and I'm really bored for most of them. The only one who got my attention was Chet Baker, because of his vocals which add something very particular to his songs.
So how should I manage not to be bored anymore by jazz artists

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If you like Chet Baker, you won't like jazz.

this is rly persuasive

>I tried some Miles Davs, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Wayne Shorter, but the problem is that all of them sound the same to me. I can't make differences between these, and I'm really bored for most of them.
oh boy

>only one who got my attention was Chet Baker
OH BOY

honestly you won't like hard bop, modal jazz, and stuff related to that at all. maybe explore some other vocal jazz stuff, i'd give you recs but I don't like chet baker and i know very little about the genre besides the essentials.

here's jazz that will not bore you and sounds very different
Andrew Hill - Compulsion!!!!!
Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman
Peter Brotzmann - Machine Gun
Joe McPhee - Underground Railroad
Anthony Braxton - For Alto
Sun Ra - Space is the Place
Keith Jarrett - Koln Concert

not all of these are good, but none of them are boring or same sounding.

this is true

thanks mate

I didn't mean that the artists i quoted could sound boring or something, but because of my lack of knowledge about the purview i can't hear or realize the differences and subtleties, i guess the entry level jazz is what appeals me the most right now
I'll try what you quoted

Try some newer artists like Robert Glasper and Kamasi Washington

Sounds to me like you are listening at only a very superficial level. If you only listen to the most basic elements of the music, yes, a lot of the 'classic' jazz does sound more or less the same.

The trick is to listen ACTIVELY and to almost imagine you are a participant in the music. If you try to absorb it all on first listen, you'll probably not really hear/understand any of it. It's best to start out focusing mostly on one instrument. If you play an instrument, it's not that hard to do. If you don't, then you might want to start out focusing on the drummer and listening to how the patterns he's playing relate to what the rest of the band is doing. At surface level, it may seem like he is playing a very simple pattern, but listen more closely and you will hear variations in that pattern that correspond to the other players in the band.

Elvin Jones and Tony Williams are two great drummers to listen to who played with Davis, Hancock, Coltrane and Shorter, so maybe you want to prioritize the albums that have either of those drummers.

Also, don't be tricked by Sup Forums into only listening to "classic jazz." A lot of times more contemporary jazz can be somewhat more accessible to new listeners, and some of it is really just as good as the classics.

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I got into jazz through free and avantgarde after being disinterested with the highly regarded albums by the artist you posted. I did return to them later to which I enjoyed them but it's still not amazing to me. But I did find this Jazz band that quickly became one of my favorites despite not being the free or avantgarde that I got into.
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I got into it through playing music. First I was into improvisational rock like Grateful Dead, Hendrix, King Crimson then moved onto Prog Rock and Fusion and finally just straight ahead jazz. I honestly don't see what non-musicians get out of jazz, 90% of the appealis appreciating the different ways a musician navigates through harmonic and rhythmic structures. I guess you can pick up a little bit of that, but you're missing out on most of the real depth.

It's like judging the flavor of a steak solely by it's smell.

I was in jazz band in high school/college

>The only one who got my attention was Chet Baker
Ha!, you're fucked.

I'm not OP but is there a chart/essential guide for "spiritual jazz" (stuff like A Love Supreme, Karma, Black Saint)? I've already gone through most of the albums on the RYM list.

thanks for the tips mates, i'm going back to it with some different thoughts
haven't seen the chart before, it'll be helpful tho

"spiritual jazz" isn't a real thing, it's a bullshit marketing term white record critics came up with. What makes Pharoah Sanders any more "Spiritual" than Louis Armstrong.

>TFW I only like sun ra and cal tjader
Is there hope for me yet?

what would you call that stuff then?

this

i'd recommend albert ayler - spirtual unity. It's the most pleb jazz release of course but the melodies are so accessible and easy to understand.

check out Monk's Dream because Monk is god

yea give it time

Listen to Kind of Blue. After a while, listen to it again, and again. Like many jazz records, it takes a while to appreciate, to know what they're doing, otherwise you might indeed not really notice how spectacular it is, how good, how organic, etc. If you memorised the solo's in So What, you'll probably love it. Give Black Saint & the Sinner Lady a try as well.

I like extended chords and harmony so that got my foot in the door.

>Miles Davs, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Wayne Shorter,

All those guys were part of the same scene and played together on each other's albums. Shorter was a straight-up Coltrane disciple, so yeah - they sound alike. You also chose the era and genre of jazz that is - one could argue - the most "advanced"... certainly an era that can be difficult to digest for noobs.

If you like vocals, try the best jazz vocalist there ever was - Ella Fitzgerald. Or, Rat Pack era Sinatra with the Basie Band is mainstream but also legendary jazz.

Or how 'bout some other Italian-Americans, only this time with humor. Keely Smith and Louis Prima, for instance was "light" but their group could REALLY swing. (Prima's style was a light-hearted throwback to Satchmo, fyi.) If these two cuts don't make you smile, then just listen to more of that sad sack Chet Baker while you slit your wrists. Remember: "down the road, not across the street."

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