How intelligent do you consider yourself to be? And what is your political standpoint? Pic obviously unrelated...

How intelligent do you consider yourself to be? And what is your political standpoint? Pic obviously unrelated, just wanted your attention.

I don't typically quantify my intelligence, but I identify as a right-libertarian, edging on minarchist.

i'm an incredibly stupid fuck who used to be pretty smart in his teens (late teens). I'm 32 now and turned into an idiot somewhere on the way.
I'm still definitely leaning to the right/libertarian, though.

I' m not really sure, that intelligence is something really measurable, and met quality if not geiuos thoughts from very simple or even stupid people, and I'm constantly disappointed with formally clever guys (e.g. scientists), who eventually think surprisingly primitive and silly. But I have relatively hight IQ, which is not a reliable measurement either. Anarha-feminist.

who is she anyway?

Smartest person I know. Libertarian - right.

The left /right paradigm is polluted by emotional empathy. Intelligence in the left is from those that are wealthy and feel a need to take care of others. Poor lefties are by far the lowest intelligence.

I think it's fair to say I'm pretty intelligent. I'm a left wing socialist/liberal.

I think i am slightly above average I think. Some people told me that they think I am smart. I am leaning to the left.

I have a PhD in Physics and have worked for NASA/JPL off and on for many years

I'm an Atheist and a HUGE Trump Supporter....this pisses off all of my "very intellectual" peers

I don't consider myself intelligent though, just really good at math and take time to learn things as well as take time to form a decision on something so that I fully understand it...

I'd say at least top 5% (theoretical particle physicist as occupation). And I'm almost entirely centrist (ideally I'd be more toward the right as it's economically more pragmatic, but they can't get past their Christian base).

>both physicist

What's the probability on these post being 5 seconds apart lol

I completely disagree, there is a fundamental ignorance of society necessary to justify being right wing. 'Poor' as you say and uneducated is a causal link and if they're left wing it's because of the former, not the latter. *mostly on all of the above.

What a stupid post.

My prediction:

>People will lie about their intelligence, saying they're really smart
>Right wingers will say they're really smart and mature, and circle jerk with other right wingers
>A lefty will try to say to do the same, and then get hounded by rightists for being a pseudo-intellectual

I'm at a 110iq here, mid left libertarian here

Above average IQ at least, lol.
I don't take a political stance. Any smart person should see that all ideologies are flawed.

I disagree.

Poor lefties are trying to help their own situation through voting for parties that help the welfare state and job protection.

Poor right wingers, like those in America, are actually voting against there best interest.

It's only now, with Trump, that being poor and voting right wing is slightly sensible since Trump supports protectionism for some weird fucking reason.

I'm not really that smart when it comes to social constructs(which is why I chose to study economics), but I love capitalism and believe in free rights so I guess I'm a right-libertarian...

- parties are flawed, many ideologies aren't (maybe not perfect but good)

Ok, gimme a perfect one.

U nazi.

719174554 here, I thought that I'd post my political compass, for what it's worth.

A more pure world free of infidels

deus vult my friend

Nothing isn't flawed.

In some cases poor right wing is voting for the benefit of the economy which is indirectly in benefit of them. e.g. 2010 conservatives. However, the debt they promised to get a rid off (created by left wing reckless borrowing supposedly) they tripled through more borrowing

I don't believe current policies are sufficient as certain situations require special attention.
I do not self-identify as a member of any major party.
Others might call me a leftist as there is some semblance of hope (that your average encounter with any random individual is positive) still left in me.
In practice closer to right, ideally closer to left.

for obvious reasons, i'd say average intelligence

i don't have a "political standpoint" because i'm not twelve or a simpleton, so i like to think about things, rather than have a "hurr durr my tribe your tribe" approach to life

When there was a Civil War between left ("red") and right ("white") here in Russia, not-so-big anarchist participation was under slogan "beat the red, until they turn white; beat the white, until they turn red".

Literally said it wasn't perfect...

Political stance is about ideology, not picking a party...

Also, as my follow up to this, I'll tell you (what's probably obvious)--that a hefty majority of academia in the physical sciences is very liberal. The biggest reason? They consistently fund us, whereas the right has cancelled projects even after spending billions on them (though the military spending does sometimes help DoD funding, which is a big portion of theoretical physics, at least).

I'd say average, maybe slightly above average intelligence. I'd consider myself a centrist as I don't think any one ideology has the correct answers for everything, but I lean to the left.

Dumb as a bag of rocks, conservative.

Haven't had a legitimate IQ test since I was younger and my parents wouldn't tell me the exact number from fear of inflating my ego.
somewhere >125

and ideologies are for simpletons and teenagers

Average intelligence? People tell me I'm smart and I do have a 4 year degree so I'm at least not that dumb. I'm mainly towards the left and libertarian? I basically just think we need to care more about our planet and survival as a species and less about hoarding resources and being religious fucktards. We should have space colonies by now but instead we're fighting over some dumb shit that never should have been in the political process now the top position in our government. My only hope is that Trump fucks things up so bad in the next few years that laws are put in place so that people like him are never allowed to run for office again and that heads of departments have to have extensive knowledge of their position (like head of EPA being a scientist and not just some rich fuck) and such.

Why? So if we were all clever, we wouldn't run society in anyway, and all immediately die xD

>Political stance is about ideology, not picking a party...

Exactly this. You don't have to believe everything that the ideology that you associate with propagates. I rather view it as a way for people to get a rough idea of where I stand. To me, it means very little more.

>IQ test
>Legitimate
Top kek

The welfare state has caused wealth to be lost. Middle class is struggling, they take the most burden from taxes.

A person making, say, 50k a year Would be able to pay for all their family expenses +food +health care. That same person after taxes likely now NEEDS food +health benefits.... This scenario is why Trump won. Our country is filled with people who's life has gotten harder.

found the teenager

I've never had a full on IQ test, but I did have a partial for some anxiety and dislexia testing (mostly cognitive reasoning and the shit where you have to remember a bunch of random numbers and words and shit then use them to solve something) and the report concluded it was "at least 127, and would likely be more given further testing".

I'm definitely right wing, though a bit left leaning for some social issues. I guess libertarian

Smartier than all of yous! I vote Obongo evrytim

It's not about any association with anyone else. It's simply an opinion on how the world should work. You can't not have this, you as an individual can not know but someone has to or society doesn't work.

Really get bored when people express a point of view, then attack anyone who disagrees with labels and makes not logical backing for their point.

I'm 17 so I haven't gotten to meet a lot of people with complex minds and different backgrounds. I consider myself smarter than over half the people I encounter.
I grew up with very liberal parents, and I am pretty liberal myself, but I'd like to think I'm good at seeing both sides of whatever issue at hand.
Pic semi-related; I identify with Lisbeth hardcore, being of underestimated intelligence and hating everyone.

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yeah, when you grow up you'll find out that most points of view are retarded and not really worth addressing.

for example, read

Which is largely due to the wealthy not paying their part and instead abusing our labyrinthian tax code's loopholes to pay damn near nothing. Taxing the poor is like squeezing blood from a rock, they get most of that money back anyways as they need it to live. The middle class are the only poor bastards who have the resources to pay, but lack the resources to dodge.

So why vote in a man who openly states he abuses those loopholes and now refuses to release his tax returns? He's the epitome of what's wrong with the system, but the poor and middle class right rally behind him anyways?

I tend to think of things in terms of maturity rather than intelligence.

I think I'm very socially mature. I'm emotionally immature though, but thankfully my social maturity lets me think before I act on those emotions.

That being said, I'm also (officially) autistic, so some things that are "common sense" for others are totally un-obvious to me.

Yeah, they're so rare these days that it's almost mythological.
>inb4 they were never reliable
The SATs aren't a reliable metric for judging value, either, but plenty of institutions judge by them.
I'm not here to relay my intelligence, as it's quality entirely subjective. I'm here to shitpost.

Get ready for the B& wagon bitch

That made no logical connection from one point to another.
You must be a poor lefty

Not a genius, not retarded either.

Buying into the left/ right thing and believing your vote makes a difference are for idiots

I follow a variety of sources on the right and a few on the left. I am adamantly ant feminism and moderately pro trump. I got to an uber liberal school and neighborhood. Hell my history teacher teaches the prejudice+power model for racism, one of the stupidest ideas to come from the left. But I usually have to keep quite as to not stir up trouble.

>believing your vote makes a difference are for idiots

it does at the local level

what

Hillary embodies everything that is wrong US government, and Trump embodies everything wrong with US culture.

Above average probably.

Political standpoint: "Why are you calling me? It's 9 a.m. on a Sunday."

Arguably. You have no proof of it's direct influence as you do not have access to all of the contextual information. You have faith that they (votes) make a difference because they (voting and completion of goals) coincide chronologically.

I know im smarter than average.
Lazy af and still okayish grades in a better uni
Atheist
I would consider myself as a pragmatist. More left than right. As long they reduce the influence of religious institutions and keep the nation going im fine.

Americans make a token, half-assed effort to come out once every four years, toss in a ballot for President, and then bitch and moan about how their votes don't matter if it doesn't go their way. They ignore local elections, city elections, state elections, mid-term elections, etc but because the presidential vote in my non-swing state didn't pan out, fuck it, the whole system sucks and I refuse to partake in it.

I've been told many times I'm highly intelligent. As douchy as it sounds, I don't disagree. I struggle to meet interesting people.

I'm a centrist, though my alignment falls within the typical European spectrum. I'm sure in the US I'd be considered moderately left-wing. Truth be told I'd like to hear your opinions on wether or not I'm mistaken about my political standpoint.

I'll just list a few of my views here:

> I'm completely pro-choice, up to the 16 week mark (cases of malformations or health issues are free of time limit). I also believe men should have the right to state their opposition to the pregnancy and withdraw support up until the 12 week mark.
> I'm against lax immigration policies (Switzerland is in my opinion the country that does it best).
> I'm completely in favor of market regulation aimed at consumer protection (EU's food safety laws are great for the consumer, FDA's stance in food safety is too much "profit first, deal with consequences later").
> I'm in favor of public healthcare, along with a minimal welfare system geared towards ensuring that KIDS growing up won't be hindered in their pursuit of their goals by their parents' financial situation.
> I see no problem with gay marriage and adoption rights.
> I'm completely against anything that brings religion into government. I'm against teaching creationism in schools. I'm against mentions of god in official documents, oaths, and ceremonies. I'm in favor of religious freedom, as long as people keep their religion to themselves. I'm against any sort of infant circumcision, with medical emergencies being the only exception.
> I find PC culture repulsive. There are two genders, and yes, some people may be transgender due to yet undisclosed genetic predispositions or whatever, which is still a simple misalignment within the binary system. Anything beyond that is a psychiatric disorder.

(cont)

Ivy League educated, PhD holder.

Former Democrat, now Republican.
35 years old, polyglot, accomplished both in career and family.

When I think of political stands, well, 21 years ago a Democratic president signed DOMA into law, with full support of his wife, and now former 2017 presidential nominee.

20 years ago, Democrats were willing to say: "marriage is a constitution between a man, and a woman.

Nowadays, democrats can't even agree on what a man (or woman) is.

Our nation is fucking pathetic and we need some conservative values.

SATs are fairly reliable. I've yet to meet a very clever student who averaged less than 600 on each section and yet to meet a student who was not quite good averaging above 700 on each section (from a sample size of maybe 20 relevant scores that I knew, which increases if you add people I knew when I was an undergrad).

This, mostly.
Trump's could be refined to mere capitalism.

Trump proposed solutions to actually get tax money from the top. Tax companies that manufacture outside then move products back. Lower corporate taxes to keep business here. Corporate tax rates can be over 40%.

Most people dont really know how taxes work for Wall Street. Capitol gains tax is a phrase that means nothing to most.

Trump got support from his ability to speak inclusive. "We will Maga". "we have a movement"...... We this, we that.

That's actually a nice way to think of it. I was gonna say in that post that everything Trump once said about closing the tax loopholes rang as hollow as Hillary aping Bernie's talking points about bringing the hammer down on Wall Street.
People genuinely believed the elite will find themselves in a position of power and use it to govern and punish themselves, when they no longer have any real reason to. It's ridiculous.

I can't really quantify my own intelligence at all. I'd like to think I'm above average, but sometimes I can be retarded as well. I was fairly above average in school from age 7 to 16, which led to me never having to study, which then led to me having trouble when I actually needed to study. Compared to most people I know I'd say I'm fairly intelligent though.

Id guess i was slightly above average, and i mostly agree with paleoconservatism but im more left leaning on some shit

The point being that you said any political opinion was for simpletons. Without any opinion on how to run the country, how the fuck would it function?

Not really sure how intelligent I am.

I'm right wing with a touch of alt-right. And no, not hate motivated.
Trump is a godsend, and can help the US get out of the 19 trillion dollars worth of national debt and stop the SJW and political correctness epidemic.
He can also, contrary to popular belief, help the inner city hellholes like Detroit and Cleveland get back on their feet. He just brought in 52k jobs, not even POTUS yet.
It also encourages countries like Sweden to get a lot stricter and harsher on border control, generally enforcing a nationalistic attitude and patriotism in general.

I went and half-assed it twice. Got the same score twice. (1260 iirc) SATs only convey ability/willingness to participate in an established metric within certain parameters. They do not transcribe intelligence.

arrogant faggots thread

No, I'm not. The link was they are both responding to different parts of the referenced comment

This
t. arrogant faggot

there is proof. votes are counted and results posted. local issues, judges, representatives etc impact your life directly

Intelligence is being able to absorb information and apply it. SATs are pretty reliable if you ask me.

Weak bait

I'm highly intelligent, I have an INTP personality.

Capitalist libertarian (true death to big government)

Take a guess at the one I have an issue with xD

Those are some fairly standard moderate liberal views, but I think you've avoided some of the more challenging views in American politics that would identify you as extremist vs moderate vs whatever: How should we approach wealth inequality, especially for minorities? To what level does endemic racism affect the likely outcomes of children of minority status? What price do we pay when we tend toward globalization of our economy, and is it worth it? How do we treat public policy given the major, persisting divide that splits out country socially?

You make minor attempts to hash out opinions (minimal welfare support system), but these things are fairly agreed upon among liberals and moderates (and pretty ineffective). To find where you sit on the liberal spectrum, you'll need to have bigger opinions.

lol fucking retard.

kek
s-standing for nothing takes m-moral courage

>votes are counted
by people who have the ability to lie
>results posted
may or may not be actual results
>local issues, judges, representatives etc impact your life directly
for as long as you abide by the law, yes.

I think the most intelligent people consider themselves stupid

the reason being is that:

- Someone who believes they are truly that smart has a higher chance of striving to learn more

- Likely uses less introspective reasoning, and thus..

- Doesn't improve on bad conclusions

The people who ask a lot of questions and are involved I find are smart, they want to know things. Those who believe they are smart tend to be the retarded fucks.

sorry, rather, "Someone who believes they are truly that smart has a lower chance of striving to learn more"1

I've heard that argument before, just like "grades don't indicate someone's mastery of the subject." And to some point THEORETICALLY, I agree. But after teaching at the university level for almost a decade, I can tell you that the correlation is very strong. Again, I've never known an A student who didn't know their stuff, nor have I encountered a D student who knew what they were talking about. Same idea with SAT scores. Honestly, people who can't bring themselves to care about such an important test will probably struggle to bring themselves to care about anything academic, and so are effectively not very intelligent academically.

(contd)

> I'm against any sort of affirmative action quotas, be them gender or race based. As I mentioned previously, I'm in favor of ensuring every kid growing up is given access to very good education, nothing more.
> I'm against having different fitness requirements for men and women in professions that have them.
> I'm in favor of treating the drug problem as a public health problem, that is, people in possession of small doses should be directed to rehab treatment and social counseling instead of prison, police should focus entirely on dealers and gangs.
> I'm completely in favor of net neutrality. Internet must become classified as an utility.
> I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana.
> I'm in favor of prohibiting all smoking in enclosed public spaces and transport, as well as in the vicinity of schools and hospitals.
> I'm against having juries of random citizens be the deciding factor in trials. Facts are facts, and the law is the law, this practice of treating trials as an appeal to juror's emotions is retarded. Have three judges analyze the case and dispense verdict based on their deep understanding of the law. Appeals should not be so financially demanding.
> I believe political campaigns should rely entirely on public funding. Every candidate receives the same amount of funding. No donations. Makes no sense for people and corporations to start voting with their wallets before election day. One vote per person. Less attack ads, more debates.

That's all I can think of for now.

No, standing from nothing takes cowardice. Saying "oh well everyone is wrong anyways, so I don't have an opinion" tells me you are just lazy or incompetent.

agreeing with your views doesn't make someone random's opinion valid that you're smart, silly self-centered fagfuck

the fact that you think you're smart because of your subjective opinions on politics shows you're actually a stupid fuck

SATs require you to be willing and able to convey your intelligence in order to become a reliable metric.
Half of these requisites were not met when I took the SATs, therefore, it is posiible that SATs are not an accurate metric for intelligence.
SATs are to intelligence as speaking is to vocal ability.
The lack or inefficiency of one does not disprove the other.

Not even American

Dude you are fucking ignorant. Go get some non-college education.

I try not to say that I'm intelligent or whatever because it's cringy as fuck. All I have to quantify it is I have a 150 iq.

As far as politics, I am leftish. I hate American Democrats and PC culture. I guess I'm left-libertarian. I'd call myself socialist, but to most people, that implies a level of authoritarian, not libertarian. I'm much more socially left, but economically I'm closer to centrist.

Which is why I specifically said Americans. If you're from anywhere else, I can't speak for your democratic system's existence, let alone its integrity.

These arguments are dumb. People will go to such lengths to deceive themselves into thinking they're great. The SAT measures intelligence the same way a bench press measures strength. Sure, it's possible by some freak nature that the strongest man alive doesn't get up 225 lbs (maybe he's having a stroke or is ridiculously ill), but strong people tend to get it up easily and weak people can't. Self-delusion game so strong

so what are you then? a nihilist?

Maybe I'm retarded after all. I misunderstood

Hes an idiot with too many opinions

>Those arguments are dumb
>followed by legitimate scenarios in which someone with ability could or would not properly properly express that ability at that time
You've made an analogous argument for me while calling it dumb.
Btw, that 1260 was for two sections; I'm not a retard with delusions.
You're clearly retarded, though.

This, although I prefer faggot.