Why do people say hip hop isn't an electronic music subgenre?

Why do people say hip hop isn't an electronic music subgenre?

who says that?

people

Because it's not.

which people?

well theres him

It doesn't sound much like one, the sound should dictate the genre rather than anything else. Anyway it is more like a soul/funk/reggae subgenre with crossover into electronica

which is still electronic you fucking dumbass

You honestly think stuff like Grandmaster Flash was rooted in electronica?

>the sound should dictate the genre rather than anything else

But it doesn't.

>DJ scratching records on twin turntables
>anything but

This is some weak b8

tell me what kind of equipment did he use
electronic or acoustic?

No it doesn't because the tards that care so much about genres are only able to think in narrow, non-abstract ways so the sound is secondary and the equipment the only thing they seem to consider.

Have a great thread

>no arguments
>just reaction images
aren't you late for middle school?

You mean literally everyone then.

Wikipedia, Grove Encyclopedia, Last.fm, RYM, Discogs, Allmusic...

Electronic music is music made with electronic instruments.

>implying that all electronic music is one genre
I hate this meme.

It literally shows 11 different genres and sub genres for each

>Wikipedia, Last.fm, RYM, Discogs
All user edited, by the same kind of unimaginative personalities as you. Grove certainly doesn't classify hip hop as electronic.

As said, have a great thread. I have no need to argue this with a genre tard.

Including hip hop

Are you denying hip hop is electronically produced music?

people.

WE WUZ KANGS

Probably because it comes from a different musical lineage. Most of that chart share a relatively recent common musical ancestor but you'd have to go further back to link hip hop.

Hip hop and techno both have origins in electro and Jamaican music.

>inb4 muh funk and soul
Sampling those genres != the genre

But electro and dub are not at all alike, they aren't a common ancestor.

Dub and hip hop shares a lineage with plunderphonics, music concrete, tape music, and early experimental turntable stuff, while the majority of everything else on that list comes from synthesizer music which comes a lot later than messing around with tapes and recordings.

so rock is a subgenre of electronic music too?

>Subgenres
Plebs detected

If the guitar is an electronic instrument, yes.

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