Who do you fuck with more?

Who do you fuck with more?

Who has the better songs/projecrs?
Who is better overall?

>Inb4 dad rap fans moan in thread about mumbles and bring back miracle spiritual hip hop.

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Lil Uzi is clearly the best out of this whole new wave and it's not even close

He doesn't hide behind irony like Yachty

He doesn't actually just suck like 21 savage

He doesn't have downs like Dex

Uzi has the trifecta of good yet somewhat different production, catchiness, and image

I'm also pretty sure he has more material than Yachty? Not saying he's better because of it but it definitely makes it easier to have more good songs

Lil Uzi Vs the World was a good project
Luv is Rage was a good project
1017 was kind of trash ngl, but that was because the beats were too middling between gucci and uzi
The Perfect Luv Tape had some duds but overall had some nice additions to Uzis catalog

The Real Uzi is good if you want to hear Uzi actually rap theres some cuts on there

He has a ton of songs floating around that didnt get put on any projects that are pretty good, such as some of the ones he did with Kur

Plus Uzi just dropped SOTY in XO TOUR LLIFE.

I think Uzi is better overall. But im not sure I could put any of his projects above Lil Boat.

I'm not a huge fan of either one of them but Uzi is clearly better than Yachty.

I Could and very easily too

Some of those beats are so low effort its sad

Yachty hides behind irony which I dislike a lot, it shows that he's afraid to stand by his art.

The beats aren't good either, the intro is a perfect example

>generic lex luger snare in 2016

no thanks

I think Lil Boat is the most characteristic and conceptual. Thematically it feels a lot tighter and more consistent. Uzi projects often feel messy and heavily fluctuating in catchiness and quality.

Yachty can spit a better verse but Lil Uzi Vert vs The World is much better than Lil Boat.

LUV is better but normies ride Yachty's dick way more. I listen to Yachty only when he's featured on someone else's work

Yachty is much better. Before XO Tour lif3 uzi couldn't even write a cohesive song. Literally just ad libs. Plus Lil Boat was trap album of the year and uzi vs the world was bad.

I haven't listened to any of uzis shit before XO TOUR LIFE and I loved it. Anything like that in his other shit?

>He doesn't hide behind irony like Yachty
holy shit you are dumb. nothing about yachty is ironic get off the internet its ruining you.

this desu

LUV is miles ahead of Yachty at the moment. Yachty has always been trash, and has shown he doesn't give a shit about the music so he won't evolve as an artist and lil boat will be the only noteworthy album he releases, meanwhile Uzi has only gotten better and actually care about the genre and isn't afraid to bear his feelings on a record and because of that Uzi has the SOTYSF.

Lol if you listen to Uzi or Yachty you're a fucking sheep now if you excuse me im gonna listen to Hopsin and Tech N9ne now.

haven't listened to uzi but lil boat the mixtape is fire, it's impossible for me to grow tired of it

>You are dumb
>Literally has NO ARGUMENT TO SPEAK OF

Why is it then when anons don't have a point they always just go for insults?

Yachty is very clearly ironic, much in the same way Lil B was before him, someone who was a huge influence on Yachty.

Both are bad

Watch the nardwuar, Lil Uzi is literally a manlet that grew up listening to my chemical romance

Lil Yachty is a fake ass bitch that is effeminate in interviews yet totally contradicts himself in his music

>Couldn't even write a cohesive song

I've never actually listened to Lil Uzi's music: the post

>Lil Boat was trap album of the year

disgusting

Joey Purp is better than all of them

Lil Uzi Vert made Team Rocket (and it's not even his best song)
So I will always fuck wit his music

>expecting him to be the worst
>ends up being the best out of the New Wave

and Yachty's music is always hit or miss.

Uzi Forever

>Yachty is very clearly ironic, much in the same way Lil B was before him, someone who was a huge influence on Yachty.
explain how he is ironic. i want a laugh

but mostly misses

Have you listened to minnesota?

Are you implying that isn't supposed to be ironic? That you didn't burst out laughing when you first heard it?

He's just that genuinely terrible?

>fucked catch me outside girl

Jail when?

>lil yachty isn't ironic
youtube.com/watch?v=251cxou3yR4

ony has two formal uses that are not as common in general prose as its more casual uses. One refers to Socratic irony—a method of revealing an opponent’s ignorance by pretending to be ignorant yourself and asking probing questions. The other refers to dramatic irony or tragic irony—an incongruity between the situation in a drama and the words used by the characters that only the audience can see. Socratic irony is a tool used in debating; dramatic irony is what happens when the audience realizes that Romeo and Juliet’s plans will go awry.

The third, and debated, use of irony regards what’s called situational irony. Situational irony involves a striking reversal of what is expected or intended: a person sidesteps a pothole to avoid injury and in doing so steps into another pothole and injures themselves. Critics claim the word irony and ironic as they are generally used (as in, “Isn’t it ironic that you called just as I was planning to call you?”) can only apply to situational irony, and uses like the one above are more properly called coincidence.


how is any of those songs relating to those terms?

>I just learned the definition of irony from my professor
or
>look at my google powers

I can use google as well

Funnily enough, you couldn't see that a synonym for irony is SATIRE and MOCKERY

Which is what Lil Yachty's music is

Intentionally bad as a mockery of this generation of rap music. and a satirical take on it if you wish to call it that. Like Lil B's satire of rap.

Hence Lil yachty's hiding behind the irony (SATIRE or MOCKERY, is that better for you user?) of his music to avoid actual expression.

The difference is Lil B is talented and yachty is not. Yachty knows that he can't make good music, so he intentionally makes bad music as both a mockery of the "game" and the fans.

das tragic if true

>Yachty knows that he can't make good music, so he intentionally makes bad music as both a mockery of the "game" and the fans.
why is he music bad? when fans and critics consider it good. theres plenty of examples of bad hip hop that never made a breakthrough "jj icefish" "50 tyson" but always flop after the shock value weared off.

i would also like examples on how any of his lyrics are as you say SATIRE and MOCKERY.

The man has red braids, it's obviously an ironic persona

If not, then I genuinely think he may be retarded. But I doubt it, seems above average in intelligence to me.

Why do people pretend trap isn't complete fucking trash?

XO TOUR LIFE SOTY

Next to Chanel

Fans considered Poison good, does that make them good?

>I would like examples of this that and the third

Bro if you can't see the blatant irony in his whole persona then I can't help you. I'm not gonna spell it out for you. Like I said, he's either being ironic or he's actually mentally challenged (which he's not).

>Why is the music bad

Here we fucking go. Another
>Music is objective!!!!
argument

If you can't hear why a song like Minnesota is bad then I have nothing to say to you. Yes I'm aware that some people like it, some people also like to murder people. Some people like ham and bananas. Some people like to be vomited on. Some people like to drown puppies. Some people like Foreigner.

Thousand layers of irony

Which is what rustles me jim jams about this user pretending it's not ironic

>If you can't hear why a song like Minnesota is bad then I have nothing to say to you.
why can't you just point out the lyrics and tell me why its satire for you. its a simple question that you refuse to backup.

>Bro if you can't see the blatant irony in his whole persona then I can't help you.
so you don't know why its ironic then? he can't simply enjoying doing things that you deem as uncool without being ironic?

again show me lines from his songs that are satire like you say it is.

*subjective rather

my b my b

You're just playing dumb

>Why can't you spoonfeed me daddy

I never said he was uncool, projecting a little bro?

Is lil yachty your rapper hero and if I attack him it's a direct attack to you and your coolness?

The chance that he might be -gasp- not taking himself seriously and mocking everyone?

you made the claim hes ironic why can't you back it up?
>The chance that he might be -gasp- not taking himself seriously
i agree on that but where is the proof hes mocking everyone?

So you're telling me Lil Yachty intentionally makes music that bad?

Even acknowledging Lil B as a huge influence?

Okay man, I would love to write you a thesis on why Lil Yachty is ironic but I'll just leave it at that. If he ISN'T being ironic, and his music is just that bad? That's a bad sign

>So you're telling me Lil Yachty intentionally makes music that bad?
whos saying his music is bad besides you? hip hop community is quick to dismiss trash, so why does yachty have a career then?

>Okay man, I would love to write you a thesis on why Lil Yachty is ironic but I'll just leave it at that. I
i doubt you can. if you can't even point out one song that displays mockery and satire.

>hip hop community is quick to dismiss trash
Anyone who isn't retarded has already dismissed Yachty and most other trap artists.
>so why does yachty have a career then?
There's plenty of successful popular music that's complete trash.

>Anyone who isn't retarded has already dismissed Yachty and most other trap artists.
like who?????

>There's plenty of successful popular music that's complete trash
thats true but again the hip hop community is quick to dismiss trash and one hit wonders. whats O.T. Genasis doing again?

>like who?????
Me
>thats true but again the hip hop community is quick to dismiss trash and one hit wonders
Ok but hip hop can be consumed by people outside of the hip hop community. To the average normie it doesn't really matter if hardcore fans dismiss something.

barely heard any of them

i kinda like 1night and broccoli

i always stop bad and boujee before lil uzi starts singing

my opinion is clearly the most important

Bullshit, re-produce me Baby Are You Home and I'll believe you.

I was talking Yachty not Uzi

Did you listen to the Lil Boat mixtape? I think you're wrong man, he's got some very nice shit on there.

Uzi's albums are typically trash. Perfect Love Tape is a 1/10

both kinda shit but uzi is okay at making hooks at least
you dont really have to be a dadrap anti mumble fag to not like these guys anyway, ill listen to almost anything thugger or future release but yachty and co dont really seem to put much into their music

Yachty by miles

Idgaf but you niggas need to fuck with my nigga Big Baby.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwvokQuk5g

7 years too late to experience fame, very good song though

explain how yachty hides behind irony, obviously he has a lot of unserious and jokey songs, but that doesn't mean he isn't commited to his art and that he can't make serious music.

youtube.com/watch?v=5UazfS1IkcI

I was memeing. It's nerd rap with a nerdy sample (that last sentence kind of sounds like Yachty)

The songs from 2012 and the sample was released in 2011. So 5 years too late, but I doubt he'd ever be famous eitherway

yeah you obviously haven't listened to the real uzi then.

Hi roller is good

terrible

uzi is fucking garbage.

where can I find electronic music with an exhibition of 808 drums that hit as hard as trap? juke/footwork is the only thing that rivals it. plus trap is the most rhythmically interesting style of hip-hop.

not an argument

It's clearly comically generic and trash

>I don't get irony hurr durrrrr

>It's clearly comically generic and trash
if its generic post a similar song
how is it irony again? could you point out some examples in his lyrics?

>implying enjoying something ironically doesn't immediately cancel out the irony
at that point, you're simply enjoying it. this is why you are retarded when you keep throwing that word around it's impossible to enjoy something ironically

This thread is filled with Alanis Morisettes who don't know what irony is.

It's not impossible to enjoy something ironically

literally NEVER said that

What's up with defensive faggots and their strawmen?

Again, if you don't understand the irony behind Lil Yachty's whole persona and music then I don't know what to tell you.

Go through any Wiz khalifa project and there's like 5 beats in them that sound like that

>hurrr durrr spoonfeed me daddy I need a thousand different proofs as to why something is x

You clearly have no discernment in your ears or the second more likely proposition is you're shilling violently, which is why you have 0 concept of irony and need to be spoonfed as to why something is ironic.

IF you can acknowledge someone like Lil B is ironic and can't make that connection to Lil yachty being ironic then you simply lack the brainpower to do so. I'll repeat myself again. I'm not going to spoonfeed it to you if you are willfully ignorant to the absolute fact of Lil Yachty being ironic.

>I don't know that irony can be a synonym for mockery and satire: the post

This thread is filled with shills who pretend they enjoy lil yachty

>I'm not going to spoonfeed it to you if you are willfully ignorant to the absolute fact of Lil Yachty being ironic.
because you have zero proof besides you thinking everybody objectively thinks likes you.
pick any of his songs and showcase proof of his lyrics being ironic.
all you have done is repeat anecdotal fallacy like a dumbass.

>Go through any Wiz khalifa project and there's like 5 beats in them that sound like that
post one

>SPOONFEED ME PLEASE I CAN'T RECOGNIZE GENERIC MELODIES PLEASEEEE DADDY SPOONFEED ME

>he had won over the youth and his movement went deeper than being an ironic, internet sensation.

What's that, a music writer noticed that he was being ironic too?

So I'm not the only one?

So a person who writes about music for a living notices this too?

WOW

putting little effort into one's work ≠ irony you fucking moron. and so you're saying his music is purposely bad, but many others would argue that the production and his vocals sound good. you're mistaking not giving a fuck with irony and it's sad to see

The Battle of Yachty's Irony is the most reddit teir white battle since the thread arguing over why Blond sucks

>IF you can acknowledge someone like Lil B is ironic
lil b has made statements against this very thought. once again, having fun and showing putting little effort into one's work does not mean the art will be bad nor ironic. you are quite thick

Seriously.

Yachty likes the shit that he makes, his lyrics are fun, and if you didn't like the Lil Boat mixtape, you should go back to listening to Tupac in an echo-chamber.

Same goes for Savage, Uzi, X, Ugly God, etc.

i like one yachty song and i like one uzi song

but i like three (3) young thug albums.

kodak has the god like hooks but his raps are whack as fuck.

uzi has good hooks raps are okay

21 savage, yatchy, and designner are whack.

I wish Swae Lee did more solo shit. dude could probably drop a killer rnb album

t. centrist


>many others would argue

Whomst?

13 year olds?

Dipshits (really shills) like you?

It's intentionally bad. That's being ironic

>Ha ha get it guys it's bad but I'm just joking this is all a big joke


If you unironically enjoy minnesota I assume you still enjoy listening to lullabies

Lil B also said he looks like ellen DeGeneres, does that make it true?

>It's intentionally bad. That's being ironic
ah yes so the producers slaving away making beats for him are just giving him nothing but shitty beats. are you fucking retarded?

>Ha ha get it guys it's bad but I'm just joking this is all a big joke
how is it a bad song?

Slim Jxmmi holds Swae back so much.

Thugger the god. Dude gets jewels from the prince of Dubai? Jesus christ.

>Having fun

>Seriously guys Yachty likes the shit he makes (I think I have no idea I just assume so because he probably said it in an interview) and it's SO FUN YEAHHH FUN

>And if you didn't like lil boat you need to go listen to real rap

If you liked lil boat you might have downs

Honest to god trash music and what a shocker its done intentionally.

wow dude never thought about that. in that case, you proclaiming he's ironic doesn't make it true either you fucking idiot

>slaving away

nigger have you heard minnesota? that beat took 10 minutes to make tops

You obviously know NOTHING about production because his beats tend to painfully simple and use the same kits everyone else is using

And you're proclaiming it's not doesn't either.

Everyone knows Lil B is being ironic you fucking idiot. Is denial of reality the new thing here on Sup Forums?

>Seriously guys Yachty likes the shit he makes
yep his producers must really love spending their time making beats they just hate and think are horrible. once again, little effort does not equate bad or ironic art but you enjoy not reflecting on that. and enjoy thinking your opinion is objective because it's hilarious to see retards like you exist

yah yah yeh yah yeah

>Everyone knows Lil B is being ironic you fucking idiot.
little effort does not equate irony why are you idiots this fucking stupid

"fuck with more"?

Right because people never cashed in on gullible idiots like you to make some money. That has never happened EVER.

That's why Tyler the Creator makes beats like furb set anthem, because he thinks they're fucking flames and he wasn't just JOKING AROUND

>Everyone knows Lil B is being ironic you fucking idiot.
hes not hes just terrible but a nice guy who wants a better world.

>I think I have no idea I just assume so because he probably said it in an interview

Really? Because he did say it, multiple times, in a few interviews.

youtube.com/watch?v=7kAw9XxhlCk
youtube.com/watch?v=LyqcrHW-CuU

You're literally just mad he made some catchy music that you don't like. Sorry, but Lil Boat is good shit, fun to listen to, and very well produced. If you think otherwise you're either a sad old head, or you didn't listen to the tape. Because it has some of the best and most unique mixtape production that's been seen in a while.

I don't listen to lil yachty
also, 'joking around' does not equate to ironic or bad art btw you guys really love ignoring this fact

cypherleague.com/features/the-audacity-of-joke-how-lil-b-and-his-satire-raps-influence-the-game/

Hmmm SATIRE?!!

"He has brought a genuine self aware smile and sense of sarcastic irony to a game full of serious gangsters."

HMMMMM

You keep saying low effort as if it has any pull in this conversation when it does not

You'd be the type to say Andy Kaufman was really being serious because he said it wasn't a joke

You just proved my point, you heard it in an interview so to you = true and, in regards to my previous reply, yes I'm aware that I myself am quoting an article for a point. But you stupid fuckheads are acting like no one has ever claimed lil b was being ironic EVER, when EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS BEING IRONIC

Anyways You're one of those people who believe whatever a celebrity says

>SEE GUYS!!! HE SAID HE HAS FUN SO HE HAS FUN!!
>SEE GUYS!! KANYE SAID HES A GENIUS SO HE IS ONE

>Some of the best and most unique production

citation needed

>very well produced

Citation needed

Or ill be like you "post examples hurr durrrr"

>You just proved my point, you heard it in an interview so to you = true and, in regards to my previous reply, yes I'm aware that I myself am quoting an article for a point
actual fucking moron confirmed lmfao

Yachty is a better rapper than uzi,his music isnt ironic at all. Just because he has a sense of humor with his craft doesnt make him trash.Uzi just happens to be catchy
>You still have yet to provide proof
genius.com/Lil-uzi-vert-uppin-downers-soundcloud-rappers-only-lyrics
>59 times

>I have literally NO ARGUMENT TO SPEAK OF: the post