Why is it not allowed to teach creationist theories at school while (unproven) evolution theories are allowed to be taught at school?
They're both theories. They both don't have conclusive proof. They both are highly disputed in the scientific world.
Samuel Miller
You're a complete, utter moron, OP.
Kys.
Eli Wood
great argumentation
Carter James
>Where are the millions of these?
Here's one
William Myers
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Jordan Reed
>unproven Kek. Evolution is observed in vitro and even used engineering now. >that picture Strawman. Or maybe the american education is to fault, because that's not how it works.
Noah Morris
Bait thread.
James King
>Evolution is observed in vitro and even used engineering now. and still there is no definite proof
That's the reason why it's called a THEORY
Brandon Torres
I see your problem OP, that one on the left isn't a monkey, it's a distant ancestor of which there is fossil evidence...
Luke Wood
Ok stop. Please stop with lies. It is unproven. Yes, evidence highly supports it but its still a theory, now a law. So stop with your shit. You probably thing gravity is proven and climate change too.
Aaron Morgan
Isn't gravity also a theory?
Landon Anderson
extinction was once a natural process we as a species couldn't be bothered to stop
also somebody post the futurama joke I can't be fucking bothered
also which creation story are we teaching I quite like Shinto's myself
>look up Richard Lenski's work with e.coli >then claim macro v. micro evolution
and finally admit to yourself that sometimes taking the bait can be cathartic
Michael Edwards
>They both are highly disputed in the scientific world.
Nope
>That's the reason why it's called a THEORY
Obvious bait is obvious
Eli Stewart
>Nope but it is, just read some non Jewish sources
James Jenkins
oh, great it's already dissolved into semantics
Jack Davis
yeah, there could be a different explanation for it
Zachary Adams
>observed >and still there is no definite proof Kek. >theory Check out how falsifiability works. If you're that much of an anti-science fag, here's a tl;dr for you: all science is wrong. It is experimentally reproduceable. Not just adaptation, completely new genes are being produced. And genetical methods are one of the most used optimization methods in engineering.
Charles Cook
Oh look, another uneducated idiot who thinks hes smart because he read something on the internet once
Jace Bell
When did you see a monkey pooping out a human?
Eli Mitchell
Wasted dubs and you do know that survival of the fittest killed off your underlined species
James Thompson
I have a phd in evolution, its still just a theory. So stop spreading your retard rant
Adrian Howard
and yet enough people in the states believe it that politician have to pretend to take it seriously to be elected
Carson Morales
>still a theory, now a law There are no "laws". Name a "law"(something pre-20th century probably) and it's 100% been disproven by a "theory". Cool strawman. >still just a theory Check out how falsifiability works.
Ethan Ramirez
All yo dum ass white peeples aint kno shit
William Sullivan
>Cool strawman. So, you don't know a single case of a monkey giving birth to a human and yet you still believe it?
David Ward
Keep going. I will answer once you start asking questions on the subject.
Nolan Parker
this
Jordan Jackson
>not knowing what a scientific theory is this hard
Hunter Hall
Okay, explain me this.
>animal A mates with another animal A >give for some reason birth to an animal which is so different from animal A that it cannot mate with animal A anymore, let's call it animal B >but this mutant is not dying out because all other animals A also give birth to such animal B for no reason
Where is the logic?
Gabriel Gomez
listen man, you don't have to take on everyone here all at once
also whoevers going on about falsifiability please just briefly explain yourself it might be helpful instead of just telling everyone to go read Karl Popper
Henry Morgan
>doesn't understand the fundamentals of evolution >tries to debate it's "logic"
come on man, at least try and know what you are talking about
Elijah Murphy
Evolution makes no sense anyway, survival if the fittest makes no sense as an origin of life, matter does not build itself into systems to survive because it is already alive, whatever system it is in does not matter. It is like saying, we exist because we existed and things that exist strive to exist because if they didn't they wouldn't exist.
Easton Bailey
>They both are highly disputed in the scientific world
ITT: retards who don't know that evolution is still a THEORY
Alexander Thomas
All science is theory based on observed evidence
>Still goes in all fields
Noah Sullivan
>All science is theory based on observed evidence So you do agree that it is just a theory :)
Benjamin Scott
So's gravity gayboi. You don't even know what a theory is.
Kevin Russell
Sure. But no one has any evidence of god, so he's not even a theory.
Ayden Fisher
This is either low quality bait, or OP is retarded. Maybe both.
Levi Lewis
ITT: retards who finally agree that evolution is just a THEORY
Owen Bell
You sir are the reason mankind is being held back. You and your autist kind must be cleansed of this planet. Kys you stupid fucking hick. Do not reproduce, I reward you no cigar.
Jose Hughes
First of all, that's not how it works. You need to understand the concept of ecological niches. If there's a space in the world that no other species occupies, there will appear a new species that occupies that place. "Place" is used figuratively here - it might mean not a physical place, but also an unused food source for example. Now here's how it really works: If there's a There's an ancestor A. It gives birth to B and C. If B is less adapted to the current eco niche than C, it dies. BUT if B finds a new niche, it continues to live and further evolve to adapt to that new niche. So, we didn't precisely evolve from monkeys - we and monkeys evolved from a common monkey-like ancestor, while modern monkey out-evolved their ancestors we out-evolved our ancestors. Just like there are Neanderthal fossils there are primitive monkey fossils. And it's just one of the ways for a new species to appear, there are many others. >Check out how falsifiability works. If you're that much of an anti-science fag, here's a tl;dr for you: all science is wrong.
Hudson Thomas
This is not the regular chimpanzee we are Accustomed; it's what researchers call Pan Prior, the last commum ancester between man and Bonobos
Christopher Clark
In cotton fields
Jeremiah Cooper
Because the layman definition of 'theory' isnt the scientific one.
Theories are testable.
Creationism isn't testable and has zero evidence
Evolution is testable and has significant evidence.
>B-b-b-but its only a theory Gravity is a fucking theory. Theres a shit ton of evidence for it, its testable, but we still havent proven jack shit about it.
Gabriel Perry
See, the problem is you have no idea what theory and law mean. It's only a law if it can be mathematically predicted. A law predicts what will happen given certain inputs. A theory explains how it happens. Law and theory have essentially the same standing in science
Andrew Sanchez
>zero evidence What about the Bible?
John Gray
this has gotta be some bait. I can almost taste it.
Connor Stewart
Reproduce Bible events, go ahead.
Charles Taylor
Also that picture is bullshit.
We didn't evolve from chimps.
Chimps and humans both diverged from the same ancestors. Chimps evolved for their enviroments, and humans evolved for ours.
Josiah Clark
>bible as evidence. I have a book that proves im a god. Scientific evidence you putz
Cooper King
Well, there were obviously no cameras in this time but people had a very good memory and wrote everything down several times so it has to be true if thousands of people over thousands of years witnessed the very same thing.
Nathan Watson
Not even close.
Ryder Wilson
Because creacionistm makes straight up no sense. Its ok if you want to believe it, but you have to accept the facts.
Camden Sullivan
What do you like to be called user? Do your followers have to remain celibate?
Kevin Thompson
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Daniel Morales
>wrote everything down. >talks about events that happened before humans invented paper and the written word
Alexander Gonzalez
I don't know if it's hilarious or tragic that some people here actually aren't trolling when they are trying to debunk evolution with their shit for brains and literally no knowledge in it about scientific methods
Hunter Gonzalez
I'll just add that by saying >it's just a theory what you want to insinuate is >it's just a hypothesis
and by doing this give creationism and evolution the same weight, basically making both >oh it's just something some guy made up
Ian Morris
If it's true it can be done today. So, go ahead, Matthew 17:20 : >He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
Charles Reyes
Is your book thousands of years old and predicted several events in the future? No? Then don't name it in the same sentence as the Holy Bible.
>before written word How retarded are you? Written words were invented thousands of years ago, retard.
Oliver Sanders
he was right on actually
Isaiah Reed
>creationism makes no sense >panspermia makes sense Pick one and only one, since they *the exact same thing*, with the exception that former carries religious stigma.
Aaron Ramirez
This is obviously a metaphor, idiot.
Jaxson Rivera
I pick creationism makes no sense. Your evidence is a metaphor?
Thomas Jackson
Fucking idiot.
Jayden Foster
>it's another retards discuss the semantics rather than the actual science because they can't understand it episode
kek Please also be anti-vaccine so your offspring will not have a chance in this world
Carter Green
My book was written in 1999 and has a whole section which predicted every single powerball drawing from january 2001 until december of 2016, including the ticket sale price increase from $1 to $2.
It is an amazing book that even predicted the rise of a great leader with a huge penis who would make america great again. We are in the final era according to my book of revelations
Luis Anderson
Evolution isn't a theory moron.
James Mitchell
But you don't have a fanatical cult so your book is shit.
Chase Rivera
it is, moron
Josiah Martin
protip: the purpose of the scientific process is to put forth theories. Theories do not mean wild guess. A theory is that which has no contradictory evidence, so no, yes, there is a mountain of evidence, and no, theories are highly disputed in any reputable way.
More protip, think about what happens to a body when it dies. The body falls to the ground, and probably 99.99999999999999999% of the time that body decomposes completely - no trace left behind. A tiny number of times, that body might find itself in a situation to be preserved. The person might have died in a particular kind of mud, encasing it in a low oxygen environment for preservation and eventual fossilization given enough time. The body could be covered in ash, covered by a mudslide, etc. Then, that body or the fossil remains must survive it's journey deep underground as part of the geology. It must avoid being melted. It must avoid being twisted and broken as the rock layers are folded on each other over time. If the rock layer it is in is pushed up to the surface, it must avoid being destroyed by weathering through wind, water, rain, etc. It must avoid being destroyed by man. And above all, those tiny few remains that make it that far, must then actually be discovered by man - and not only that, have to be discovered by the few who are actually trained to know what they are looking at, or discovered by someone who might contact someone who knows - which means it has to have been discovered recently in the last couple of hundred years. All of these reasons and more are why out of the millions and millions of members of those transition species that lived and died, we only have a small handful of remains. Be less stupid please.
Blake Cook
There aren't millions of the thing on the left. The thing on the left existed a long time ago and in different parts of the world where it had different advantages and disadvantages. In some parts of the world, that thing on the left remained looking much the same because its body allowed it to take advantage of the environment. In other parts of the world, the thing on the left didn't have much of an advantage, so after many generations of those that were able to eek out a living they eventually changed to be able to better take advantage of where they were living. Modern humans are just one incarnation of that process. Our ancestors lived in a place that was super hot, had relatively few large trees to live in, and lacked many of the types of foods what were easily available in other place. The result is that we have less hair, sweat from all over our body to stay cool, and can figure out how to take things from nature that don't work for us and make them work for us.
I mean it's pretty obvious.
Isaac Barnes
>I pick creationism makes no sense. Then panspermia makes no sense to you too, so you believe that all species on this planet evolved on this planet, which is the least supported theory for life. That's ok, you can believe what you want.
But don't try to bring science in your arguments as you couldn't be further from scientifically established theories in your personal opinions on the subject.
Logan Kelly
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Aiden Sullivan
The fuck is this shit are you guys all autistic? Read the book of origins holy fuck literally no on even knows what theyre talking about seriously is anyone going to discuss the big bang theory or actual evolution Also nihilism > any religion or belief
Parker Jackson
It is a theory. It is also incorrect(it will proven to be incorrect, and will be fixed, in some cases). But retards don't understand why this is not a bad thing because they don't understand how science works. Cool. To bad I never said anything about panspermia.
Kayden Bell
One of the best possible outcomes of this shit-show. (¬u¬)
Thomas Turner
just face it ur half monkey if it happened like ur chart or like lions and tigers ur half monkey and so am i wooooh hahahahaahah hoo (monkey sound).
Landon Cox
Where did he mention panspermia or belief user
Jack Clark
>predicted events guise this user may be beyond saving
>cuneiform 3000 BC >Bible Begins according to young earth creationists 6000 BC
>the holy bible probably a bait
Jackson Cook
If you believe evolution is incorrect, then that must mean you have some evidence which will overturn it. The entire scientific world awaits what you bring to the table which will turn it on its head. We're waiting.
Seriously though, do you really believe life is completely static and does not change over enormous periods of time?
Austin Phillips
*a your mom joke*
Noah Martinez
Google Dieumerci Mbokani there's the in between species
Jonathan Richardson
>You keep using this word belief
Ryan Robinson
I have four friends who are firm believers.
(Probably because of its promotion of pot and drug use is centric to the path of enlightenment)
Landon Johnson
because there is already a place to go learn about creationism. That is your church/mosque/synagogue/whatever. School is the place to learn about evolution.
Julian Young
I know right? Fucking scientists can't even explain magnetism.
Nathan Young
Because you're literally retarded.
Cameron Long
There aren't millions of those though, that's not a monkey or ape or whatever you think it is.
Gavin Ramirez
wat bout the bible i could of made up that dumb story as a 5 year old kid in 7 days, adem n ev dont eat the apple or the snake will get u............. all of it TBO
Anthony Jackson
The only reason you autistic fags believe in your god because you're scared of hell and if their is no god then no point to live so we actually need religion so these autists dont go on a rampage or mass suicide
Cameron Myers
In science a theory is the absolute highest you can go because scientists accept the fact that we really don't KNOW shit about the universe.
Brandon Thomas
That's simply how science works. Do you know for what purpose, ultimately, all experiments are conducted? To prove theories wrong. LHC was built to prove the standard model wrong. Grav sattelites are launched to prove Einstein wrong. They fail most of the time, but if they don't a new theory is introduced that takes into account these new effects. Because of the incredible insight of the scientists of the early 20th century there haven't been any big changes as of late.
Carter Long
Are you guys trying to debunk the evolutionary system?
You know that it is proven right? You know that the discussion is about the specifics of our origins, and not whether it is true or not right? You have taken elementary biology classes right? Right?
Connor Kelly
Fuck crackas. We wuz Kangz n sheeeit
Landon Robinson
But, OP, we do have millions of missing link organisms! They are called African-Americans and are considered "people".
Kevin Allen
Laws and theories actually refer to completely different things.
A theory encompasses a large body of research and strong evidence and has broad explanatory power. I mean, more to it than that, but general idea.
A law is a derived or inducted mathematical principle or statement.
Something being a "law" in science speaks to its form, not its accuracy.
For example, there's the now-discreditied Titus Bode Law in astronomy, which predicted the posititions of the planets. It was just a power function that happened to fit the curve, it didn't apply in the outer solar system or other solar systems.
Whereas the laws of thermodynamics are simple mathematical statements derived from statistical mechanics, and we know them to be highly accurate on the macroscale.
Conversely, the theory of evolution will never become a law, because that's not what a law is.
A theory is the greatest a scientific idea can happen to be. It means others have been unable to falsify it, it has decades of evidence, and broad, accurate explanatory power.
Evolution is proven in the scientific sense. It will never be proven in the christian sense, because literally nothing can be proven in the christian sense except what they like.