What does /mu think of Mariah Carey?

What does /mu think of Mariah Carey?

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am i the only one who thinks that she's really off putting to look at?

I want to hate fuck this thicc slut so hard
some slap in her face too

90s Rihanna. A so-so pop singer who managed to be relevant for years and years by grinding out songs that just happened to fit the cultural zeitgeist.

Mariah Carey [Columbia, 1990]

I swear I didn't know her mama was an opera singer, but I'm embarrassed that I didn't guess. She gets too political in her brave, young, idealistic attack on "war, destitution and sorrow": "Couldn't we accept each other/Can't we make ourselves aware." Elsewhere she sticks to what she doesn't know--love. Debbie Gibson, all is forgiven. C

Emotions [Columbia, 1991] *bomb*

Music Box [Columbia, 1993] *bomb*

Butterfly [Columbia, 1997] *bomb*

#1's [Columbia, 1998]

"Fantasy [Featuring ODB]" *choice cuts*

Rainbow [Columbia, 1999]

Not a "real" r&b thrush, but good enough to fake it ("Heartbreaker," "Crybaby"). **

E=MC2 [Island, 2008]

"Touch My Body" *choice cuts*

Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel [Island, 2009] *bomb*

wow, i really thought he'd give Rainbow a sad face
and Butterfly a helicopter
i was really surprised when he gave Music Box a picture of his taint

Yeah fuck this guy. He thought Janet Jackson was good.

really nice tits and thicc body, i wanna fuck her in every hole if you know what i mean

no, what do you mean?

GOAT diss track of all time right here

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i wanna have sex with her. She would probably laugh at my cock, but that would be kinda sexy tho

to be honest, Eminem acted like a fucking high school kid in this whole drama.

We had one in Australia; it was called Kylie Minogue.

I mean, really. Especially for a guy who was pushing 40 at the time.

yeah, when you think about it its kinda funny, a 'badass' rapper who beefs with pop stars and white trash bands.

Did he get an STD from Mariah Carey or something?

Fantasy is the jam of a lifetime. Sampling Genius of love will always make a song amazing.

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garbage

Kylie is bae

If you were a 12 year old girl in 1995, she was ok.

This, but of course it's all because of the Tom Tom Club

Why did so many talented people die in 2016, but this worthless plebian hack is still alive?

she's iconic af and the queen of shade

slay mama

This is good. Not wonderful but pretty good.

that album cover taught me how to jack off

She's a fucked up mix of Irish and shitskin, so...

The current generation of pop stars don't seem to crank out albums at the rate they did in the 90s. Mariah and Kylie had one out every year and a half back then.

You can't make money from recorded music like you could in the 90s.

Ok if you were a gay dude in the 90s.

Natch.

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>What does /mu think of Mariah Carey?
Wasted talent. With a 4 octave vocal range she decided to make dance-pop...

Roy Orbison wasted his talent too. Whaddya want?

I'm sure she regrets that decision as she contemplates the size of her bank account.

She's alright...

If her name were Janet Smith, she'd be a cashier at Target.

I was listening to Music Box and I noticed how bland 90s pop production is. There isn't a distinct sound to it the way there is with, say, 80s pop that makes you definitively know it's from the 90s when you hear it.

It was a reaction against the over-the-top 80s sounds.

She is and always will be a sexual awakening to me. Especially Honey - in both song and video.

Still hot, too. Good and thicc nowadays.

Though on the other hand, 90s pop has aged pretty well compared to 80s pop, unless the song is referencing some outdated technology item like a VCR or a pager.

Yeah, because money can solve all of your problems.

Britney et al kind of pushed her off the airwaves.

dear god

>problems

Her MTV Unplugged set was cool.

kylie is perfection

t est

Her songs always seem like the same bland, indistinct mush.

Her music always annoyed me.

What's weird is, I was never attracted to her until now, when I'm in my mid 20s. All of a sudden I crave her big ass and tits. Same goes for J-Lo and Beyonce.

Jennifer Lopez was a Mariah contemporary that somehow didn't get started until she was already 30 and the Britney era had started.

Before I had my own laptop I would scroll through the music channels when the opportunity arose.

Spilt so much of my seed to her videos, especially the touch my body one.

Considering her impressive vocal range, she really criminally underused it.

Kylie Minogue is hotter desu.

Eh, she never showed enough skin, gold hotpants don't compare to low cut dresses and panty shots.

itt: gen z nu male cucks with wrong opinions

You never saw that one phone (?) commercial she did.

excuse me for not being 40 and having my first ejaculation to MC back in '91

Oh ya but like I say this is before I had access to a laptop.

Also it's not like I would pass over Kylie, but around that era she wasn't being played as much as Mariah, I actually forgot when I typed that but Can't Get You Out Of My Head was actually pretty high tier fap material when it played.

Ironically I just scrolled through the music channels and Spinning Around was playing. Better wank material than I remember.

Toppest of top tiers was Perfect Exceeder.

>Also it's not like I would pass over Kylie, but around that era she wasn't being played as much as Mariah

My Amerifat sense is tingling...

Her first two albums came out in 90-91 and still have some 80s-ness to them, especially the snare reverb drums.

I guess what Christgau didn't like about Mariah was her lack of vocal expression, she comes off as too wooden despite her obviously impressive range. Part of what makes for a good performer is making it seem like you actually believe what you're singing. Frank Sinatra was a genius at that.

>problems
You know, those things that happen when you move out of your parents house.

Well your Amerifat sense needs some major recalibration m80.

>move out of parents house
>"oh no, dance pop"

Janet Jackson's stuff is more based in traditional black music sounds, it's more slinky and funky. I guess that's why he likes her better, her music comes off as sexier. Funk always makes for the best sex music.

Yeah Mariah's songs are pretty bland and all of them sound the same. Aside from her tits, there's nothing to get excited about.

It's too bad her voice is kind of shot now and she's only in her 40s.

Her, Whitney, and Celine all used poor vocal technique and lost their power and range at a relatively early age. At least Mariah wasn't a junkie like Whitney who had the best voice (imo) out of the three.

Made me kek
4/10

Olivia Newton-John was kind of losing her voice by the late 90s as she was pushing 50, but that may have had more to do with cancer treatment she'd undergone, but by the early 2000s she regained her vocal power.

Charmbracelet is the first album where Mariah seems to not have her full vocal power and she was only 33 at that time. But she apparently had some health issues at that time so it may be excusable.

A lot of people complained about Whitney Houston's voice on I Look To You, which I think is unfair. Her voice may have lost some of that perfect smoothness but she still sang with huge amounts of power.

I agree, the haters hated too much. Her lifestyle habits definitely affected her voice, but she still had power and could hit some mighty notes.

Whitney Houston was just sad. She could have totally ruled the 90s but drugs and Bobby Brown did her in. By mid-decade her career had become a joke.

I think Whitney would have had Toni Braxton's career in the 90s, if she wanted it. Or, Toni Braxton had the career Whitney would have had, if not for her issues and her pursuit of movie stardom. Both were on Arista, and Toni had her first hits (produced by Babyface, who had produced a lot of Whitney's I'm Your Baby Tonight) just as Whitney fell off the radar a bit after The Bodyguard. I think Clive Davis and Arista also saw Deborah Cox as a Whitney-substitute too, doing Whitney-style R&B, pop and adult contemporary ballads, but she had fewer hits than Toni did.

It was and apparently the main reason for it was because Mariah didn't do a lot of live performances and critics said she was only a studio artist who couldn't sing live and her vocals were doctored and all that, so she wanted to prove that wasn't so.

Olivia Newton John hit too many ceiling notes like Whitney and damaged her voice.

It's as I said. She started getting rough in the 90s, but by the early 2000s sounded much better after hiring a vocal coach. Now she's in her 60s and doesn't quite have the power she once did, but is still a very capable vocalist and can hit high notes when she wants to.

Her first two albums are classic, Music Box is a bit of a downgrade, mostly because the lead single (Dreamlover) is a letdown. There's some good songs on that album, but it generally feels too generic and also she devotes too much time to using helium vocals as opposed to S/T and Emotions where she does more low range singing. It seems to me that Music Box was trying a little more to appeal to tween girls than her previous albums.

Music Box was produced by Walter Afanasieff who was known for this ultra-glossy production aesthetic (see his Celine Dion albums) that however feels cold and impersonal. Note how after this, she moved to a more R&B sound.

I'm being complimentary here, but Music Box is a little too syrupy for my taste, a little too much like a Celine Dion album.

What do you think Mariah Carey dumping her billionaire financee for an Asian guy?

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I recently listened to Music Box for the first time in years and I do agree it's too slick and generic, as if you could plug in any female vocalist interchangeably. Though I find Mariah's voice preferable to Celine's. My partner loves Celine and I agree she has some excellent material, but I just think Mariah is a bit better.

I can't say with certainty what the intention behind MB is, but to me it sounds like a Tommy Molotta album, since they got married around this time and it feels as if this is the album he wanted Mariah to make. But since they got divorced in a hurry and Mariah then started doing R&B on the albums after MB, I'd guess it wasn't her idea.

As far as my personal tastes go, I don't really care for "vocal gymnastics". While I certainly don't mean to single her out or pick on her, I'll use Mariah Carey as my example. For me, her first album was "Wow - listen to that girl sing!" By the second, I was like, "OK - I know you can do that - how about just singing the song?" And I started to lose interest.

It isn't gender-based. There are guys who sing that way too, and for me, it wears thin real fast. I understand that others may dig it though...if we all liked the same thing, life would be pretty boring!

To quote blues singer Hazel Miller, "Mariah Carey does not make you feel that she believes in what she's singing. So I can't deal with it ...God love her, she has an incredible gift. But to sing that mindless 4/4-beat, R&B simply to make money and never use that amazing voice God blessed her with for anything worthy of it - to me, I'm sorry, that's a sin."

Street Talk [Columbia, 1985]

The head Journeyman's USA for Africa cameos were so discreetly intense and discreetly tossed off they made me wonder what I'd been missing. Now I know--musical gastroenteritis. Pat Boone didn't understand, so why should Steve Perry--oversinging signifies not soul and inspiration but will and desperation. Upped a notch for good intentions, and just in case Sam Cooke has finally taught him a lesson. C

Yeah the worst part is that an entire generation of pop singers were influenced by Mariah Carey's relentless overkill. That operatic style of singing had its roots in black gospel and blues singers, but Mariah et al forgot how to sing with any emotion or feeling.

she realized that ASIAN MEN >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE MEN / BLACK MEN

I agree with the other guy that the MOR ballads on her first two albums were the best and she made a mistake adopting R&B sounds and trying to appeal to 12 year old girls.

Oversinging predates Mariah Carey by a long shot, it was common on Star Search which was a 70s American Idol kind of show. There are at least several rock vocalists with huge ranges like Ann Wilson and Rob Halford who've made much better use of their abilities.

Yeah but at least Star Search performers never lasted more than a few minutes. Mariah Carey and her disciples have been a blight on popular music for a quarter century.

This. Whitney was even more guilty and Beyonce taking it to another level.

Give me Aretha Franklin over these, any day.

Christgau is fucking weird man

Britney Spears:
Glory (Deluxe Edition) [RCA, 2016]
Not much music that aspires to pornography achieves the purity of its pleasure principle, and not much pornography does either--not if the ideal isphysical sensation undiluted by either the distractions of romance or the power trips of big-dick netsmut. So Glory's fast-tracked eroticism is an unprecedented achievement even for this longtime professional sex toy. If she has "personal" issues, and why shouldn't she, they go unaddressed. But that doesn't mean there are no signs of growth here. Never has she slammed less or cooed more, and never has she seemed so in command of her desires, or so comfortable with them. She always likes her partners and sometimes loves them, but only three of the 17 songs go off message unless you count the voyeuristic one where she catches her doppelganger atop the cad she's driven 250 miles to dump. My favorite sequence tops the single "Clumsy," where they're banging all over the bedroom, with the single "Do You Wanna Come Over?," where she promises not to start kissing and touching without his go-ahead. But since tastes in sex differ radically, you may have your own. A-

She's also embarrassed herself by being in her 40s and still acting like a dumb idiot teenager with her tits hanging out of her shirt. Problem is when you get so rich and famous that nobody wants to tell you no and your friends and business associates are all yes men.

I'd pee in her butt

That's funny y'know, 'cos when Britney was at her peak in 99-05, he couldn't stand her and trashed all of her albums.

He said that he thought Janet Jackson was sexy, but Madonna and Lil Kim were too intimidating for him and he didn't like Britney's "jailbait sleaze".

I feel like he just randomly says things
>99-05
>peak
Physically and mentally maybe but she sold more after that suprisingly

Mariah can't possibly have embarrassed herself to the extent Madonna has since the 2000s.