Antichrist Superstar is better than the Downward Spiral

Antichrist Superstar is better than the Downward Spiral.

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you're a funny guy

No.

>tripfags having shit taste
LIKE POTTERY

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I WANNA DO SOMETHING THAT MATTERS

BUT FLYS WILL LAY THEIR EGGS
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t. Brian

It really is.

Saying it sarcastically won't prevent it from being true, Trent.

hey

stop that

I don't think anybody's ever denied that Manson was a much better lyricist than Trent at that point in his career.

Not an argument.

TDS > ACSS

no, heh

There's only about 3 good songs on TDS, whereas, ACSS is a cohesive experience that tells a complex story while managing to make every song catchy and memorable, while switching moods and phases throughout the album. The best part is, it's not even Manson's best album. :}

We know.

it IS Manson's best album.

Nah, Portrait of an American Family and Mechanical Animals have even better songs. I'll admit it's probably the best of his concept albums though, the story and the way it's told in ACSS just barely pulls ahead of the storytelling in Mechanical Animals.

>a cohesive experience that tells a complex story while managing to make every song catchy and memorable, while switching moods and phases throughout the album.
Sounds like TDS

Portrait probably has better songs, yes, but Mechanical Animals certainly doesn't. In fact it kinda reeks of Manson trying to get Bowie-sempai to notice him instead of Trent.

Except not every song on TDS is catchy AND memorable. It's usually one or the other. And the story of TDS isn't very complex, it's just a guy being sad and pissed-off about nothing in particular, and doing one stupid thing after another. It's very small-scale and the only thing that prevents it from being immediately understandable is that there's almost no narration.

TDS is somewhat cohesive, but there is are a lot of filler parts and most of the songs aren't all that memorable or interesting. I find myself coming back to TDS a lot less than Manson's Triptych because there's just less to it. Also, the story in TDS is a lot more simple than ACSS and can be figured out in just a few listens, whereas, every time I listen to ACSS I notice a new element or perspective on a section of the story or its message/theme as a whole.

>tfw the main reason why I re-listen to TDS is to see if this time around I'll enjoy it as much as the rest of Sup Forums

and every time there's a few things that put me off or break my interest.

The first 5 songs on Mechanical Animals are perfect, I can't name a better streak of songs on any album I've ever listened to. The last 4 are also really really strong as well. The mid section, I'll admit, is the weakest part of the album but it's still really strong too. The only weakness that ACSS has that puts MA above it is that ACSS has more songs that focus on the story and aren't quite as catchy and don't have quite as much replay value as all the songs on MA. It's cool to finally see someone on Sup Forums who likes Portrait a lot though, I've never found anyone until now who would admit that Portrait has the best songs in his discography.

This. I still like the album, I gave it an 8/10. However, I just don't have the desire to come back to it all that often, it hasn't grow on me much at all since my 5th listen of it. Whereas, I'm on the 50-something listen to ACSS and it just blows my mind every time as to how something so cohesive and good was made, with so much replay value that I still thoroughly enjoy all the songs despite having memorized all the lyrics and riffs from listening to it so many times.

Actually MA is far less catchy as a whole than ACSS. Each half of MA starts off very strong but drifts off into one melancholic ballad after another. After a while, all the doom and gloom and self-pity just kind of loses its impact. And since there isn't as much variety and narrative substance as in ACSS, there's less to be entertained by.

In ACSS, the ballads have a lot more impact, not just because they're more dramatic but also because their introspectiveness has a more tangible narrative backdrop, they're not just vague reflexions on angst, hope and dissociation.

mfw Antichrist Superstar is leftovers from TDS

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Fair point, but for me they're all pretty jarringly melodic yet saddening at the same time. Yeah, that's one of ACSS strongest points, that the riffs and vocal tone sway and change with the story which in turn tells the story better than it could be told through, say, a book or something.

I agree, when I was a teenager Mechanical Animals was my favorite but these days I realized Antichrist Superstar is superior

I don't get it.

same
and it's all the more surprising because ACSS purposefully sounds like a shambling frankenstein monster of glam, new wave and deathrock clichés crudely patched together with industrial sound engineering, whereas TDS clearly sounds a lot more controlled and meticulously arranged, but the result is full of jarring mood shifts and questionable dramatic transitions, almost like it was written by very different, but equally skilled composers who couldn't agree on what it was supposed to sound like.

It's a bit like in Advent Children. After his death, Rozz Williams was reformed by the stream of mako into two distinct beings, but neither of them was as powerful as the original.

And unlike in Advent Children they ended up tearing each other apart and dying because they both realized that neither could be the true Rozz Williams successor.

>tfw trent is a nobody with only half a good album

tumbs up 4 brien warnar!

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Manson is an egocentric fool who thinks he can get away with ridiculing himself in public by being self-aware and ironic.

Trent is a self-important dickhead who avoids doing spectacular and cool things just to show everyone that he's "better than that" and that he's "a serious person".

>tfw Trent got no bitches while Manson has always been drowning in bitches

they should do a buddy comedy together

>Brian and Trent's excellent adventure

>When you have a terrible case of social anxiety and you try to avoid live tv because you stutter and you still reduce the qt host to giggles.

that did him no good

bitches were his downfall


but then again Trent's model family man gimmick isn't working great for him either

Already forgetting your past Brian?

kek, yeah, that reminds me, Reznor's waifu is clearly him trying to compensate for being a weak loser his whole life and now he just got gains so he settled for the first latina whore he could find who's clearly just in it for the money.

Everyone has always known that Manson likes to fuck around because you can't predict him because he's literally a psycho. He made out with Twiggy in the Dope Hate video. That being said, he was never gay, he was just alpha that all the girls AND the guys wanted to hop on his spooky dick.

In an alternate reality, Trent went further down the goth rabbithole, never quit cocaine, never cut his hair, has receded closer to the underground and drops one industrial deathrock masterpiece after another because his voice has deepened and his guitar skills improved year after year.

Meanwhile, after the critical acclaim of the Resident Evil soundtrack, Manson cleaned up his act, started a family with Dita, and is now famous as a successful score composer for horror movies.

At least Brian's not insecure about his crossdressing tendencies.

That's probably because, unlike Trent, it's not his shameful sex fetish, it's just his way of imitating Rozz.

Okay Brian, you keep telling yourself that after you finish wondering why it was that you somehow turned Rose Mcgowan into a full blown dyke.

>tfw Trent was always a screechy little faggot while Manson always had the superior deep voice that all the bitches love since the 1990 demos

>drops one industrial deathrock masterpiece after another
>his guitar skills improved year after year

Is this a joke?

What was it like having Courtney Love laugh at your penis?
is that why you started tucking it between your legs during sex?

>Manson has always been drowning in bitches
>cuts himself and becomes a drug addict because his teenage gf broke up with him
haha what a faggot

The funny part is you keep addressing us as Brian, when we all know Trent is a loser who is confirmed to still browse Sup Forums at his age

considering he still sounds as nasal and whiny as ever, and that the last interesting thing he did with a guitar was a basic doom riff, no, it's not a joke.

Brian's still mad that David Lynch preferred working with a professional.

Brian: Mister Lynch! Oh oh Mister Lynch! I wrote a song for your movie!

David: Gee, that's real swell son. Why don't you got and sit over in that corner. Maybe if you're real quiet I'll let you have a cameo in my movie.

Brian: YAY!!!

>Brian
who?

I'm glad Trent found happiness.

Sup Forums AND Sup Forums

Brian and Trent are just two kids desperately fighting to get their various sempais to notice them

If YOU had an underage gf, wouldn't you be devastated too? This shit is very rare, you see, Manson has true taste, as he had tasted all stripes and shapes of bitches, and he came to the conclusion, like many of us here, that women are in their prime in their mid teens. Trent can clearly only bag used up whores and only after he changed his entire aesthetic, body, hair, clothing, attitude, everything, to achieve that, because he so desperately wanted girls to notice him. Manson acted like a literal disgusting skinny freak and he was swarmed with bitches because he is an alpha.

Both you faggots stole your shtick from me.

>writes shitty noise-tier garbage
>some real musicians take some influence from it and change it and make it actually good
Gee, sounds like he got KEK'D

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Skinny Puppy is lesser known because they just aren't that good.

all three of you stole your shtick from Rozz Williams

he was eating dead cats and making industrial music dressed in S&M drag ten years before any of you did

Me on the left
I was internally suppressing another panic attack from my severe social anxiety, wooh, glad I could get out of that one and get back to """my""" autistic children

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Why do people like to roleplay as Trent Reznor here?

Why do people like to believe that Trent Reznor posts here?

yeah

props to them for kicking off harsh EBM though

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All of you faggots stole your lo-fi shtick and live stage devil stuff from me

checking them

>Talking about Marilyn Manson at all

Honestly sounds like they created the entire genre of trap right then and there

If he was an alpha he'd just get another one instead of crying about it and cutting himself for years.
He's a beta bitch boy

>wow! You're way smaller than in the magazines, I thought you were a big guy

>Manson becomes a melty doughboy
>Trent becomes too swole to control

TDS > ACSS

>be trent
>get anchor waifu straight out of Mexico border immigration control
>"haha, stupid MANSON, you'll never know how great it feels to get tied down to and cucked by a TRUE woman and spend all your money on her after you spent years changing your entire appearance and personality to get her to be willing to be around for more than 5 minutes so she can successfully cuck you for the small amount of royalties you're still getting from TDS"

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loving those threads

>treznor
literally who is this numale on the left and how much did he pay for that cheap escort?

Right? What the fuck is happening? Is this guys music seriously worth discussing and am I missing out on it?

Damn, the MMIDF is out in force tonight.

his old music is seriously good, yeah

Guys, this thread is LIVING PROOF of the fact that the reign of Trentfags banter has fallen and now a new reign of Mansonbros have taken over and successfully BTFO all the remaining Trentfags. By golly, I can't stop laughing at all these sad keks still sucking off their closet faggot after he hasn't made a good album since '94.

So where is Say10?

Everything he did from '94-00 is god tier. His recent effort in Pale Emperor was pretty good too.

trent go back to brushing your dog's teeth
you wouldn't want the state to take away your children, would you? All those years spent bragging about being a grown-ass man who wears suits would be all for nothing

He's perfecting it, as he's now making really good music again so he's not going to release it until it's exactly how he wants it and how it needs to be.

Are you telling me the greasy fat goth girls in my class in hs were listening to G O O D music all this time? I need to hear this

Why are Manson and Reznor defense forces fighting exactly? This is what Al wants. He hates that he's been made irrelevant in his own genre by the next generation.

>71790220
they were, but they didn't appreciate it for the right reasons.
They only liked it because it sounded rebellious and because they wanted to fuck Manson. Which is precisely one of the things Manson mocked repeatedly in his early albums.

For example, The Golden Age of Grotesque is a parody of everything trendy among mallgoths. And of course, they loved it when it came out.

>fbi busts down trent's door
>find him listening to ACSS and crying, holding a notched whip
>he's wearing his old BDSM gear
>keeps whispering to himself "you can do better, you can do better, you're better than this"
>his autistic children are found in the basement
>basement is filled with posters of Spooky Kids era Manson with writing on all of them featuring things like "we could have been together" and "I loved you so much"
>his wife later testifies that at the time of the arrest, she was at Tyrone's house and was unaware that Trent was actually gay
IMAGINE THE KEKKING

industrial rock isn't Al's genre, The Cassandra Complex were doing it before.

better yet

>Trent's kids grow up
>they start a Spooky Kids tribute band
>they hire Twiggy as a bassist
>they make it sound primitive and badly produced on purpose just to piss off their dad and his silly fantasies of an ideal happy family
>Trent still pays them all their gear because he really doesn't want them to leave him

>they perform on stage wearing Trent's dress

I didn't say it was his, I'm suggesting Al's ego would consider it his.

This shit posting has gone too far. I can't even tell if you guys are genuine or are just fucking around. Either way, I'll throw myself into it.

If you cannot get into TDS and think it's inferior to Antichrist Supertar due to that, then you're kind of a pleb. Since TDS's better in every single way, the story it tells is not only much more cohesive but timeless, meanwhile Marilyn's work has timed awfully.

Don't get me wrong, Antichrist Superstar is a good, kind of fun album, yet that's it. The Downard Spiral is a master piece which is and always will be rembered as such, same for The Fragile. It is an album which contains Hurt which Johnny Fucking Cash covered. Marilyn never would dream of getting such respect form such a high figure.

Since Marilyn is not worhty of it, he is a mess who has completelly fallen, meanwhile Trent has been pumping out critically acclaimed albums, both by fans and critics and has evolved both as a person and an artist, stuff like The Downward Spiral, The Fragile, Year Zero and Hesitation Marks, that kind of scale is something Marilyn will never ever reach in his entire career.

This is Marilyn Manson live

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And this is Trent Reznor live.

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You can meme all you want. Trent is the man with various awards behind him and talent, he is the man who was on tour with David Bowie who sang his own songs.


Sorry, Marilyn fanbois, your choice in husbando is poor, but you must stay loyal, which we will respect. But maybe you should leave as he has not given you much anymore, let's way how he will prove himself with Say10, I doubt it though, I doubt it will reach Trent's EP NTAE.

YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME

Reminder Trent has three Eurasian sons and in 16 years or less the Reznor boys are going to make Elliot Rogers look like nothing

On the flipside, he does have a Eurasian daughter now.