Tfw outgrew my muh experimental music phase and appreciating the simplicity and creative competency of pop music

>tfw outgrew my muh experimental music phase and appreciating the simplicity and creative competency of pop music

I have ascended and am too good for Sup Forums now

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you are truly patrician when you evolve past pop music and enter into neo psych

Tame Impala tier garbage is neither good pop music nor good experimental music, it's trash.

i've been in the same mood OP, except old pop and rock. downloaded the "rolling stones top 500 songs ever" and had to rediscover how much bob dylan sucks shit though

Im talking about the Flaming Lips, nig

same, except metalcore

Laughable

I'm sorry but mainstream pop is never anything better than "pretty good." No matter how much you tell yourself you are patrician, you aren't.

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>Tame Impala tier garbage

I agreed with you until you said that, lmao

Music theory disagrees with you.

I'm sure you know quite a bit from rating shit on rate your music, though.

>I'm sorry but mainstream pop is never anything better than "pretty good.
How so?

Hes right though. Pop music follows very safe guidelines that have been in place for hundreds of years such as the I-IV-V progression in various forms, the concept of a melody which comes in 3 sections (the first two being similar if not the same and the third starting out similar and then having a surprising changeup), and things like appoggiatura (a melody starting on a non chord tone and falling into place on a chord tone) to trick the listener into finding some sort of significance in the music.

So yea, pop can be good, it can be damn good, but its always playing my those rules which restricts it from being anything more

>Hes right though. Pop music follows very safe guidelines that have been in place for hundreds of years such as the I-IV-V progression in various forms, the concept of a melody which comes in 3 sections (the first two being similar if not the same and the third starting out similar and then having a surprising changeup), and things like appoggiatura (a melody starting on a non chord tone and falling into place on a chord tone) to trick the listener into finding some sort of significance in the music
Oh like this
youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU

They're not rules, they're guidelines that you work off of to find a good sound to add.

Would you rather have some animal collective tier pseud trash that thinks ignoring basic fundamental guidelines is creative (or novel)?

>pop music is the most theoretically sound music and therefore the best
>P4K=ShareBlue=CTR

It operates within musical guidelines and works off of that. Breaking these down is neither creative nor particularly "good". It just makes something that's both unpleasing to the ears and not creative either.

id rather find creative ways that produce a good sound whether they follow any played out guidelines or not. jazz and african traditional music had european "art music" afficionados scratching their heads a hundred years ago because it didnt have the same margins they used to piegonhole their music. anco is pretty tame melodically too even on spirit and early stuff

>ignoring basic fundamental guidelines is creative (or novel)?
Why wouldn't it be?

That's like saying making a hamburger without the buns is either tasteful or a "Creative" meal

>tasteful
Hamburgers taste fine
>"Creative"
It would be creative since the established norm is wit bun.

Care to try your argument again?

the guidelines and forms of pop as user explained are a bit more strict than you're making them out to be, you can obviously still make melodic, consonant music that isn't ababcb, I-IV-V, it's like a false dichotomy you're making
see classical

>the guidelines and forms of pop as user explained are a bit more strict than you're making them out to be
What are the very strict guidelines?

Be sure to cite your source btw

not even him but do you really expect someone to summarize such a thing properly in a single Sup Forums post?

They're guidelines

To build OFF

removing guidelines is anti-progress and certainly anti-creative, which loses its novelty extremely quickly and is very lazy

>outgrew

idk man just have a look at this
nature.com/articles/srep00521

(you) did good, senpai.

what is: cherrypicking?

>thinks outgrew is a typo now

If you can't prove it, it's not true
Ooops you didn't answer my question. Try again?
Those aren't guidelines

it's expanding ways to progress

sorry, poptimism is just stepping down from mid-pleb tier to shit-pleb-tier. true transcendence is learning to love dadrock.

The Flaming Lips are good

>he thinks that's red pill
>not burying your head in the ground and listening the the music of the Earth

you're like a little baby

Who said mainstream?

>not realizing experimental music is and was always the most worthwhile

Keep your social signals to yourself with your box of animal crackers and raisins dingus.

>not just enjoying whatever music you enjoy and leaving it at that

>thinking what you like is what you really like

>not tobacco or bmsr or AnCo

lel, gotta find those bands who fill a niche nobody else comes close to filling

>creative competency of pop
You lost me

>tfw outgrew pop and ascended to Technical Death Metal and avantgarde music.

>too dumb to actually prefer experimental
>reverts to his natural state
>I have ascended

Transcended tech death to old school Death metal

>AnCo
>>>>>>

>all these plebs who think there's some kind of dichotomy between listening to pop and "experimental" music and actually feel intelligent for ignoring one in favour of the other
>tfw to intelligent for to intelligent threads on Sup Forums

I understand what you're saying.
The level of discipline and practice to write a good pop tune these days, minimising everything to the bare essentials, is actually extremely difficult.

I'm with OP. I've went through some shitty experimental phases, but I am thankful I did because I wouldn't have found some of my favorite artists such as Robbie Basho, Fela Kuti, BT, World Party, The KLF, Yellow Magic Orchestra, Magnolia Electric Co. amongst others.
However through it all I have regained my love for melody, balance and great pop structure like pic-related. Also Marvin Gaye, Oasis, New Order, Prince and Kendrick Lamar are fantastic examples of top teir artists that have broken into the mainstream

>not enjoying both
w e w lad

Forgot pic to fantastic pop-rock album

The best music is a balance between order and chaos, too much order and it's derivative and uninspiring, too much chaos and it's autistic wank

I bet this guy turns off his trip so he can defend his claims anonymously